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  • Don't love it but don't hate it either. His offense is uninspiring but will have to see who he chooses for assistants. Players seem to like him at least.

    McDaniels seemed overhyped as other teams didn't even interview him, probably wanted more control.

    @bbedward said:

    Don't love it but don't hate it either. His offense is uninspiring but will have to see who he chooses for assistants.

    Absolutely... who Stef attracts to his staff is the first real sign of his worth.

    @calfoxwc said:

    well, I bought into the hype with the last two failure hc's...

    So you are the one who bought into Hue...

  • Well all excuses are gone for the Analytics Boys. They got their coach, they'll have one of their own as GM, and you have to think DePodesta will stay onboard now since he's gotten his way. Can't blame Hue for backstabbing Sashi anymore, can't blame Dorsey for ignoring DePodesta. 

    They have the entire team lined up under "THE PROCESS: PART DEUX". No more mis-matched marriages. No more square pegs going into round holes. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Well all excuses are gone for the Analytics Boys.

    We were making excuses???

    Not to mention it's not as if your "football guys" nailed it...

  • So playoffs next year and the Super Bowl the year after that.

    Or

    L Ron Hubbard is the next man up. 

    WSS

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Well all excuses are gone for the Analytics Boys.

    We were making excuses???

    Not to mention it's not as if your "football guys" nailed it...

    @tour2ma said:

    We were making excuses???

    Not to mention it's not as if your "football guys" nailed it...

    Jesus, you have gone compete Gipper when it comes to these guys. 

    Congrats. 

    And the "Analytics Boys" comments were referring to the front office guys affiliated with Sashi, DePodesta, et al, not you. 

  • https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/06/28/nfl-analytics-front-office-old-school-approach-draft-game-planning-charting

    Of course when every Army has the Gatling gun the advantage is moot. We will see.

    WSS

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Well all excuses are gone for the Analytics Boys.

    We were making excuses???

    Not to mention it's not as if your "football guys" nailed it...

    @tour2ma said:

    We were making excuses???

    Not to mention it's not as if your "football guys" nailed it...

    Dorse did a damn sight better than the Huebatross and Sashimi. I believe even Brown was surprised that the extent his teardown resulted in..   

  • @tour2ma said:

    We were making excuses???

    Not to mention it's not as if your "football guys" nailed it...

    Dorse did a damn sight better than the Huebatross and Sashimi. I believe even Brown was surprised that the extent his teardown resulted in..   

    @hoorta said:

    Dorse did a damn sight better than the Huebatross and Sashimi. I believe even Browns was surprised that the extent his teardown resulted in..   

    Don't bother, hoorta.

    Tour is in complete Gipper-mode when it comes to THE PROCESS braintrust. You aren't getting him to admit any failing from them, ever. 

    Oh sure, he'll try to do a false equivalency and say, for example, that I prayed at the alter that was John Dorsey, when I could show time after time I questioned his moves. No such thing exists for Tour and THE PROCESS. 

  • I don"t have any issue with the analytic crowd, and every front office and coach in 2020 uses developed metrics and grading to some extent.

    Where I take issue with is the lack of affirmation, the circular logic of sorts that we saw from the previous over use of it.  Especially in regards to the draft and personnel.  Sure it worked with mid rounds like Schob.    Numbers should back up film. Film should back up numbers. I believe my very first comments on Corey Coleman were,  "this kid owes Art Briles his signing bonus".  Go search and double check that for me.    But your first picks in those early rounds have to be contributors, they HAVE to hit for the sake of your team.    The film on CC and Ogbah didn't back up the grades.   

    The lack of that recognition is what concerns me.  Again, their God cannot be questioned.   When applied with a certain... meta cognition, those advanced metrics and data collection can be quite helpful to any team.

  • https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/browns-stuck-to-their-process-in-choosing-kevin-stefanski-as-new-head-coach.html

    Good article about 'the process' that lead to DePodesta selecting Stefanski as the Browns 19th head coach. 

  • We got my guy!

    Kevin Stefanski, it's about to be on! 

  • I don"t have any issue with the analytic crowd, and every front office and coach in 2020 uses developed metrics and grading to some extent.

    Where I take issue with is the lack of affirmation, the circular logic of sorts that we saw from the previous over use of it.  Especially in regards to the draft and personnel.  Sure it worked with mid rounds like Schob.    Numbers should back up film. Film should back up numbers. I believe my very first comments on Corey Coleman were,  "this kid owes Art Briles his signing bonus".  Go search and double check that for me.    But your first picks in those early rounds have to be contributors, they HAVE to hit for the sake of your team.    The film on CC and Ogbah didn't back up the grades.   

    The lack of that recognition is what concerns me.  Again, their God cannot be questioned.   When applied with a certain... meta cognition, those advanced metrics and data collection can be quite helpful to any team.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I don"t have any issue with the analytic crowd, and every front office and coach in 2020 uses developed metrics and grading to some extent.

    Where I take issue with is the lack of affirmation, the circular logic of sorts that we saw from the previous over use of it.  Especially in regards to the draft and personnel.  Sure it worked with mid rounds like Schob.    Numbers should back up film. Film should back up numbers. I believe my very first comments on Corey Coleman were,  "this kid owes Art Briles his signing bonus".  Go search and double check that for me.    But your first picks in those early rounds have to be contributors, they HAVE to hit for the sake of your team.    The film on CC and Ogbah didn't back up the grades.   

    The lack of that recognition is what concerns me.  Again, their God cannot be questioned.   When applied with a certain... meta cognition, those advanced metrics and data collection can be quite helpful to any team.

    Nailed it.

    I'm not of the "football guys good, analytics guys nerds" mindset. I said it back when Sashi was fired, this isn't personal for me, like it seems to be for so many who are ardently "FOOTBALL GUYS" or "ANALYTIC GUYS". I think I mentioned that I didn't care if the Browns were run by a paraplegic black lesbian ex-NHL coach who used analytics and prayed to a statue of Vince Lombardi as long as that person was proficient at making the Browns a winning NFL team.

    Why I didn't care for the Sashi/DePodesta/Berry 'THE PROCESS DREAM TEAM' was that they weren't very good at it.  

  • We got my guy!

    Kevin Stefanski, it's about to be on! 

    @poeticg said:

    We got my guy!

    Kevin Stefanski, it's about to be on! 

    I remember you mentioning that you wanted this guy a while ago, but you didn't say why.

    So, why? 

  • Oh wow great hire. Yawning another Polack.

    @one-post said:

    Oh wow great hire. Yawning another Polack.

    Boston Mills and Brandywine?   Chudzin and Stefan.   A couple  of ski slopes?   

  • @hoorta said:

    Not buying the hype Cal. With respects to The Who- "meet the new coach, same as the old coach- we won't get fooled again."   Color me unexcited. As the say in Missouri- SHOW ME. It can start by winning your opener, that we haven't done in almost forever. That's one they missed on in the ESPN blurb- longest opening day losing streak. Besides Division Title, playoff appearance, and winning record- all league worsts.  

    well, I bought into the hype with the last two failure hc's...so third time is the charm. Personally, I put a lot of stock in who said also, it's a "fantastic" hire in the video. that means serious stuff, imho.

    This time, I'm seeing that they learned their lesson. Stephanski is no "nice guy fuddy duddy nincampoop gonna fail" guy. you betcha. and that is with a UDFA at ROG and a terrific RT that got hurt in the playoff game.

    @calfoxwc said:

    well, I bought into the hype with the last two failure hc's...so third time is the charm. Personally, I put a lot of stock in who said also, it's a "fantastic" hire in the video. that means serious stuff, imho.

    This time, I'm seeing that they learned their lesson. Stephanski is no "nice guy fuddy duddy nincampoop gonna fail" guy. you betcha. and that is with a UDFA at ROG and a terrific RT that got hurt in the playoff game.

    Is it Stephanski, or Stefanski?  Or Stevenski. 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    I hope we don’t see anymore draw plays on 4th and 9.

    Or a 25 yard slant play on 3rd and 1.

    Just properly use the weapons we have:

    Beckham 

    Landry

    Chubb 

    Hunt 

    80-90% of your touches spread out amongst these 4.

    and please when we need a play it’s not time outthink the defense and hit Harris on a skinny post 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Just properly use the weapons we have:

    Beckham 

    Landry

    Chubb 

    Hunt 

    80-90% of your touches spread out amongst these 4.

    and please when we need a play it’s not time outthink the defense and hit Harris on a skinny post 

    And can he incorporate the still seeminly talented Njoku into the scheme? 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    well, I bought into the hype with the last two failure hc's...so third time is the charm. Personally, I put a lot of stock in who said also, it's a "fantastic" hire in the video. that means serious stuff, imho.

    This time, I'm seeing that they learned their lesson. Stephanski is no "nice guy fuddy duddy nincampoop gonna fail" guy. you betcha. and that is with a UDFA at ROG and a terrific RT that got hurt in the playoff game.

    Is it Stephanski, or Stefanski?  Or Stevenski. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Is it Stephanski, or Stefanski?  Or Stevenski. 

    I think it's pronounced stank-ass-key

  • the dysfunction we have dealt with all these years has come to a end

    @atom said:

    the dysfunction we have dealt with all these years has come to a end

    I will reserve judgment on that.  Call me in a year. 

  • Whoop De Doo

  • @tour2ma said:

    We were making excuses???

    Not to mention it's not as if your "football guys" nailed it...

    Jesus, you have gone compete Gipper when it comes to these guys. 

    Congrats. 

    And the "Analytics Boys" comments were referring to the front office guys affiliated with Sashi, DePodesta, et al, not you. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Jesus, you have gone compete Gipper when it comes to these guys. 

    No....because my mind has always been completely open about our brain trust. 

    Congrats. 

    Unwarranted.

    And the "Analytics Boys" comments were referring to the front office guys affiliated with Sashi, DePodesta, et al, not you. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    We were making excuses???

    Not to mention it's not as if your "football guys" nailed it...

    Jesus, you have gone compete Gipper when it comes to these guys. 

    Congrats. 

    And the "Analytics Boys" comments were referring to the front office guys affiliated with Sashi, DePodesta, et al, not you. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Jesus, you have gone compete Gipper when it comes to these guys.  Congrats. 

    And the "Analytics Boys" comments were referring to the front office guys affiliated with Sashi, DePodesta, et al, not you. 

    First... no reason to start hitting below the belt...

    Second... I know who you were referring to, but since my Boyz aren't here to defend themselves I thought I'd point out a much longer, traditional track record that hasn't exactly panned out.