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  • Just heard that it wouldn’t be surprising if Stefanski keeps Wilks, guess he was the DC he would have brought on last year if he had gotten the job.

    not sure if I like that or not. He had a couple really good schemed games (Baltimore @ Balt. was a great defense) but then he got beat by Duck and some Denver QB that hadn’t taken a snap. I guess he can’t run on the field and tackle and cover players himself though. 
     

    might be nice to keep him on... No massive changes needed. 
     

    meh. Whateves 

    Canton MikeC The GipperT 2 Replies
  • hx214H hx214

    Just heard that it wouldn’t be surprising if Stefanski keeps Wilks, guess he was the DC he would have brought on last year if he had gotten the job.

    not sure if I like that or not. He had a couple really good schemed games (Baltimore @ Balt. was a great defense) but then he got beat by Duck and some Denver QB that hadn’t taken a snap. I guess he can’t run on the field and tackle and cover players himself though. 
     

    might be nice to keep him on... No massive changes needed. 
     

    meh. Whateves 

    @hx214 said:

    Just heard that it wouldn’t be surprising if Stefanski keeps Wilks, guess he was the DC he would have brought on last year if he had gotten the job.

    not sure if I like that or not. He had a couple really good schemed games (Baltimore @ Balt. was a great defense) but then he got beat by Duck and some Denver QB that hadn’t taken a snap. I guess he can’t run on the field and tackle and cover players himself though. 
     

    might be nice to keep him on... No massive changes needed. 
     

    meh. Whateves 

    1) I hope not!

    2) Wilks was the Coach & I saw nothing but regression. Our tackling is some of the worst I have ever seen & I expect players to be coached UP! Ours were not.

    Obviously, I'm no fan of Wilks, but...

    Canton Mike

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
  • hx214H hx214

    Just heard that it wouldn’t be surprising if Stefanski keeps Wilks, guess he was the DC he would have brought on last year if he had gotten the job.

    not sure if I like that or not. He had a couple really good schemed games (Baltimore @ Balt. was a great defense) but then he got beat by Duck and some Denver QB that hadn’t taken a snap. I guess he can’t run on the field and tackle and cover players himself though. 
     

    might be nice to keep him on... No massive changes needed. 
     

    meh. Whateves 

    @hx214 said:

    Just heard that it wouldn’t be surprising if Stefanski keeps Wilks, guess he was the DC he would have brought on last year if he had gotten the job.

    not sure if I like that or not. He had a couple really good schemed games (Baltimore @ Balt. was a great defense) but then he got beat by Duck and some Denver QB that hadn’t taken a snap. I guess he can’t run on the field and tackle and cover players himself though. 
     

    might be nice to keep him on... No massive changes needed. 
     

    meh. Whateves 

    He had absolutely NO answer after   Garrett got suspended.  Failed to adapt....and as someone said:   tackling was atrocious. 

    Hard pass. 

  • They need to get Byron leftwitch for oc

    For dc ?

  • B Babernakle

    They need to get Byron leftwitch for oc

    For dc ?

    @babernakle said:

    They need to get Byron leftwitch for oc

    For dc ?

    Leftwich is currently  Tampa's OC.   First time OC just this past year.   No lateral moves

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  • Kubiac OC

    Schwartz DC

    Jimmy sell the team

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @babernakle said:

    They need to get Byron leftwitch for oc

    For dc ?

    Leftwich is currently  Tampa's OC.   First time OC just this past year.   No lateral moves

    @the-gipper said:

    Leftwich is currently  Tampa's OC.   First time OC just this past year.   No lateral moves

    Why not offer him the job he might take it 

    Dutch OvenD The GipperT 2 Replies
  • B Babernakle

    @the-gipper said:

    Leftwich is currently  Tampa's OC.   First time OC just this past year.   No lateral moves

    Why not offer him the job he might take it 

    @babernakle said:

    Why not offer him the job he might take it 

    He can't.

    That's what "No lateral moves" means. 

  • https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kevin-stefanskis-browns-coaching-staff-in-2020-whos-in-whos-out-and-who-might-be-on-the-way-to-cleveland/

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  • Either The team quit on Wilks or his scheme is awful or both.  There was time before Christmas I thought he would be the fall guy and get axed and Freddie would stay on for one year.

    i think there is a .0001% chance that Wilks is in Cleveland 

    Canton MikeC T 2 Replies

  • Man.... I don’t know if Wilks is all that bad.

    His all pro DE center piece of his defense gets bounced. The only other pass rusher on the other side of the ball (Vernon) can’t stay on the field, Your GM traded away any DE depth you had for a worthless safety and a 4th round pick leaving you with no names,  half the games Ward played this year he looked like he couldn’t cover a JV WR, Redwine looked lost out there at times....

    Not going to say I’ll be upset if they move on, but I’ll take Wilks defense over Ray Horton or O’Neil’s

    bjh2130B 1 Reply
  • B Babernakle

    @the-gipper said:

    Leftwich is currently  Tampa's OC.   First time OC just this past year.   No lateral moves

    Why not offer him the job he might take it 

    @babernakle said:

    Why not offer him the job he might take it 

    He could if he is not under contract 

  • S SdBacker80

    Either The team quit on Wilks or his scheme is awful or both.  There was time before Christmas I thought he would be the fall guy and get axed and Freddie would stay on for one year.

    i think there is a .0001% chance that Wilks is in Cleveland 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Either The team quit on Wilks or his scheme is awful or both.  There was time before Christmas I thought he would be the fall guy and get axed and Freddie would stay on for one year.

    i think there is a .0001% chance that Wilks is in Cleveland 

    I hate to even THINK it, but I have an awful feeling that Wilks may be retained. ?

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • Kubiak's son could be the QB coach ......... Mike McDaniels as OC  .... if true we did end up hiring McDaniels

  • DiFillipo is available.  Just parted ways with Jags.

  • George Paton is being interviewed for OC.    Seriously,  George Paton.

    The players damned well better listen to him;

  • This George Paton  (one t)  is currently asst. GM for the Vikings.   He and Stefanski have worked together for the Vikings for 13 years.

    If this is a case of the coach picking the GM,   then that would make some sense. 

  • Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20

    "I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."

    Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20

    "I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview." 

    Tour2maT The GipperT 2 Replies
  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20

    "I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."

    Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20

    "I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview." 

    @dutch-oven said:

    "I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."

    Fool me once... etc., etc.

    @dutch-oven said:

    "I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview." 

    Was that the case in KC as well? 🙂

    I guess "mutual decision to part ways" doesn't mean what it used to...

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20

    "I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."

    Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20

    "I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview." 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20

    "I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."

    Again....goes back to who is interviewing who?  Are the Browns interviewing  him for GM, or is he interviewing them for whether or not he would want to work here again.   If he has multiple options, as you seem to indicate, I would say it is the latter.

    Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20

    "I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview." 

    Well, Maybe both of the above reports have a lot to do with the George Paton consideration. While maybe few others may want to come here, Paton may want to continue working with his long time colleague, Stefanski. 

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