If You Think The Shit Already Hit the Fans....
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Just wait until one of the most important/influential coaches to Stefanski gets hired as our next Offensive Coordinator. His name? Peppermint Patty Shurmur.
Remember Shurmur facing 4th and 1 with a 2 score deficit in the 4th quarter at the Indy 38 yard line against the 31st ranked defense? Shurmur decided our best option was to punt the football, which went past the end zone for a touch back netting us only 18 yards. Indy thanked us for the forfeit keeping the ball for the next 6-8 minutes while everyone on the Cleveland Browns got the message from Shurmur it was okay to quit like he did that day. My dad, who was dying of cancer at the time (just 1 day before Hospice), said I can't believe this storied franchise would ever hire such a F---ing pussy. Even worse (and just like with Ray Horton), here comes the encore we can gag on...
I know many think Kubiak will be the guy (OC) but he made it clear he didn't have the time for an OC gig in Minnesota (so he just played Lifeguard to the OC).
You almost have to try to suck this bad as an ownership. I feel bad for Stefanski because he didn't hire himself and he's probably a nice guy. It was just the same criteria-free hiring process that has kept this sentenced to "It's only Cleveland." If the owner doesn't care while he's making the most money of his life - why should the league care if his franchise wins or loses?
Remember Shurmur facing 4th and 1 with a 2 score deficit in the 4th quarter at the Indy 38 yard line against the 31st ranked defense? Shurmur decided our best option was to punt the football, which went past the end zone for a touch back netting us only 18 yards. Indy thanked us for the forfeit keeping the ball for the next 6-8 minutes while everyone on the Cleveland Browns got the message from Shurmur it was okay to quit like he did that day. My dad, who was dying of cancer at the time (just 1 day before Hospice), said I can't believe this storied franchise would ever hire such a F---ing pussy. Even worse (and just like with Ray Horton), here comes the encore we can gag on...
I remember that, and also remember him ruining our Christmas Eve in Ratbird land, allowing the 1st half clock run out with a timeout and the Seneca Wallace-led Browns on the 5 yard line.
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Just wait until one of the most important/influential coaches to Stefanski gets hired as our next Offensive Coordinator. His name? Peppermint Patty Shurmur.
Remember Shurmur facing 4th and 1 with a 2 score deficit in the 4th quarter at the Indy 38 yard line against the 31st ranked defense? Shurmur decided our best option was to punt the football, which went past the end zone for a touch back netting us only 18 yards. Indy thanked us for the forfeit keeping the ball for the next 6-8 minutes while everyone on the Cleveland Browns got the message from Shurmur it was okay to quit like he did that day. My dad, who was dying of cancer at the time (just 1 day before Hospice), said I can't believe this storied franchise would ever hire such a F---ing pussy. Even worse (and just like with Ray Horton), here comes the encore we can gag on...
I know many think Kubiak will be the guy (OC) but he made it clear he didn't have the time for an OC gig in Minnesota (so he just played Lifeguard to the OC).
You almost have to try to suck this bad as an ownership. I feel bad for Stefanski because he didn't hire himself and he's probably a nice guy. It was just the same criteria-free hiring process that has kept this sentenced to "It's only Cleveland." If the owner doesn't care while he's making the most money of his life - why should the league care if his franchise wins or loses?
You almost have to try to suck this bad as an ownership. I feel bad for Stefanski because he didn't hire himself and he's probably a nice guy.
I understand the thinking that this is just another Kitchens hire except it'll be DePodesta going down with the ship if it sinks. BUT, who know if the egg beater splattered it straight this time. We shall find out as time goes by. Maybe he'll be good, maybe great, maybe he's in over his head. - We can take a poll.....but we'll still have to wait and see.
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Aren’t basically all of them of late?
Yep. Mods could definitely benefit by closing some threads.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
No one knows how this is going to turn out, as I said on this board before Hue's hire was popular and not many people opposed Kitchens. In fact the only hire that lived up to it's hype was Butch Davis so let's see how this plays out.
No one knows how this is going to turn out, as I said on this board before Hue's hire was popular and not many people opposed Kitchens. In fact the only hire that lived up to it's hype was Butch Davis so let's see how this plays out.
Don't know, we'll see?
Yep. Mods could definitely benefit by closing some threads.
Hey, I was too busy watching the KC and Green Bay games...
But Sure-loss probably wasn't coming back to NE Ohio regardless....
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Yep. Mods could definitely benefit by closing some threads.
Sorry for venting my frustration. I've always tried been a rose colored glasses guy almost to a fault; but this owner has hired 7 Head Coaches since 2012 and he's still refusing to GET what's wrong. I sincerely hope I'm wrong about the our new Scapegoat, I mean Head Coach. Seems like a nice hard working guy with great intentions coming to a business where they're still trying to get organized at getting organized since 2012. Maybe some day someone they will actually establish some hiring criteria. Until then, it would be nice if our ownership finally hired the right guy even if by accident.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Remember Shurmur facing 4th and 1 with a 2 score deficit in the 4th quarter at the Indy 38 yard line against the 31st ranked defense? Shurmur decided our best option was to punt the football
Here's the thing, Flugs... an OC doesn't make those decisions.
Patsy has failed twice as a HC, but each time he earned the opportunity by producing as an OC. We know it was not due to his electric personality...
The experience he has had as an HC can be valuable to a first time HC.... organizing practices and other behind-the-scenes stuff.
Last Stef knows Pat from their time together in MN. So if he hires him he knows their philosophies align and they can work together. That's pretty important... especially for a first-time HC.
Here's the thing, Flugs... an OC doesn't make those decisions.
Patsy has failed twice as a HC, but each time he earned the opportunity by producing as an OC. We know it was not due to his electric personality...
The experience he has had as an HC can be valuable to a first time HC.... organizing practices and other behind-the-scenes stuff.
Last Stef knows Pat from their time together in MN. So if he hires him he knows their philosophies align and they can work together. That's pretty important... especially for a first-time HC.
Good points Tour! That said he was a good OC before he came to Cleveland and took on being a HC and OC. He was awful here. We've hired a lot of Coordinators from better organizations that came here for an absolute culture shock nightmare. It's humbled and tarnished careers of some pretty well respected guys (at least outside of Cleveland).
I'm playing pin the tail on the donkey. Only in this scenario the donkey is wearing the blindfolds. And the donkey is Jimmy...
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Yep. Mods could definitely benefit by closing some threads.
Sorry for venting my frustration. I've always tried been a rose colored glasses guy almost to a fault; but this owner has hired 7 Head Coaches since 2012 and he's still refusing to GET what's wrong. I sincerely hope I'm wrong about the our new Scapegoat, I mean Head Coach. Seems like a nice hard working guy with great intentions coming to a business where they're still trying to get organized at getting organized since 2012. Maybe some day someone they will actually establish some hiring criteria. Until then, it would be nice if our ownership finally hired the right guy even if by accident.
Sorry for venting my frustration. I've always tried been a rose colored glasses guy almost to a fault; but this owner has hired 7 Head Coaches since 2012 and he's still refusing to GET what's wrong. I sincerely hope I'm wrong about the our new Scapegoat, I mean Head Coach. Seems like a nice hard working guy with great intentions coming to a business where they're still trying to get organized at getting organized since 2012. Maybe some day someone they will actually establish some hiring criteria. Until then, it would be nice if our ownership finally hired the right guy even if by accident.
You're good, dude. I wasn't singling you out or anything, I was just making the general observation that since we know who the coach is now, the mods can shut down the 50 other threads going simultaneously about the different options.
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