Haslams, please sell the Browns ....... cleveland .com
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Something that has been brought up here before in various threads.
Haslams, please sell the Browns
Posted Jan 02, 2020By Other VoicesJimmy and Dee Haslam, please sell the Browns! You have shown and continue to show that you are not capable of running an NFL franchise, one that myself and many other fans support with unwavering loyalty. You can’t or won’t get out of your own way. I can’t believe that you were minority owners of the Steelers and didn’t learn a darn thing. Please sell the team for the sake of the fans.-
Dave Skinner,
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The Browns should fire Jimmy Haslam
Updated Jan 08, 2020;Posted Jan 08, 2020189. 284 sharesBy Other VoicesThe guy the Cleveland Browns should fire is team owner Jimmy Haslam. He has shown he has no clue about running a franchise. Every decision he makes quickly ends up wrong. And you’ll notice that the best coaching hires have already happened without the Browns getting any of them (“Can the Browns afford to be patient with their head coach search when the Redskins and Cowboys moved quickly?" cleveland.com, Jan. 6).
This is partly because the owner doesn’t know what he’s doing and can’t make up his mind, and partly because he has made Cleveland an undesirable place to be a coach or general manager. No one wants to be a one-and-done hire by a know-nothing owner.
Don Lannoch,
Solon
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Once I started digging into Jim Haslam's business dealings I became more unsure of his ability to run an NFL franchise.
He's had enough time to try and get it right -but- how do you get him to sell before the reluctant NFL owners have to step in and act before he totally ruins the BROWNS franchise ?
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
MHO? This is their last chance to "get it right".
I wish, but that is by NO means the case. Certainly the fans can't force him to sell. The league certainly will not. This is not like Modell who was about to have his franchised foreclosed on, even after being bailed out once by the Baltimore Bribe. JH still operates in a fiscally profitable manner. And the league does not care that he does not win. The league always wants a few patsy teams as long as they make money. The Bidwills have owned the Cardinals for generations. Now that he has reduced duties at Pilot after selling, Jimmy and Dee will be spending their time dealing with their sports franchises, Browns, Columbus Crew. And it seems clear that they want this team for posterity....to hand down to their kids:
They have three adult children, James Bagwell Haslam (adopted 2016), Whitney Haslam Johnson, and Cynthia Haslam Arnholt and five grandchildren.
Further evidenced by this list of their front office on their website:
- Dee Haslam Owner
- Jimmy Haslam Owner
- JW Johnson Executive Vice President, Owner (son-in-law)
- Whitney Haslam Johnson Owner
- Paul DePodesta Chief Strategy Officer
Curious about this adoption of James....an adult?
And notice who is the first person listed right after the family
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Once I started digging into Jim Haslam's business dealings I became more unsure of his ability to run an NFL franchise.
He's had enough time to try and get it right -but- how do you get him to sell before the reluctant NFL owners have to step in and act before he totally ruins the BROWNS franchise ?
Once I started digging into Jim Haslam's business dealings I became more unsure of his ability to run an NFL franchise.
He's had enough time to try and get it right -but- how do you get him to sell before the reluctant NFL owners have to step in and act before he totally ruins the BROWNS franchise ?
Dream on....see my post above. As long as things are fiscally responsible that will never happen. The only people they have ditched caused ruinous financial consequences to their team: Kiam and Modell. The NFL does NOT consider continual on field losing to be a detriment to franchise operation. 50% of each game involves someone who lost that game. So they figure, someone has to lose, why not the Browns.
If this league does not care about franchises moving out of St. Louis, Oakland..and any number of any other cities that have had loyal fan bases for more money....why would they give a rats ass about a fan base that the worst thing that happens to them is that they lose a lot.
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MHO? This is their last chance to "get it right".
I wish, but that is by NO means the case. Certainly the fans can't force him to sell. The league certainly will not. This is not like Modell who was about to have his franchised foreclosed on, even after being bailed out once by the Baltimore Bribe. JH still operates in a fiscally profitable manner. And the league does not care that he does not win. The league always wants a few patsy teams as long as they make money. The Bidwills have owned the Cardinals for generations. Now that he has reduced duties at Pilot after selling, Jimmy and Dee will be spending their time dealing with their sports franchises, Browns, Columbus Crew. And it seems clear that they want this team for posterity....to hand down to their kids:
They have three adult children, James Bagwell Haslam (adopted 2016), Whitney Haslam Johnson, and Cynthia Haslam Arnholt and five grandchildren.
Further evidenced by this list of their front office on their website:
- Dee Haslam Owner
- Jimmy Haslam Owner
- JW Johnson Executive Vice President, Owner (son-in-law)
- Whitney Haslam Johnson Owner
- Paul DePodesta Chief Strategy Officer
Curious about this adoption of James....an adult?
And notice who is the first person listed right after the family
Further evidenced by this list of their front office on their website:
- Dee Haslam Owner
- Jimmy Haslam Owner
- JW Johnson Executive Vice President, Owner (son-in-law)
- Whitney Haslam Johnson Owner
- Paul DePodesta Chief Strategy Officer
Curious about this adoption of James....an adult?
And notice who is the first person listed right after the family
Oh God l. No way to run a McDonald's burger joint much less a huge NFL professional football team.
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Haslam’s “poor ownership decisions” has set this roster up full of young and talented players.
It is now a matter of filling in the missing pieces and having a coach that knows how to win some football games.
Baker, Chubb, Landry, OBJ, Myles, Ward, etc.The future is bright. We’re just taking the scenic route with some detours on it..
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Once I started digging into Jim Haslam's business dealings I became more unsure of his ability to run an NFL franchise.
He's had enough time to try and get it right -but- how do you get him to sell before the reluctant NFL owners have to step in and act before he totally ruins the BROWNS franchise ?
Dream on....see my post above. As long as things are fiscally responsible that will never happen. The only people they have ditched caused ruinous financial consequences to their team: Kiam and Modell. The NFL does NOT consider continual on field losing to be a detriment to franchise operation. 50% of each game involves someone who lost that game. So they figure, someone has to lose, why not the Browns.
If this league does not care about franchises moving out of St. Louis, Oakland..and any number of any other cities that have had loyal fan bases for more money....why would they give a rats ass about a fan base that the worst thing that happens to them is that they lose a lot.
Dream on....see my post above. As long as things are fiscally responsible that will never happen. The only people they have ditched caused ruinous financial consequences to their team: Kiam and Modell. The NFL does NOT consider continual on field losing to be a detriment to franchise operation. 50% of each game involves someone who lost that game. So they figure, someone has to lose, why not the Browns.
If this league does not care about franchises moving out of St. Louis, Oakland..and any number of any other cities that have had loyal fan bases for more money....why would they give a rats ass about a fan base that the worst thing that happens to them is that they lose a lot.
It's just a big mess and the BROWNS team, fans and anyone else who is concerned is going to suffer from it.
No easy outs or answers.
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Haslam’s “poor ownership decisions” has set this roster up full of young and talented players.
It is now a matter of filling in the missing pieces and having a coach that knows how to win some football games.
Baker, Chubb, Landry, OBJ, Myles, Ward, etc.The future is bright. We’re just taking the scenic route with some detours on it..
Haslam’s “poor ownership decisions” has set this roster up full of young and talented players.
It is now a matter of filling in the missing pieces and having a coach that knows how to win some football games.
Baker, Chubb, Landry, OBJ, Myles, Ward, etc.The future is bright. We’re just taking the scenic route with some detours on it..
That's the ironic part they had a real shot in 2019 for a winning season -but- the ownership and management of the team is "strange".
Hopefully they can get football people to run the team and pull out before another losing season.
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Once I started digging into Jim Haslam's business dealings I became more unsure of his ability to run an NFL franchise.
He's had enough time to try and get it right -but- how do you get him to sell before the reluctant NFL owners have to step in and act before he totally ruins the BROWNS franchise ?
how do you get him to sell before the reluctant NFL owners have to step in and act before he totally ruins the BROWNS franchise ?
1-31. Too late.
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And to think only 6 short years ago Haslam was a genius in certain eyes for picking Manziel.... ?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And to think only 6 short years ago Haslam was a genius in certain eyes for picking Manziel.... ?
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The Browns should fire Jimmy Haslam
Updated Jan 08, 2020;Posted Jan 08, 2020189. 284 sharesBy Other VoicesThe guy the Cleveland Browns should fire is team owner Jimmy Haslam. He has shown he has no clue about running a franchise. Every decision he makes quickly ends up wrong. And you’ll notice that the best coaching hires have already happened without the Browns getting any of them (“Can the Browns afford to be patient with their head coach search when the Redskins and Cowboys moved quickly?" cleveland.com, Jan. 6).
This is partly because the owner doesn’t know what he’s doing and can’t make up his mind, and partly because he has made Cleveland an undesirable place to be a coach or general manager. No one wants to be a one-and-done hire by a know-nothing owner.
Don Lannoch,
Solon
The Browns should fire Jimmy Haslam
Updated Jan 08, 2020;Posted Jan 08, 2020189. 284 sharesBy Other VoicesThe guy the Cleveland Browns should fire is team owner Jimmy Haslam. He has shown he has no clue about running a franchise. Every decision he makes quickly ends up wrong. And you’ll notice that the best coaching hires have already happened without the Browns getting any of them (“Can the Browns afford to be patient with their head coach search when the Redskins and Cowboys moved quickly?" cleveland.com, Jan. 6).
This is partly because the owner doesn’t know what he’s doing and can’t make up his mind, and partly because he has made Cleveland an undesirable place to be a coach or general manager. No one wants to be a one-and-done hire by a know-nothing owner.
Don Lannoch,
Solon
yip, we are fucked once again...didn't we have another coach a few yrs back with ski at the end of his last name...i don't know,,,,its all a fucking blur....think it was smazranski or something like that....he sucked also....oh well.....team is a cesspool.....i don't care what kind of roster we have....like you say....it never works out....
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The Browns should fire Jimmy Haslam
Updated Jan 08, 2020;Posted Jan 08, 2020189. 284 sharesBy Other VoicesThe guy the Cleveland Browns should fire is team owner Jimmy Haslam. He has shown he has no clue about running a franchise. Every decision he makes quickly ends up wrong. And you’ll notice that the best coaching hires have already happened without the Browns getting any of them (“Can the Browns afford to be patient with their head coach search when the Redskins and Cowboys moved quickly?" cleveland.com, Jan. 6).
This is partly because the owner doesn’t know what he’s doing and can’t make up his mind, and partly because he has made Cleveland an undesirable place to be a coach or general manager. No one wants to be a one-and-done hire by a know-nothing owner.
Don Lannoch,
Solon
yip, we are fucked once again...didn't we have another coach a few yrs back with ski at the end of his last name...i don't know,,,,its all a fucking blur....think it was smazranski or something like that....he sucked also....oh well.....team is a cesspool.....i don't care what kind of roster we have....like you say....it never works out....
yip, we are fucked once again...didn't we have another coach a few yrs back with ski at the end of his last name...i don't know,,,,its all a fucking blur....think it was smazranski or something like that....he sucked also....oh well.....team is a cesspool.....i don't care what kind of roster we have....like you say....it never works out....
Chudzinski is a quality coach.. He wasn't given a fair chance..
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MHO? This is their last chance to "get it right".
I wish, but that is by NO means the case. Certainly the fans can't force him to sell. The league certainly will not. This is not like Modell who was about to have his franchised foreclosed on, even after being bailed out once by the Baltimore Bribe. JH still operates in a fiscally profitable manner. And the league does not care that he does not win. The league always wants a few patsy teams as long as they make money. The Bidwills have owned the Cardinals for generations. Now that he has reduced duties at Pilot after selling, Jimmy and Dee will be spending their time dealing with their sports franchises, Browns, Columbus Crew. And it seems clear that they want this team for posterity....to hand down to their kids:
They have three adult children, James Bagwell Haslam (adopted 2016), Whitney Haslam Johnson, and Cynthia Haslam Arnholt and five grandchildren.
Further evidenced by this list of their front office on their website:
- Dee Haslam Owner
- Jimmy Haslam Owner
- JW Johnson Executive Vice President, Owner (son-in-law)
- Whitney Haslam Johnson Owner
- Paul DePodesta Chief Strategy Officer
Curious about this adoption of James....an adult?
And notice who is the first person listed right after the family
Certainly the fans can't force him to sell
They absolutely can. But won't.
They can NOT buy tickets and NOT go to the games. They could peacefully protest, stating sell the team Jimmy, or watch the games by yourself. (well, actually with the opponent's fans)
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
MHO? This is their last chance to "get it right".
I know I can't wait to see what "THE PROCESS PART DEUX" does this time!
Should be another riveting Browns draft by DePodesta and Co.!
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I know I can't wait to see what "THE PROCESS PART DEUX" does this time!
Should be another riveting Browns draft by DePodesta and Co.!
All full of crappy SPARQ players..
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1-31. Too late.
And the other 31 multimillionaire and billionaire members would be very reluctant to take action to kick one of the owners out and sell the team but they can !
In reference to the Jerry Jones case in 2017 (no action taken)......
A league source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that multiple owners already have been discussing the possibility, which flows from Article VIII of the NFL’s Constitution & Bylaws. Specifically, Section 8.13 authorizes the Commissioner to determine that an owner “has been or is guilty of conduct detrimental to the welfare of the League or professional football.” If the Commissioner believes the available sanction (a $500,000 fine) is “not adequate or sufficient,” the Commissioner may refer the issue to the NFL’s Executive Committee, which has the power to compel “[c]ancellation or forfeiture of the franchise in the League of any member club involved or implicated,” with a directive to sell the team.
Now I'm not sure on some of the other details like stadium deals and other matters.
Hopefully this goes the simple way and soon ...... without any more 1-31 fiascos.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
The Browns should fire Jimmy Haslam
Updated Jan 08, 2020;Posted Jan 08, 2020189. 284 sharesBy Other VoicesThe guy the Cleveland Browns should fire is team owner Jimmy Haslam. He has shown he has no clue about running a franchise. Every decision he makes quickly ends up wrong. And you’ll notice that the best coaching hires have already happened without the Browns getting any of them (“Can the Browns afford to be patient with their head coach search when the Redskins and Cowboys moved quickly?" cleveland.com, Jan. 6).
This is partly because the owner doesn’t know what he’s doing and can’t make up his mind, and partly because he has made Cleveland an undesirable place to be a coach or general manager. No one wants to be a one-and-done hire by a know-nothing owner.
Don Lannoch,
Solon
yip, we are fucked once again...didn't we have another coach a few yrs back with ski at the end of his last name...i don't know,,,,its all a fucking blur....think it was smazranski or something like that....he sucked also....oh well.....team is a cesspool.....i don't care what kind of roster we have....like you say....it never works out....
yip, we are fucked once again...didn't we have another coach a few yrs back with ski at the end of his last name...i don't know,,,,its all a fucking blur....think it was smazranski or something like that....he sucked also....oh well.....team is a cesspool.....i don't care what kind of roster we have....like you say....it never works out....
Yeah, the name was Terry Robiski, interim coach. Then Chudzinski. A couple of polocks.
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