Browns hire Kevin Stefanski as HC
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First staff tidbits I've seen...
Browns to part with OC Todd Monken, retain special teams coordinator Mike Priefer, per report
Kevin Stefanski is already lining up his first coaching staff despite lack of official announcement
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Stephanski wasn't "my guy". Try to get at least ONE fact straight this month, okay?
I wanted Kris Richard, who wasn't interviewed. "Reading comprehension" IS a thing, you know.
Coulda fooled me. Here is a "fact" from page 3 of this very thread. If that is not an endorsement then I don't know what is. I read yours first and then PoG's and exactly what did you expect me to say other than "We're fucked"?
cal said on Sept 14 right here in this thread on page 3:
"well, I bought into the hype with the last two failure hc's...so third time is the charm. Personally, I put a lot of stock in who said also, it's a "fantastic" hire in the video. that means serious stuff, imho.
This time, I'm seeing that they learned their lesson. Stephanski is no "nice guy fuddy duddy nincampoop gonna fail" guy. you betcha. and that is with a UDFA at ROG and a terrific RT that got hurt in the playoff game."
Next time try to remember your "facts" for at least two days after you post them. "Writing comprehension" IS a thing you know.?
Coulda fooled me. Here is a "fact" from page 3 of this very thread. If that is not an endorsement then I don't know what is. I read yours first and then PoG's and exactly what did you expect me to say other than "We're fucked"?
cal said on Sept 14 right here in this thread on page 3:
"well, I bought into the hype with the last two failure hc's...so third time is the charm. Personally, I put a lot of stock in who said also, it's a "fantastic" hire in the video. that means serious stuff, imho.
This time, I'm seeing that they learned their lesson. Stephanski is no "nice guy fuddy duddy nincampoop gonna fail" guy. you betcha. and that is with a UDFA at ROG and a terrific RT that got hurt in the playoff game."
Next time try to remember your "facts" for at least two days after you post them. "Writing comprehension" IS a thing you know.?
You are just a stupid-ass. Read your own post. Sept 14? It's JANUARY you ignorant butthole. I'm supporting their choice as hopefully a GREAT choice. But he wasn't MY choice.
So, who would you pick as the next HC ?
calfoxwc replied to tinythinker's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...I'd pickKris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get aninterview with the Browns. Did with the Giants... at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach. -
Pros and Cons on head coach candidates
calfoxwc posted a topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
Interesting list. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2869050-mike-freemans-10-point-stance-pros-and-cons-on-nfl-coach-candidates I am leaning big towardsKris Richard . Looking at all the candidates a bit... yep. -
so, it's now well established that you, Texie, don't know a fact if it bit you in ass, making you...an ass.
Browns tointerview McCarthy
calfoxwc replied to Neo's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
I'm allin onKris Richard , new head coach. Not keen on McCarthy. -
I was wrong. But Kris Richard was my choice to be the next head coach.
2020 Predictions for the Browns!!
calfoxwc replied to Kvoethe's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
Kris Richard - should be the next head coach of the Browns. It's his time. -
I'm not saying stefanski is the right or wrong guy. I'm pretty numb to the whole situation. But I think Jimmy may have gotten the memo...
-Depo has now wanted to make 2 hires (McDermott and Stefanski) and was overridden on both by Haslam and his crew..epic fail
-His "analytics" team when Hue was the coach was not as much of an absolute failure as we may have perceived. Sashi told EVERYONE he was burning it to the ground multiple times and rebuilding with cap space and draft picks. Exactly what he did. Baby Huey was a terrible coach and didn't understand the concepts of how analytics worked. Dorsey was the right guy for talent evaluation to bring in but Sashi gave him a gold mine.
-Dorsey utilized everything that the "analtyics team" had built to acquire more talent (which is what he was supposed to do) but instead of evolving and utilizing modern techniques he went old school with Freddie and it fell apart. Neither were on-board for learning new things and examining how the league was changing and adapting to last years tapes. I find it interesting that Dorsey has now been fired twice by organizations for basically being difficult to work with and not being on the same page as the rest of the organization. He's a hell of an evaluator of talent but I'm not sure he knows how to put a "team" of players together
-Baltimore and Phily are known to have an analytics person on a headset during the game giving advice to Harbaugh and Pederson...this is not something new or innovative
-Finally, for the first time, the entire organization is going to be on the same page. Stefanski is basically picking his GM (Probably the guy from the Vikings), they embrace modern ideas and Haslam wants to see organization in unison
-I think McDaniels wanted scorched earth with the entire organization and Haslam got scared. He's done this so many times that he can't afford (maybe literally-over $150 million in dead money) to get such a major thing wrong. Also interesting is to see what the contract is that they give Stefanski. McDaniels agents are the same guys who got Rhule is $70 million deal.
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Looks like the Cavs found a solid way to dump that "Kevin Love" fellow's contract.
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I'm not saying stefanski is the right or wrong guy. I'm pretty numb to the whole situation. But I think Jimmy may have gotten the memo...
-Depo has now wanted to make 2 hires (McDermott and Stefanski) and was overridden on both by Haslam and his crew..epic fail
-His "analytics" team when Hue was the coach was not as much of an absolute failure as we may have perceived. Sashi told EVERYONE he was burning it to the ground multiple times and rebuilding with cap space and draft picks. Exactly what he did. Baby Huey was a terrible coach and didn't understand the concepts of how analytics worked. Dorsey was the right guy for talent evaluation to bring in but Sashi gave him a gold mine.
-Dorsey utilized everything that the "analtyics team" had built to acquire more talent (which is what he was supposed to do) but instead of evolving and utilizing modern techniques he went old school with Freddie and it fell apart. Neither were on-board for learning new things and examining how the league was changing and adapting to last years tapes. I find it interesting that Dorsey has now been fired twice by organizations for basically being difficult to work with and not being on the same page as the rest of the organization. He's a hell of an evaluator of talent but I'm not sure he knows how to put a "team" of players together
-Baltimore and Phily are known to have an analytics person on a headset during the game giving advice to Harbaugh and Pederson...this is not something new or innovative
-Finally, for the first time, the entire organization is going to be on the same page. Stefanski is basically picking his GM (Probably the guy from the Vikings), they embrace modern ideas and Haslam wants to see organization in unison
-I think McDaniels wanted scorched earth with the entire organization and Haslam got scared. He's done this so many times that he can't afford (maybe literally-over $150 million in dead money) to get such a major thing wrong. Also interesting is to see what the contract is that they give Stefanski. McDaniels agents are the same guys who got Rhule is $70 million deal.
I'm not saying stefanski is the right or wrong guy. I'm pretty numb to the whole situation. But I think Jimmy may have gotten the memo...
Really good stuff...
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Hearing that there were stipulations placed on candidates such as giving Haslam the weekly game plan and using analytics in decision making just makes me laugh
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I have to say, for all the fans who have paid so much for season tickets,... that this is very much a make or break hire, I think.....
Fail this time, and I can see where the old Saints "shopping bag over the head" would be in order. One more failure, I can see where the Haslams should just sell the team.
Putting an outstanding staff together, new hc works out... now is the time, Haslams, to put up or shut up. Failure is not an option.
Most fans should EXPECT a playoff run. I've made a few excuses "first year hc, etc. takes time". well, it seems time has run out for 3 yr plans that never come to success. The time is now. But no pressure on Stephanowski. lol
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Hearing that there were stipulations placed on candidates such as giving Haslam the weekly game plan and using analytics in decision making just makes me laugh
Hearing that there were stipulations placed on candidates such as giving Haslam the weekly game plan and using analytics in decision making just makes me laugh
What a fucking joke.
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I DO NOT like this hire!
Keep in mind, I applauded the drafting of Manziel, the hiring of Hue, & the promotion of Freddie.
After analyzing the situation, I don't know Jack Shit!
GO BROWNS!
Canton
Mike
I DO NOT like this hire!
Keep in mind, I applauded the drafting of Manziel, the hiring of Hue, & the promotion of Freddie.
I've gotta reply to this...even before I read pages 7 & 8.
Mike, I have you pegged as sort of a Homer. You always try to find something to root for in just about everything that the Browns do. So man, I've gotta give ya some credit for taking this stance. - And it's not because I like people being negative about the Browns.....it's because I don't think it was easy for you to say.
Me personally, I don't hate the hire. Is it like hiring a Harvard Freddie Kitchens? Yup. But I'm going to give the guy the clean slate that he deserves. (as I know you will) He's supposedly a smart guy. He's not a loud mouthed yeller. I like smart, under control guys. We'll see how it works out.
What I don't like is the process. Jimmy and his family running things. Husband, wife and son-in-law. They've proven that they're football dopes. I hope Stefanski can succeed in spite of The Family.
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Oh shit you and cal too? We're fucked.?
Stephanski wasn't "my guy". Try to get at least ONE fact straight this month, okay?
I wanted Kris Richard, who wasn't interviewed. "Reading comprehension" IS a thing, you know.
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I thought this too but word is that Haslam was not open to the changes McDaniels wanted to make. The biggest of those being him not meddling and also diminishing the role of Depo. McDaniels wasn’t hired because Jimmy wouldn’t get his fingers out of the pie. GET THIS - Dustin Fox is reporting that Stefanski has to sit down on Monday’s and review the gameplay with Haslam and Depo. If this is true we are doomed until that asshat is gone.
At least you've got some "word is" in your post... and it's saying that that McD overstepped his bounds. At least that's consistent with what we know about the guy. The big question is what did McD propose in place of the reduction in Depo's role?
As for telling an owner not to meddle... how arrogant can an employee be? Kraft meddled... got right in the middle of the Jimmy G/ TB12 thing... and Jimmy G went to SF. Bill did well to get a 2nd considering the circumstances. Like it or not, it's Jimmah's pie...
As for the weekly game plan reviews... I made fun of them earlier, but they could be much about nothing. For starters I have to believe they're very high-level, broad-brush talks, if for no other reason but that Depo and Jimmah don't know enough to get into the weeds. The plan should already have considered input from the analytics boys, so it's not like Depo's going to bring anything new to the meeting.
Feels to me like more of a... wait for it... process check to see how well their young HC is delegating responsibility for developing the plan for the week and how he assembles the pieces... the tactics, if you like... into an overall, winning strategy.
Bottom line... I don't think the weekly meet has to be a bad thing... and so long as it's not enough to drive off every candidate that's good enough for now.
Next check for me will be reports of when it occurs on Monday and how long the meetings last. If they are not end of the day and/or last more than 30 minutes... 45 tops... then I'll get worried.
Until then I'll just watch the hair-on-fire, chinese-fire-drill that is the Browns Board...
At least you've got some "word is" in your post... and it's saying that that McD overstepped his bounds. At least that's consistent with what we know about the guy. The big question is what did McD propose in place of the reduction in Depo's role?
As for telling an owner not to meddle... how arrogant can an employee be? Kraft meddled... got right in the middle of the Jimmy G/ TB12 thing... and Jimmy G went to SF. Bill did well to get a 2nd considering the circumstances. Like it or not, it's Jimmah's pie...
As for the weekly game plan reviews... I made fun of them earlier, but they could be much about nothing. For starters I have to believe they're very high-level, broad-brush talks, if for no other reason but that Depo and Jimmah don't know enough to get into the weeds. The plan should already have considered input from the analytics boys, so it's not like Depo's going to bring anything new to the meeting.
Feels to me like more of a... wait for it... process check to see how well their young HC is delegating responsibility for developing the plan for the week and how he assembles the pieces... the tactics, if you like... into an overall, winning strategy.
Bottom line... I don't think the weekly meet has to be a bad thing... and so long as it's not enough to drive off every candidate that's good enough for now.
Next check for me will be reports of when it occurs on Monday and how long the meetings last. If they are not end of the day and/or last more than 30 minutes... 45 tops... then I'll get worried.
Until then I'll just watch the hair-on-fire, chinese-fire-drill that is the Browns Board...
For most organizations I’d agree that McD perhaps overstepped his bounds. Keep in mind however he was not an employee but one interviewing to be one. Anyone well versed in interviewing is not just also interviewing the prospective employer. With Haslams track record of meddling and forcing bad decisions it entirely reasonable to want that changed prior to accepting the job. I will give you that perhaps the weekly meeting is a bit overblown, that said of the 32 teams how many owners do you think are reviewing game plans on Mondays??
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I DO NOT like this hire!
Keep in mind, I applauded the drafting of Manziel, the hiring of Hue, & the promotion of Freddie.
After analyzing the situation, I don't know Jack Shit!
GO BROWNS!
Canton
Mike
I DO NOT like this hire!
Keep in mind, I applauded the drafting of Manziel, the hiring of Hue, & the promotion of Freddie.
After analyzing the situation, I don't know Jack Shit!
GO BROWNS!
Canton
Mike
One of the best posts ever! I resemble those remarks
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I'm just curious, but what other team(s) interviewed Stefanski last year and this one for a head coaching job? Besides the Browns, of course...
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Coulda fooled me. Here is a "fact" from page 3 of this very thread. If that is not an endorsement then I don't know what is. I read yours first and then PoG's and exactly what did you expect me to say other than "We're fucked"?
cal said on Sept 14 right here in this thread on page 3:
"well, I bought into the hype with the last two failure hc's...so third time is the charm. Personally, I put a lot of stock in who said also, it's a "fantastic" hire in the video. that means serious stuff, imho.
This time, I'm seeing that they learned their lesson. Stephanski is no "nice guy fuddy duddy nincampoop gonna fail" guy. you betcha. and that is with a UDFA at ROG and a terrific RT that got hurt in the playoff game."
Next time try to remember your "facts" for at least two days after you post them. "Writing comprehension" IS a thing you know.?
You are just a stupid-ass. Read your own post. Sept 14? It's JANUARY you ignorant butthole. I'm supporting their choice as hopefully a GREAT choice. But he wasn't MY choice.
So, who would you pick as the next HC ?
calfoxwc replied to tinythinker's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...I'd pickKris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get aninterview with the Browns. Did with the Giants... at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.You are just a stupid-ass. Read your own post. Sept 14? It's JANUARY you ignorant butthole. I'm supporting their choice as hopefully a GREAT choice. But he wasn't MY choice.
So, who would you pick as the next HC ?
calfoxwc replied to tinythinker's topic in THE BROWNS BOARD
...I'd pickKris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get aninterview with the Browns. Did with the Giants... at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.So I misstyped it. No big deal. And he was my choice only if Kubiac came with the deal. That still does not negate what you said in this thread prior to PoG, hence my little barb.
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