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  • D Bone D BoneD Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    The Son of Bum would be an awesome hire.  

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      Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

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        Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

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        @orion said:

        Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

        You forgot the homeless guy 

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          Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

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          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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          @orion said:

          Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

          It's a consensus of geniuses! 

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            @orion said:

            Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

            It's a consensus of geniuses! 

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            @dutch-oven said:

            It's a consensus of geniuses! 

            There, that's better. 

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              Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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              Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?

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                Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?

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                @louisville-slugger said:

                Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?

                Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett, maybe we can trade Myles to Chicago? 

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                  jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                  My worry is that he’d seemingly be coming here for a paycheck. I’d HAPPILY take him over Wilks though.

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                    Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                    @louisville-slugger said:

                    Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?

                    1 gap, bud Wilkins disciple.  No real personnel changes would have to be made. 

                    I.e. Demarcus Ware in Dallas v Den. 

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                      Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?

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                      CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS
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                      @louisville-slugger said:

                      Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?

                      I would sure hope not. Myles would likely have to convert to a pass rushing edge OLB. I think he would excel as an LB.
                      He’s so athletic that I’d imagine he will suffice in coverage. 

                      Good read about Phillips’ defense:
                      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.milehighreport.com/platform/amp/2015/1/27/7922019/the-wade-phillips-3-4

                      Wade’s defense needs ILBs that can cover(Mack Wilson and Joe Schobert) 

                      Would Kirksey oppose Garrett at OLB? 

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                        Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        Wade will be 73 in June... I'm shocked he keeps wanting DC jobs.... but if he wants one more I'm good with that. He always seems to instantly produce a great D, but never quite sustains it.

                        @orion said:

                        Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

                        I'd be shocked if it's not Stef that has final say, but candidate input from others would seem wise. Stef's spent almost his entire career in MN, so he's not been exposed to the broadcast of coaching cross-sections.

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                        Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett, maybe we can trade Myles to Chicago? 

                        It did??? Then why isn't Trubs a Brown???

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                          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                          There's nothing all that "different" about it when compared to some of the 40 under looks you'll see across the league.    Alignment and gap assignment is the big deal here.    

                          Remember the Niners under Harbaugh? Vic Fangio was their D-cord and shares some similar philosophy to Wade - especially up front.    Go to YouTube, check them out, then go watch the Bears the past 3 seasons as well.  Same guy, same scheme. 

                          Vernon would be the edge across from Garrett in base or pretty much any other look.  

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                            There's nothing all that "different" about it when compared to some of the 40 under looks you'll see across the league.    Alignment and gap assignment is the big deal here.    

                            Remember the Niners under Harbaugh? Vic Fangio was their D-cord and shares some similar philosophy to Wade - especially up front.    Go to YouTube, check them out, then go watch the Bears the past 3 seasons as well.  Same guy, same scheme. 

                            Vernon would be the edge across from Garrett in base or pretty much any other look.  

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                            CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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                            @tiamat63 said:

                            There's nothing all that "different" about it when compared to some of the 40 under looks you'll see across the league.    Alignment and gap assignment is the big deal here.    

                            Remember the Niners under Harbaugh? Vic Fangio was their D-cord and shares some similar philosophy to Wade - especially up front.    Go to YouTube, check them out, then go watch the Bears the past 3 seasons as well.  Same guy, same scheme. 

                            Vernon would be the edge across from Garrett in base or pretty much any other look.  

                            Not a fan of the 3-4, if I recall correctly..?

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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              There's nothing all that "different" about it when compared to some of the 40 under looks you'll see across the league.    Alignment and gap assignment is the big deal here.    

                              Remember the Niners under Harbaugh? Vic Fangio was their D-cord and shares some similar philosophy to Wade - especially up front.    Go to YouTube, check them out, then go watch the Bears the past 3 seasons as well.  Same guy, same scheme. 

                              Vernon would be the edge across from Garrett in base or pretty much any other look.  

                              Not a fan of the 3-4, if I recall correctly..?

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                              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                              @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                              Not a fan of the 3-4, if I recall correctly..?

                              Who? Me? 

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                                The Son of Bum would be an awesome hire.  

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                                GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by
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                                @d-bone said:

                                The Son of Bum would be an awesome hire.  

                                And he might just hate the Steelers too.

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                                  Phillips runs a one-gap 3-4 base defense, which "in general" looks closer to a 4-3 in terms of personnel. So I don't think there would be any need to get up in arms about switching to a 3-4.

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                                    @louisville-slugger said:

                                    Doesnt Phillips run a base 3-4? If we bring him here would we trade Garrett?

                                    Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett, maybe we can trade Myles to Chicago? 

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett,

                                    The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you?   You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks.  The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve.  The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB.   Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.

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                                      @orion said:

                                      Who hires the coordinators in Haslam Land?  The HC?  DePodesta?  The son-in-law?

                                      You forgot the homeless guy 

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                                      @sdbacker80 said:

                                      You forgot the homeless guy 

                                      ....he's in charge of drafting QB's now that Dorsey is gone.

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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        Since THE PROCESS wanted to draft Trubisky instead of Garrett,

                                        The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you?   You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks.  The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve.  The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB.   Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.

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                                        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                        @orion said:

                                        The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you?   You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks.  The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve.  The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB.   Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.

                                        If the QB is someone besides Mitchell Trubisky, perhaps... ?

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                                          @orion said:

                                          The thing is, if you don't have even a half decent QB, what good is a DE (edge rusher) going to do you?   You will pretty much have the same lousy losing team....except you'll have more sacks.  The QB of a football team has a value far and away above any other position. So when you ain't got one, you have to grade the draft on a curve.  The DE might grade higher than the QB in the draft....but the value of the position bumps up the grade of the QB.   Unless the DE is good at throwing TD passes.

                                          If the QB is someone besides Mitchell Trubisky, perhaps... ?

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                                          OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          If the QB is someone besides Mitchell Trubisky, perhaps... ?

                                          .....turns out.

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