PLAYOFF WEEK 3 - AFC and NFC CHAMPIONSHIP and NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP notes & January 19 lines.

mjp28

@hoorta said:

1. And you wonder why I have him as a mortal lock going to the Bengals? I'd trade Mayfield and our first round pick to Cinci right now for Joe, and not give it a second thought.

2. A bigger and slower version of Lamar Jackson. When LSU brought the heat, he threw some downright errant passes.

1. Cinci probably would want more than swapping R1 picks plus Mayfield. I was thinking about that during the game watching Burrow pick apart the undefeated and defending champions.

2. I've always believed that the super tall QBs have built in problems, sure they can see over the lines better than a 6' to 6' 3" guy and might have a cannon arm -but- they lose a lot in mobility which can also lead to excessive hits particularly in the legs. And a cannon arm isn't always accurate. A matter of preference I guess.

Tour2ma

@hoorta said:

I'd trade Mayfield and our first round pick to Cinci right now for Joe, and not give it a second thought.

Keep going... I'd have no issues adding our 2021 #1 to that mix... and it still probably is not enough.

hoorta

@tour2ma said:

Keep going... I'd have no issues adding our 2021 #1 to that mix... and it still probably is not enough.

Super Joe has everything I saw in Baker at Oklahoma, but even more of it. Yeah- put the 2019 version of Burrow on the Buckeyes, and they beat Clemson.... That's one big fish OSU let get away....

Tour2ma

Just realized I don't have a comparison for Burrow. Lately it's been, "So and so is the best I've seen since Luck," but I think Burrow is better than Luck... so now I'm stuck for a comparison.

Only thing that gives me any pause in saying "better than Luck" is Luck's deeper resume, but it's only an exceedingly brief pause.

I guess I need to figure who Luck was my "best since"... maybe Carson Palmer??? Great... another Bengal draft pick... lol...

calfoxwc

Watching the title game, Burrow is a locked in 1st overall. In all my years, I don't remember watching a college qb and

thinking "he plays like he is a pro qb already". I wonder how many high draft picks New England would have to give to Cincy to trade up? lol

mjp28

TUESDAY LATE PM - report, not saying too much......yet.

Tennessee Titans

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS
Adam Humphries	WR	Jan 13	Questionable
Jayon Brown	LB	Jan 13	Questionable
Cody Hollister	WR	Jan 13	Questionable

Kansas City Chiefs

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Chris Jones	DT	Jan 13	Questionable	Coach Andy Reid indicated Monday that Jones (calf) wasn't close to playing against Texans on Sunday, Adam Teicher of ESPN.com reports. "He couldn't push off," Reid said of Jones.
Morris Claiborne	CB	Jan 13	Questionable

Green Bay Packers

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Bryan Bulaga	OT	Jan 14	Questionable	Coach Matt LaFleur believes Bulaga had a 24-hour flu bug, and the lineman is feeling better, Matt Schneidman of The Athletic reports.
Dexter Williams	RB	Jan 13	Questionable
Josh Jackson	CB	Jan 13	Questionable
Danny Vitale	FB	Jan 13	Questionable

San Francisco 49ers

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Mark Nzeocha	LB	Jan 12	Questionable	Nzeocha left Saturday's divisional-round win over the Vikings with a stinger, Keiana Martin of the 49ers' official site reports.
Raheem Mostert	RB	Jan 11	Questionable	Mostert told Nick Wagoner of ESPN.com after Saturday's win against the Vikings that he exited in the fourth quarter due to a cramp in his calf.

mjp28

Just a little side note right now in SB 54 the AFC is a 3 point favorite over the NFC what does that tell you? The KC/TEN side looks stronger than the SF/GB side. Agree or disagree? https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/superbowl/history

Some Super Bowl notes in general...... and YES our BROWNS were in the conversation preseason...... continued in the link........

mjp28

Another strange thing that just happened in the last weeks/months no NE/BAL in the Final Four. At one time they were BIG favorites.

The Gipper

I think it depends on who actually makes it. If SFO does, I suspect they would be favorites over anyone. Wouldn't they?

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

I think it depends on who actually makes it. If SFO does, I suspect they would be favorites over anyone. Wouldn't they?

When I looked at the individual odds it looks like KC is the favorite. And yes the odds change every week including this one the odds right now:

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)

Team	Odds
Kansas City Chiefs	7/5
San Francisco 49ers	3/2
Green Bay Packers	7/1
Tennessee Titans	8/1

BET NOW ON SUPER BOWL LIV

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP (1/19/20)

Team	Odds
San Francisco 49ers	2/7
Green Bay Packers	11/4

BET NOW ON NFC CHAMPIONSHIP

ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP (1/19/20)

Team	Odds
Kansas City Chiefs	2/7
Tennessee Titans	3/1

Ibleedbrown

@the-gipper said:

I think it depends on who actually makes it. If SFO does, I suspect they would be favorites over anyone. Wouldn't they?

I suppose you’re prepared to pony up?

The Gipper

@ibleedbrown said:

I suppose you’re prepared to pony up?

No don’t care enough. Beside you can’t gamble on sports around here. When I am in Las Vegas on February 2 I will put a bit down on the Super Bowl just for shits and giggles

mjp28

OK here's some more numbers for you the odds for winning NEXT YEAR'S SUPER BOWL 2020-2021. And YES our BROWNS are somewhat in the mix at 30/1.

In fact the AFCN is up there including Pittsburgh, remember these are bettor driven numbers. GO BROWNS, yeah baby !

ODDS TO WIN 2020-21 SUPER BOWL LV (2/7/21)

Team	Odds
Kansas City Chiefs	7/1
Baltimore Ravens. *	* 8/1
San Francisco 49ers	8/1
New Orleans Saints	10/1
New England Patriots	12/1
Pittsburgh Steelers. *	12/1
Dallas Cowboys	16/1
Philadelphia Eagles	20/1
Green Bay Packers	20/1
Seattle Seahawks	20/1
Los Angeles Rams	25/1
Chicago Bears	30/1
Cleveland Browns *	30/1. <---. 7 teams at 30/1
Los Angeles Chargers	30/1
Indianapolis Colts	30/1
Houston Texans	30/1
Tennessee Titans	30/1
Minnesota Vikings	30/1
Buffalo Bills	40/1
Atlanta Falcons	40/1
Las Vegas Raiders	40/1
Denver Broncos	60/1
New York Jets	60/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	60/1
Arizona Cardinals	80/1
New York Giants	80/1
Jacksonville Jaguars	80/1
Detroit Lions	80/1
Carolina Panthers	100/1
Cincinnati Bengals. *	100/1
Miami Dolphins	100/1
Washington Redskins	100/1

Updated Mon, Jan. 13, 9:15 PM ET - Odds Subject to Change

Tour2ma · ODDS TO WIN 2020-21 SUPER BOWL LV (2/7/21)

@mjp28 said:

And YES our BROWNS are somewhat in the mix at 30/1.

HTF are we getting same odds as TN or MN?

No... we are not in any rational SB mix.

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:

HTF are we getting same odds as TN or MN?

No... we are not in any rational SB mix.

Gambling and rationality don't always mix.

mjp28

@tour2ma said:

HTF are we getting same odds as TN or MN?

No... we are not in any rational SB mix.

"Somewhat" in the mix at tied for 12th of 32 teams. However not in a top 10 spot for the 8 spots as a favorite to be there. https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures

mjp28

@tour2ma said:

HTF are we getting same odds as TN or MN?

No... we are not in any rational SB mix.

Oh those are also betting odds swayed by bettors both smart money and people betting with their hearts.

For example NE and PIT both tied for 5th at 12/1 do either of both belong there? Plus like Your noted HOU and TEN lumped in with CLE?

That's why they call it gambling not "sure thing".

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:

HTF are we getting same odds as TN or MN?

No... we are not in any rational SB mix.

This looks more like last August than it should now. Didn't we win the SB last August??

mjp28

@texasag1969 said:

This looks more like last August than it should now. Didn't we win the SB last August??

That's just the thing about preseason polls and rankings there are going to be some correct or close calls and some big swing and misses......for whatever reasons.

It does show some of the base potential on the BROWNS team particularly offensively IF they can get their act together.

mjp28

SATURDAY 1 PM INJURY REPORT, now you see a lot of guys not playing having various surgeries. https://www.espn.com/nfl/injuries

SF - NONE.

Green Bay Packers

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
JK Scott	P	Jan 18	Questionable	Scott has been added to the Packers' injury report as questionable ahead of Sunday's showdown against the 49ers due to an illness.
Danny Vitale	FB	Jan 17	Questionable	Vitale (knee) is officially questionable for Sunday's NFC Championship Game in San Francisco, Wes Hodkiewicz of the Packers' official site reports.

Kansas City Chiefs

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Matt Moore	QB	Jan 17	Questionable	Moore (illness) is officially questionable for the AFC Championship Game against Tennessee on Sunday.
Chris Jones	DT	Jan 17	Questionable	Jones (calf) was a limited participant in Friday's practice, Sam McDowell of The Kansas City Star reports.
LeSean McCoy	RB	Jan 17	Questionable	McCoy (illness) is listed as questionable for Sundays' AFC Championship Game against the Titans.

Tennessee Titans

NAME	POS	DATE	STATUS	COMMENT
Jack Conklin	OT	Jan 17	Questionable	Conklin is listed as questionable for Sunday's showdown against the Chiefs due to a shoulder injury, Turron Davenport of ESPN.com reports.
David Long	LB	Jan 17	Questionable	Long is listed as questionable for Sunday's matchup with the Chiefs due to a knee injury, Turron Davenport of ESPN.com reports.
Rashaan Evans	LB	Jan 17	Questionable	Evans (foot) is questionable for Sunday's AFC Championship Game in Kansas City, Turron Davenport of ESPN.com repots.
Adoree' Jackson	CB	Jan 17	Questionable	Jackson (foot) is officially questionable for Sunday's AFC Championship Game in Kansas City, Turron Davenport of ESPN.com reports.
Jayon Brown	LB	Jan 17	Questionable	Brown (shoulder) is officially questionable for Sunday's playoff game against the Chiefs, Turron Davenport of ESPN.com reports.
Cody Hollister	WR	Jan 17	Questionable	Hollister (ankle) is questionable for the AFC Championship Game against the Chiefs on Sunday, Turron Davenport of ESPN.com reports.
Adam Humphries	WR	Jan 17	Questionable	Humphries (ankle) is listed as questionable for Sunday's AFC Cha