HC/GM/Position Coach tracker
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Two GM interviews set for today for our vacant GM job..
#1. Andrew Berry at Eagles-- Found the Browns exit door's as soon as Dorsey walked in.. Do you (or Jimmy) trust Berry will think Dorsey's building pieces are worthy?
#2. Monti Ossenfort at Patriots (scout)-- At first of hearing this name.. I thought Jimmy opened a New England area phone book & pointed at a name ? (he won't know of me)
Than comes the conflicting reports of who might make sense if Stefanski had any influence in choosing a aligning GM... Vikings-- George Paton
reports were this weekend as Browns 3rd GM candidate... now undecided to interview... OR>> (AKA- scared to death of Jimma function)
Are we aligning to Paul's 2nd home Depo Stop? or does your new Coach have any real influence? stay tuned...
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I've heard conflicting reports about Andrew Berry's player evaluation talents.
And General Paton has declined GM interviews before....so.....Haslam's gang would make a good candidate for another declined interview.
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I've heard conflicting reports about Andrew Berry's player evaluation talents.
And General Paton has declined GM interviews before....so.....Haslam's gang would make a good candidate for another declined interview.
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I think Stefanski explained it very well in his presser. 'You could see me on the sideline not talking to anyone....I'm thinking...getting information in my headset...picking the next play for the situation....getting it in to the QB.....You're very busy' . (said something of that nature) So yes, ideally we'd like him to give all of that to an OC, leaving himself time to manage the game. But,...he WAS an OC. (albeit for less than 2 seasons) And supposedly people liked his play calling. - I think it's hard, once you've got the play calling 'bug', to give it up.
I'm hoping our new DC doesn't want to be changing the body types of our front 7. I'd like to tweak and add this offseason...and not rip apart and retool. It takes up too many draft picks. We already need most of our OL to be upgraded upon.
I think Stefanski explained it very well in his presser. 'You could see me on the sideline not talking to anyone....I'm thinking...getting information in my headset...picking the next play for the situation....getting it in to the QB.....You're very busy' . (said something of that nature) So yes, ideally we'd like him to give all of that to an OC, leaving himself time to manage the game. But,...he WAS an OC. (albeit for less than 2 seasons) And supposedly people liked his play calling.
Basically said in his Intro Presser that if he's the best choice to call plays, then he will... if not, then he won't.
If I were a betting man, and I've been known to be, I'd bet that he'll be the best choice in 2020. My reason is I don't see a likely OC candidate that will have his experience and knowledge of the offense to be developed and installed. This is much the same case as it was with Pettine in his first year with us.
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Two GM interviews set for today for our vacant GM job..
#1. Andrew Berry at Eagles-- Found the Browns exit door's as soon as Dorsey walked in.. Do you (or Jimmy) trust Berry will think Dorsey's building pieces are worthy?
#2. Monti Ossenfort at Patriots (scout)-- At first of hearing this name.. I thought Jimmy opened a New England area phone book & pointed at a name ? (he won't know of me)
Than comes the conflicting reports of who might make sense if Stefanski had any influence in choosing a aligning GM... Vikings-- George Paton
reports were this weekend as Browns 3rd GM candidate... now undecided to interview... OR>> (AKA- scared to death of Jimma function)
Are we aligning to Paul's 2nd home Depo Stop? or does your new Coach have any real influence? stay tuned...
#1. Andrew Berry at Eagles-- Found the Browns exit door's as soon as Dorsey walked in.. Do you (or Jimmy) trust Berry will think Dorsey's building pieces are worthy?
Actually Berry was with us thru Dorsey's first year as GM, then he left or the Eagles job in 2019.
I've heard conflicting reports about Andrew Berry's player evaluation talents.
Not sure player evaluation is Berry's thing. While he has some scouting background, he rose quickly to take management roles, e.g., Scouting Coordinator, Director Pro Scouting, etc.
This will drive many here nuts, but I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So what gems did Andrew Berry unearth and which pieces of feldspar did he recognize as fool's gold when he was here?
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#1. Andrew Berry at Eagles-- Found the Browns exit door's as soon as Dorsey walked in.. Do you (or Jimmy) trust Berry will think Dorsey's building pieces are worthy?
Actually Berry was with us thru Dorsey's first year as GM, then he left or the Eagles job in 2019.
I've heard conflicting reports about Andrew Berry's player evaluation talents.
Not sure player evaluation is Berry's thing. While he has some scouting background, he rose quickly to take management roles, e.g., Scouting Coordinator, Director Pro Scouting, etc.
This will drive many here nuts, but I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
Actually Berry was with us thru Dorsey's first year as GM, then he left or the Eagles job in 2019.
Not sure player evaluation is Berry's thing. While he has some scouting background, he rose quickly to take management roles, e.g., Scouting Coordinator, Director Pro Scouting, etc.
This will drive many here nuts, but I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
So is he just a guy that is going to have a title, but little or no actual input into identifying talent and selecting it. So, maybe all he will be is the guy that negotiates the contracts of the guys that someone else chooses?
Or is that just the way to let him off the hook when he does a bad job at talent evaluation....blame it on Rio?
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I think Stefanski explained it very well in his presser. 'You could see me on the sideline not talking to anyone....I'm thinking...getting information in my headset...picking the next play for the situation....getting it in to the QB.....You're very busy' . (said something of that nature) So yes, ideally we'd like him to give all of that to an OC, leaving himself time to manage the game. But,...he WAS an OC. (albeit for less than 2 seasons) And supposedly people liked his play calling.
Basically said in his Intro Presser that if he's the best choice to call plays, then he will... if not, then he won't.
If I were a betting man, and I've been known to be, I'd bet that he'll be the best choice in 2020. My reason is I don't see a likely OC candidate that will have his experience and knowledge of the offense to be developed and installed. This is much the same case as it was with Pettine in his first year with us.
Basically said in his Intro Presser that if he's the best choice to call plays, then he will... if not, then he won't.
If I were a betting man, and I've been known to be, I'd bet that he'll be the best choice in 2020. My reason is I don't see a likely OC candidate that will have his experience and knowledge of the offense to be developed and installed. This is much the same case as it was with Pettine in his first year with us.
I would wait to make that bet until I knew for sure whether Kubiac is coming or not one way or the other.
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#1. Andrew Berry at Eagles-- Found the Browns exit door's as soon as Dorsey walked in.. Do you (or Jimmy) trust Berry will think Dorsey's building pieces are worthy?
Actually Berry was with us thru Dorsey's first year as GM, then he left or the Eagles job in 2019.
I've heard conflicting reports about Andrew Berry's player evaluation talents.
Not sure player evaluation is Berry's thing. While he has some scouting background, he rose quickly to take management roles, e.g., Scouting Coordinator, Director Pro Scouting, etc.
This will drive many here nuts, but I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
Actually Berry was with us thru Dorsey's first year as GM, then he left or the Eagles job in 2019.
my bad folks.. my sorry backwards counting of years Berry served.. and i still don't own a 2020 calendar... It's all a process
Why not interview Eliot Wolf for the GM position? Of all 32 teams watching the Shrine Bowl practices this week. 7 teams have not* interviewed 1 player.. Browns sit as 1 of 7 at Zero interviews.. Your Scouting staff ain't blind..it's got to be like walking on egg shells & around sitting Ducks in Berea...
Can we get the right people in place before The Senior Bowl practices start, please? (and it's not* Depo, your brother-in-law or wife, ect, ect) Edit--Updating post #2 as GM search begins
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I think in an ideal world, the Browns would probably want a hierarchy something along the lines of:
President of Football Operations: Berry
GM: Patton
Assistant GM: Wolf and Hightower
HC: Stefanski
This would put the team in "alignment" from top down. I'm not sure how good Berry is at drafting players, he is highly respected in the community so I would assume he has a pretty good idea. But I think where he really makes his money is in the organizational structure and contracts. Although, I'm not sure if the Browns would be able to hire him away from Phily for this type of position. In addition, this would allow Patton, Wolf and Hightower to focus on the players and draft. There would have to be a VP of Professional and a VP of college scouting somewhere in there which I would assume would remain Setta, Kova, Mainley, etc.
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#1. Andrew Berry at Eagles-- Found the Browns exit door's as soon as Dorsey walked in.. Do you (or Jimmy) trust Berry will think Dorsey's building pieces are worthy?
Actually Berry was with us thru Dorsey's first year as GM, then he left or the Eagles job in 2019.
I've heard conflicting reports about Andrew Berry's player evaluation talents.
Not sure player evaluation is Berry's thing. While he has some scouting background, he rose quickly to take management roles, e.g., Scouting Coordinator, Director Pro Scouting, etc.
This will drive many here nuts, but I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
...And that, of course reminds one of 'The Committee'. Where Shashi, who had to be told which player they were interested in looking at while at a pro day, had final say on draft picks / the roster. ( now we have, 'The Family' )
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I think in an ideal world, the Browns would probably want a hierarchy something along the lines of:
President of Football Operations: Berry
GM: Patton
Assistant GM: Wolf and Hightower
HC: Stefanski
This would put the team in "alignment" from top down. I'm not sure how good Berry is at drafting players, he is highly respected in the community so I would assume he has a pretty good idea. But I think where he really makes his money is in the organizational structure and contracts. Although, I'm not sure if the Browns would be able to hire him away from Phily for this type of position. In addition, this would allow Patton, Wolf and Hightower to focus on the players and draft. There would have to be a VP of Professional and a VP of college scouting somewhere in there which I would assume would remain Setta, Kova, Mainley, etc.
I think in an ideal world, the Browns would probably want a hierarchy something along the lines of:
President of Football Operations: Berry
GM: Patton
Assistant GM: Wolf and Hightower
HC: Stefanski
This would put the team in "alignment" from top down. I'm not sure how good Berry is at drafting players, he is highly respected in the community so I would assume he has a pretty good idea. But I think where he really makes his money is in the organizational structure and contracts. Although, I'm not sure if the Browns would be able to hire him away from Phily for this type of position. In addition, this would allow Patton, Wolf and Hightower to focus on the players and draft. There would have to be a VP of Professional and a VP of college scouting somewhere in there which I would assume would remain Setta, Kova, Mainley, etc.
That sounds good to me. Though I don't know if the Paton's move would be considered upward or lateral in that situation.
Question though would be: who is whose boss, Stink or Berry?
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#1. Andrew Berry at Eagles-- Found the Browns exit door's as soon as Dorsey walked in.. Do you (or Jimmy) trust Berry will think Dorsey's building pieces are worthy?
Actually Berry was with us thru Dorsey's first year as GM, then he left or the Eagles job in 2019.
I've heard conflicting reports about Andrew Berry's player evaluation talents.
Not sure player evaluation is Berry's thing. While he has some scouting background, he rose quickly to take management roles, e.g., Scouting Coordinator, Director Pro Scouting, etc.
This will drive many here nuts, but I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
This will drive many here nuts, but I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
The great thing about The Process - for those who have complete, unwavery support of it - is when it produces poor draft results there's absolutely no one to blame for them. Not his fault, not that guy's fault, definitely not that dude's fault.
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This will drive many here nuts, but I see us returning more to The Process than I do installing another Player-Super-Evaluator-in-Chief as GM.
The great thing about The Process - for those who have complete, unwavery support of it - is when it produces poor draft results there's absolutely no one to blame for them. Not his fault, not that guy's fault, definitely not that dude's fault.
here's absolutely no one to blame for them. Not his fault, not that guy's fault, definitely not that dude's fault.
Yup, nobody raises their hand.
In our current situation, we need a GM that can get us some 'real' football players. (...so, what does that mean?)
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Former Dolphins OC Chad O'Shea becomes 1st hire to Stefanski's staff as WR Coach & Passing Game Cord. Not a bad choice from a front office in Miami with Tanking on their mind.. here's more coaching staff rumors from Rapsheet.. https://nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001097523/article/conference-title-games-feature-desirable-coaching-candidates
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The team will also interview Rich Scangarello for a role on his staff this week, possibly as the QB coach. He could also end up as OC, though there is a possibility that the Browns don't have an official coordinator this year given Stefanski's prowess on offense and the issues that arose last season.
...once you get the play-calling 'bug', it's hard to give it up.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Stefanski acts as OC and hires an assistant OC.
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