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  • @neo said:

    Sometimes I feel I am the only sane person left on earth.

    No, you are not the last sane person left....because you are not sane at all either.  

    It doesn't matter who is wearing the uniform, they expect you to be respectful to them, it's just a fact. I was a security guard only for a couple of months and I understand that you expect people to be respectful to you while you are doing your job. 

    This guy was a cop carrying a gun, it would raise my blood pressure too if somebody came up behind me in a crowded room full of athletes and smacked me on the ass. I have a concealed weapon license and I don't even like people getting close to me in public.

    Well....that is called agoraphobia.....and they have medication for that. 

    Apparently the New Orleans police department didn't think it was nothing. I'm just going to agree to disagree.

    The New Orleans police dept. only thought it was nothing because it was some crazy looking video.  A guy in a locker room in the throes of celebration goes around high fiving, butt slapping, dancing, shimmying and shaking.  He did it to one of them, and the optics looked weird.  But I see no maliciousness whatsoever.  

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....that is called agoraphobia.....and they have medication for that. 

    You clearly don't get it. It's because I carry a gun. Carrying a gun changes your whole approach to everything. It's called not wanting someone to take my gun off of me and use it against me.  Same thing goes for an officer carrying a gun. 

  • it isn't just about the butt slap either. It's about the money handed out. That was flagrantly stupid. Premeditated STUPID and detrimental to what was going on and where it was going on.

      He can have his brand, I don't see these controversies ever stopping.

    It's also about the watch. And the pants. And the gesture on the other team's sideline that got a penalty. Look up some of his antics back in NY. It's about his behavior detrimental to the TEAM, detrimental to his college TEAM. The downside isn't worth whatever upside you get.

      At this point, if Simmons was gone, I'd be interested if Miami wanted to trade their second two later first round picks for our Tenth, and draft a WR and a LOT with those two picks, after trading OBJ.      

       I don't see him apologizing, could be wrong. His "brand" is too important.

    It may come to this:

  • @neo said:

    Sometimes I feel I am the only sane person left on earth.

    You're not. I literally can't believe that some of us are blaming the security guard for somehow instigating this innocent, playful reaction <( FUCK, now I really have read it all ) by our Douchebag Hero.  The dude was just doing his job and what he was told to do by his employer, yet he's at fault somehow? Fuck me. 

    Today's society Nero..... Could you imagine your 15yr old son or daughter doing this EXACT SAME THING, and then sitting around the dinner table blaming the racist "rentacop" that they slapped, as well as how the rule he was enforcing was stupid anyway, so it's OK little Timmy/Jennie..... It's not your fault. Let's go out for ice cream!

    Your kids are going to turn out just fine Neo.  

    @d-bone said:

    You're not. I literally can't believe that some of us are blaming the security guard for somehow instigating this innocent, playful reaction <( FUCK, now I really have read it all ) by our Douchebag Hero.  The dude was just doing his job and what he was told to do by his employer, yet he's at fault somehow? Fuck me. 

    Today's society Nero..... Could you imagine your 15yr old son or daughter doing this EXACT SAME THING, and then sitting around the dinner table blaming the racist "rentacop" that they slapped, as well as how the rule he was enforcing was stupid anyway, so it's OK little Timmy/Jennie..... It's not your fault. Let's go out for ice cream!

    Your kids are going to turn out just fine Nero.  

    Except as I said 100 times it patently wasn’t a rule. Cops said they were fine to drink and smoke cigars and this cop, in particular, was trying to be a tough guy. It’s also pretty clear the Joe burrow looking guys didn't get hassled. But who gives a shit about any of that right cause he had a badge? He wasn’t enforcing a fucking rule.

    I live literally two miles from mar a lago and have to visit that island all the time for stuff. I’m far, far from rich but that island is. The amount of times I’ve seen people doing nothing but be not white is sickening  . So yeah, it boils my blood when a tough guy cop is being a dick to dark skinned kids who are trying to legally have a good time after, ya know, winning a damn championship.

    does it make OBJ right? No. But given the above I couldn’t give less of a shit that a dude like that got his feeling hurt. There’s a good ass reason a judge laughed off a serious charge.

  • @warriorsrpussies said:

    Yoah, Yoah Archie Bunker I was trying to have a civil discussion here about the team and you went all Mike Pence on me. Ok son first of all I'm not gay, have a set of very young twins and a wife and since you know there's video evidence of him not being gay either so where does that leave us? Usually the biggest gay bashers are closeted homosexuals, Magatypes, religious zealous so Imma call a spade a spade. And sucking ass for 1000 yards while injured after witnessing the 03-05 receiver core makes me think you have dementia or alzheimer since this current fan base is full of old white people that are forgetful and full of hate and you fit the bill perfectly. It could be much worst, Anyhow you must be the life of party and thank god your not the GM as you run the team to the ground. Anyhow fuck off as your debating skill at your advanced age is like teaching my children how to potty, which is full of shit 🙂 May god bless once your mind fully goes down the shittier. Drops mics.

    PS: You Dolt look over to your left on your 13 inch Insignia monitor at my Interests and my past post, you messed with wrong one son!

    Larry... can this POS  poster... He's  here to whine and start drama.. I'm far too long in the tooth to deal with this moron...

    @nickers said:

    Larry... can this POS  poster... He's  here to whine and start drama.. I'm far too long in the tooth to deal with this moron...

    Hilarious!!! just cast this on the big scene at work for my co-workers to read, got a bunch of great laughs out of it. Wha, Wha I got own and after making homophobic statements and stupid comments WHA Mods please save!!! That's your come back? LOL! Thanks for bringing a me a smile on this slow work day.

  • All I’ve witnessed in NY and Cleveland is a lack of respect for authority and his antics at the LSU game just strengthen that belief.

    I thought when we traded for him he would fall in line and remain a “good teammate” until we started losing or he wasn’t being productive.  I don’t see anything else that would change my mind.  There are those that will say, well if we are losing who cares.  For me it’s about culture.  I’ve been a Jarvis Landry hater for the simple reason he gets a 15 yard celebration penalty and asked whether or not he’d change his behavior he said, nope I’d do it all over again.  I don’t think that attitude is what eradicates the losing culture.

    @baconhound said:

    For me it’s about culture.

    The culture, as stated by the head coach, is working hard and producing on Sunday.  

    Show proof that either Landry or OBJ are not 100% at both.

    Everything else is noise.

    Don't like it? Facts don't care about your feelings, snowflake.

    Your self-righteous identity trolling simply doesn't matter.      Notice I left out "politics" -- because this is about identity as a person.

    Winning fixes a "losing culture" real quick.

    Might want to go review Coach's statements about personalities.

  • @nickers said:

    Larry... can this POS  poster... He's  here to whine and start drama.. I'm far too long in the tooth to deal with this moron...

    Hilarious!!! just cast this on the big scene at work for my co-workers to read, got a bunch of great laughs out of it. Wha, Wha I got own and after making homophobic statements and stupid comments WHA Mods please save!!! That's your come back? LOL! Thanks for bringing a me a smile on this slow work day.

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    Hilarious!!! just cast this on the big scene at work for my co-workers to read, got a bunch of great laughs out of it. Wha, Wha I got own and after making homophobic statements and stupid comments WHA Mods please save!!! That's your come back? LOL! Thanks for bringing a me a smile on this slow work day.

    Fuck off Moron!

  • N Neo

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....that is called agoraphobia.....and they have medication for that. 

    You clearly don't get it. It's because I carry a gun. Carrying a gun changes your whole approach to everything. It's called not wanting someone to take my gun off of me and use it against me.  Same thing goes for an officer carrying a gun. 

    @neo said:

    You clearly don't get it. It's because I carry a gun. Carrying a gun changes your whole approach to everything. It's called not wanting someone to take my gun off of me and use it against me.  Same thing goes for an officer carrying a gun. 

    Well, gee, how can you resolve your paranoia and agoraphobia.  Maybe quit carrying the fucking gun. If you are not a cop or security guard  and obligated to carry it, put it away if it causes you so much consternation.   HELLO!

  • OBJ is a great teammate who works hard every day and produces on Sunday.

    This is a non-issue, and the virtue-signaling bullshit in this thread makes me laugh.  OBJ, keep triggering these snowflakes.

    @unsympathetic said:

     OBJ, keep triggering these snowflakes.

    Hey!

    That's WarriorsRpussies job!

    @nickers said:

    Larry... can this POS  poster... He's  here to whine and start drama.. I'm far too long in the tooth to deal with this moron...

    Why not just hit the "Report" button?

    One click and he'll never bother you again...

  • Zombo said:

    I can't believe the amount of Browns fans on here that think this is a big deal.

    I've seen the videos, what am I missing? A 20-something acting the clown when his team wins the National Championship?

    A security guard with thin skin?

    and ...?

    BTW, Jarvis Landry has a fractured vertebrae, and while Stefanski's offense is a perfect fit for Mayfield, he is still going to need his veteran WRs, so Beckham is going to be The Man until Landry is ready to go.

    He may have been #26 when he played the year injured, but he has averaged well over 90 yards per game when healthy and has 48 TDs in 71 starts, and he is 27.

    He isn't going anywhere, nor do we want him to.

    Zombo

     and it's an excellent deep draft for wr's. Nobody wants him to go anywhere - he's been a great teammate. But the current problem is, is it inevitable he hurts the Browns with his antics like he hurt LSU with his antics just after they won the National Championship?

    He was also removed from the LSU band area for trying to get them to play some bad lyrics song... and the money controversy, and the butt slapping controversy, there are other controversies in his past.

    He's a limit pusher for attention and negative drama. Good teammate, great player, but a headcase regardless. I think he craves his brand more than being the best football player.

    Even during a game, he got negative attention from the NFL.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27577756/nfl-speaks-obj-wearing-watch

    It's only a matter of time til he pushes the limits on the NFL's repetitive attention.

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/09/why-was-odell-beckham-jrs-visor-ruled-illegal-against-the-jets.html

    Some excellent viewpoints on OBJ's LSU Championship game behavior. Negative behavior, serious damage done - due to OBJ's selfabsorbed brand excesses. It must be fixed. Or, he's gone, imho.

    Excellent discussions:

    @calfoxwc said:

     and it's an excellent deep draft for wr's.

    Soon it's just going to be easier for you to list the positions in which this draft is not "excellent deep".

    @neo said:

    ... yes it is.

    Only if the restaurant is in a locker room full of kids who just won the Natty...

    @d-bone said:

    Today's society Nero....

    Your kids are going to turn out just fine Nero. 

    You were quoting Neo, not Nero...

    Get the name right next time, D Boe...

  • This is the last thing I am going to say on this topic.

    For as long as I can remember, you don't put hands on an officer. YOU DON'T PUT HANDS ON AN OFFICER. Every time I've seen it in real life or on TV, nine times out 10 you are going to jail. Odell fucked up plain and simple. I don't want to hear about the circumstances, Odell fucked up.

  • Zombo said:

    Just a bunch of horseshit.

    He's a good teammate and dedicated to being a better player.

    Z

    All reports were that he was good in the locker room and a positive guy to be around this season.

    He's also someone who didn't seem to know where to line up many times, and would run routes that didn't exist. 

    He, IMO, is not the type of player who will help change the culture of the Browns into one that is a professional one. 

  • N Neo

    This is the last thing I am going to say on this topic.

    For as long as I can remember, you don't put hands on an officer. YOU DON'T PUT HANDS ON AN OFFICER. Every time I've seen it in real life or on TV, nine times out 10 you are going to jail. Odell fucked up plain and simple. I don't want to hear about the circumstances, Odell fucked up.

    @neo said:

    This is the last thing I am going to say on this topic.

    For as long as I can remember, you don't put hands on an officer. YOU DON'T PUT HANDS ON AN OFFICER. Every time I've seen it in real life or on TV, nine times out 10 you are going to jail. Odell fucked up plain and simple. I don't want to hear about the circumstances, Odell fucked up.

    .......and it was recorded and went viral as the Cleveland Browns player OBJ and now it's everything OBJ and brings out the "what's wrong with the Cleveland Browns ?"

    First it's what's wrong with Mayfield then the dumb-dumb Garrett, then it's the BROWNS fire another coach now that the season is over we carry over with OBJ being OBJ.

    GO BROWNS, never a dull moment, baby !

  • Zombo said:

    Why are you saying officer?

    He was a security guard.

    Zombo

    Many security guards are police officers that are moonlighting.

    Not sure if this specific security guard is though. 

  • Zombo said:

    It depends on the coach.  Tomlin kept Antonio Brown in check for 8 fucking years. If Stef wants to win, he handle the personalities and be firm but treat them like adults.

    Z

    With the 2020 Browns 1. Discipline 2. Character better be dealt with unless they want to do more coaching searches.  

    Kitchens was everybody's buddy and it got away from him fast.

  • Zombo said:

    Why are you saying officer?

    He was a security guard.

    Zombo

    Many security guards are police officers that are moonlighting.

    Not sure if this specific security guard is though. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Many security guards are police officers that are moonlighting.

    Not sure if this specific security guard is though. 

    Beat me to it. Many places where I live hire off duty and part time officers to moonlight as security. The video is too blurry, I was trying to read the patch on his uniform. Badge, gun, gun belt, handcuffs, radio, sure looks like a cop to me.

  • Zombo said:

    He's a security guard, and ya'll have lost your minds. There's guys playing who have beat their wives and abused their kids. Our goofy guy gets drunk when his team wins the National Championship and hands out money and snacks a security guard on the butt.  Correct except he's the attention seeking and grabbing OBJ

    He's a really good wide receiver.  He was 26 in yardage and 28 in receptions, but he does have to share numbers with Landry.

    It's going to be a long offseason.  It already is, and the Draft isn't until late April.

    Z

    I just want to know what happens from here, does the FO and HC take back control of the 6-10 BROWNS and do things the right way?

    Does OBJ just cool it for awhile and try to stay off of p.1 of the news and return as the most dangerous WR in the NFL ......or not?

  • Zombo said:

    Everyone keeps saying he was 26th or whatever. I assume Landry was higher? So we have two guys in the Top 32 ... isnt that good?

    We have 99 problems, OBJ ass-slapping ain't one of them.

    Z

    For the record Landry was 10 in yards 18 in catches and that was with an early bad passing game and bad OL throughout.  ALSO they have a great RB combo which is good.

    OBJ still has more problems as a teammate besides ass slapping some dude.  ABrown was a headcase but produced on the field  OBJ needs to do that without disrupting the team goals, they sure pay him enough to say  "yes sir" once in awhile and cool it.

    Think they can go 8-8 next year? They'll need everyone on board to do that.

  • Anthony Lima on 92.3 summed OBJ up (IMO) perfectly this morning... He isn't a horrible person, not at all. 

    With him, it's a "death by a thousand cuts" situation. 

    It's always going to be something with him. If it's not this, it will be that. 

    Winning football games isn't the #1 priority with him. It just isn't. 

  • From Terry Pluto......

    Terry in his tactful way........

    I’m not suggesting they address this question immediately. But they do need to deal with it before training camp opens in July:

    What to do with Odell Beckham Jr.?

    At his opening press conference, Stefanski delivered the terrific line of “Personality is welcome, production is required.”

    Beckham delivers personality, especially an obsessive need to draw attention to himself. Then he wonders, “Why is everyone paying attention to me?”

    The Browns will have to measure that against his possible production in 2020.

  • @calfoxwc said:

     and it's an excellent deep draft for wr's.

    Soon it's just going to be easier for you to list the positions in which this draft is not "excellent deep".

    @neo said:

    ... yes it is.

    Only if the restaurant is in a locker room full of kids who just won the Natty...

    @d-bone said:

    Today's society Nero....

    Your kids are going to turn out just fine Nero. 

    You were quoting Neo, not Nero...

    Get the name right next time, D Boe...

    @tour2ma said:

    Soon it's just going to be easier for you to list the positions in which this draft is not "excellent deep".

    sorry, left off the "ly". How about "INCREDIBLY DEEP" at wr? which, is only the second group I mentioned as being deep....

    2020 NFL Draft: Ranking the Incredibly Deep Wide Receiver ...

    https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/nfl-draft-receivers-ranked-2020-jerry-jeudy-ceedee...
      1. Jerry Jeudy, Alabama. Jeudy is clearly the best receiver in this year's draft and probably the most …
      2. CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma. Lamb is the draft's best big-play threat and would fit well on any team …
      3. Henry Ruggs III, Alabama. Ruggs is one of the fastest players I've ever watched on film. He's got …
      4. Tee Higgins, Clemson. Higgins' stock has dropped a bit this season, but he's a big target at 6-foot-4 …
       
      How about "special" ???

      The NFL’s 2020 Wide Receiver Class Already Looks Special

      https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/9/27/20886362/2020-nfl-draft-wide-receiver-class

      Sep 27, 2019 · The NFL’s 2020 Wide Receiver Class Already Looks Special Headlined by Jerry Jeudy and a number of other first-round talents, this class of pass catchers is poised to define April’s draft.

      or, Tour, maybe I should have used the word "loaded"

      2020 NFL Draft: Previewing wide receiver class full of ...

      https://nflspinzone.com/2019/06/08/nfl-draft-2020-wide-receiver-stars-preview

      After a 2019 NFL Draft that was absent of an unquestioned, elite pass catcher, the 2020 NFL Draft is loaded with viable early Round 1 wide receiver targets. With the 2019 NFL Draft now completed, it is time to turn all draft pundits’ attention to a glimpse of what the 2020 NFL Draft …

      well, crap, Tour, I could have used "HISTORIC" but that might have upset ya?

      The 2020 WR Class Could Truly Be Historic | The Draft Network

      https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/the-2020-wr-class-could-truly-be-historic

      There are more than a handful of wide receivers who are among the best in college football and aren't even draft eligible yet, and that lends towards us cheating and peaking into the distant future a bit. These are the names you likely already know who might make the 2020 wide receiver class the best we've seen since 2014.