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  • @tour2ma said:

    Hue's "trust me" comment was made prior to the season and repeated on Sept. 20, 2016 prior to Kess' first start . So according to you he preemptively "took a bullet?"

    I'm saying he was actually being a team guy and presenting a unified front. It might have been the only time. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm saying he was actually being a team guy and presenting a unified front. It might have been the only time.

    Fair enough... especially since it was in public.

    Also might have been the only pick he fully embraced.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm saying he was actually being a team guy and presenting a unified front. It might have been the only time.

    Fair enough... especially since it was in public.

    Also might have been the only pick he fully embraced.

    @tour2ma said:

    Fair enough... also might have been the only pick he fully embraced.

    I don't know.... it seemed like Hue couldn't wait to get him off the field, and Kessler didn't play that poorly. If I remember correctly Hue seemed perpetually irritated with Kessler because he would never throw the ball downfield. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Fair enough... also might have been the only pick he fully embraced.

    I don't know.... it seemed like Hue couldn't wait to get him off the field, and Kessler didn't play that poorly. If I remember correctly Hue seemed perpetually irritated with Kessler because he would never throw the ball downfield. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    If I remember correctly Hue seemed perpetually irritated with Kessler because he would never throw the ball downfield. 

    And you remember right... but I also remember the lil fist pump when the pick was made. Hue liked the kid, but he was never going to be a fit for the vertical game Hue loved.

    And that goes to the point I made about Hue not tweaking his Offense to fit any of the QBs that played for him in CLE.

  • @nickers said:

    You look at the fact Hue sucked in Oakland , before he got to Cleveland... That's all you need to know...

    8-8 means "Hue sucked"? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    8-8 means "Hue sucked"? 

    right.....obviously a case of Fool's Gold.

  • When you have THE worst record as a HC in NFL for anyone who did not own the team you tarnish your own career by being such a terrible coach.  Had nothing to do with Cleveland.

    @the-gipper said:

    When you have THE worst record as a HC in NFL for anyone who did not own the team you tarnish your own career by being such a terrible coach.  Had nothing to do with Cleveland.

    Exactly. The guy was horrible 

  • @the-gipper said:

    When you have THE worst record as a HC in NFL for anyone who did not own the team you tarnish your own career by being such a terrible coach.  Had nothing to do with Cleveland.

    Exactly. The guy was horrible 

    @browns149 said:

    Exactly. The guy was horrible 

    Now let's give him a little credit. He did tweak JFF right off the team without so much as a looksie.

  • @the-gipper said:

    When you have THE worst record as a HC in NFL for anyone who did not own the team you tarnish your own career by being such a terrible coach.  Had nothing to do with Cleveland.

    Exactly. The guy was horrible 

    @browns149 said:

    Exactly. The guy was horrible 

    His niche was as an OC on OK teams at best.   (where is he now?)

    Year Age Level Employer Role
    2007 42 NFL Atlanta Falcons Offensive Coordinator
    2008 43 NFL Baltimore Ravens Quarterbacks
    2009 44 NFL Baltimore Ravens Quarterbacks
    2010 45 NFL Oakland Raiders Offensive Coordinator
    2011 46 NFL Oakland Raiders Head Coach
    2012 47 NFL Cincinnati Bengals Secondary
    2013 48 NFL Cincinnati Bengals Running Backs
    2014 49 NFL Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Coordinator
    2015 50 NFL Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Coordinator
    2016 51 NFL Cleveland Browns Head Coach....the AWFUL years !
    2017 52 NFL Cleveland Browns Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator
    2018 53 NFL Cleveland Browns Head Coach..... finally ADIOS !
  • @browns149 said:

    Exactly. The guy was horrible 

    Now let's give him a little credit. He did tweak JFF right off the team without so much as a looksie.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Now let's give him a little credit. He did tweak JFF right off the team without so much as a looksie.

    It didn’t take a brain surgeon to pull off that move. Johnny ran himself off the team 

  • @browns149 said:

    Exactly. The guy was horrible 

    Now let's give him a little credit. He did tweak JFF right off the team without so much as a looksie.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Now let's give him a little credit. He did tweak JFF right off the team without so much as a looksie.

    Why? He did not have control of the 53-man roster.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Now let's give him a little credit. He did tweak JFF right off the team without so much as a looksie.

    Why? He did not have control of the 53-man roster.

    @tour2ma said:

    Why? He did not have control of the 53-man roster.

    But I distinctly remember him making it clear JM would not be welcome on the team regardless. Didn't even want to talk to him.

  • Hue "I Felt The Earth Move Beneath My Feet When I Watched Someone Named Robert Griffin" Jackson is.. shocked anyone blames him for sucking?