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really do not see a way they could stop him
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really do not see a way they could stop him
Take him aside put your arm around him and whisper in his ear "Dude did you forget the Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns?"
That might work.
WS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Take him aside put your arm around him and whisper in his ear "Dude did you forget the Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns?"
That might work.
WS
...and if it doesn't, why would we want anyone stupid enough to come and work for Jimmuh after being warned?
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Take him aside put your arm around him and whisper in his ear "Dude did you forget the Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns?"
That might work.
WS
...and if it doesn't, why would we want anyone stupid enough to come and work for Jimmuh after being warned?
...and if it doesn't, why would we want anyone stupid enough to come and work for Jimmuh after being warned?
Well somebody's going to take the job.
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WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Take him aside put your arm around him and whisper in his ear "Dude did you forget the Jimmy Haslam owns the Browns?"
That might work.
WS
That would be the most Brownsish thing to happen... and then have to scramble way after the fact to come up with a DCoordinator.
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Either you do it right, or you don't do it.
Haste makes waste.
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The Ohio Coaching list is maddening...
Paul Brown- Norwalk,OH
Don Shula-Grand River,OH
Chuck Noll-Cleveland,OH
Ara Parseghian-Akron,OH
Woody Hayes-Arrington,OH
Bo Schembechler & Josh McDaniels- Barberton,OH
John & Jim Harbaugh & Urban Meyer-Toledo,OH
Jon Gruden-Sandusky,OH
Jim Tressell-Mentor,OH
Bob Stoops-Youngstown,OH
Les Myles-Elyria,OH
Ron Zook-Ashland,OH
Dean Pees-Dunkirk,OH
Dom Capers-Cambridge,OH
Dick LeBeau-London,OH
Sean McVay-Dayton,OH
All born in Ohio coaches... and there has to be a long list of Who I am still missing? ? Anywho? W0W! Paul Brown..You THe Man!!
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
John Mackovic former Chiefs HC. As well as Texas Longhorns. From Barberton
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Well somebody's going to take the job.
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WSS
Yup. It just seems that we're doomed to this hell......until the Halsams finally sell.
But that won't happen because he's giving up his Pilot Flying Circus. The team is going to be 'it'.
I'd be interested to know just what happened with Paton. Did he pull his name because all that time went by and Haslam didn't make an offer? - Did he tell Haslam at the 2nd interview that he needed a couple of days to think it over? And then came to his senses...err, I mean, decided to stay put?
And meanwhile we've had a bunch of potential lame ducks working Senior Bowl Week. But there's no rush....because....they're going to get it 'right' this time. (pretend that was in pink)
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Well somebody's going to take the job.
?
WSS
Yup. It just seems that we're doomed to this hell......until the Halsams finally sell.
But that won't happen because he's giving up his Pilot Flying Circus. The team is going to be 'it'.
I'd be interested to know just what happened with Paton. Did he pull his name because all that time went by and Haslam didn't make an offer? - Did he tell Haslam at the 2nd interview that he needed a couple of days to think it over? And then came to his senses...err, I mean, decided to stay put?
And meanwhile we've had a bunch of potential lame ducks working Senior Bowl Week. But there's no rush....because....they're going to get it 'right' this time. (pretend that was in pink)
Yup. It just seems that we're doomed to this hell......until the Halsams finally sell.
But that won't happen because he's giving up his Pilot Flying Circus. The team is going to be 'it'.
I'd be interested to know just what happened with Paton. Did he pull his name because all that time went by and Haslam didn't make an offer? - Did he tell Haslam at the 2nd interview that he needed a couple of days to think it over? And then came to his senses...err, I mean, decided to stay put?
And meanwhile we've had a bunch of potential lame ducks working Senior Bowl Week. But there's no rush....because....they're going to get it 'right' this time. (pretend that was in pink)
I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
For you Ohio rock and roll fans there's a guy named Mark Chatfield very good guitarist from the Columbus area that was Bob Seger's guitar player on the road. He wasn't a member of the band that recorded as the Silver Bullet Band had absolutely no input except to play the parts exactly as he was told in live performances. While I'm sure that was fun for a little bit eventually it was just frustrating and he quit.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
really do not see a way they could stop him
That's what they said about the Titanic before someone couldn't see the gigantic glacier that sunk it.
Kyle Shanahan could tell him exactly what it was like to work for the worst owner in the NFL so a promising coaching career doesn't sink before it has a chance to launch. And the sad part of that was we actually got off to a 7-4 start nobody saw coming the year Shanahan was here before the FO body by Jimmy sank the ship (ending the year with 5 straight losses). Shanahan was smart enough to leave and help Atlanta make it to the Superbowl. Meanwhile Pettine-TheDawg and company all stuck around for inevitable 3-13 season to follow. Let's do the math, after 7-4 start - FO interventions led to 3-18 football the rest of the way. Any chance of a promising football culture to follow had veterans dreaming of greener pastures elsewhere.
As we speak, Jimmy still thinks it's a great idea to stick with too many chiefs and not enough indians. Even worse, the chiefs never seem to have any clear concise job descriptions to adhere to. Causing what? Piss poor working relationships and mistrust. The ingredients of why this franchise has had 7 HC changes since Jimmy took over have not changed reminding great candidates to ask what changes the owner has made to the set-up. And here we are....
Poor Stefansky! He seems like a likable and devoted, hard working guy coming here with great intentions.
Do we need coaches and a GM or an Exorcist here?
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I laughed when I saw this under the comments section of that article:
"What a grease fire they are, and I'll admit, it's fun to watch.
Hire a guy for HC that literally no one else was even remotely interested in, with no experience running a team on any level, to run what was/is a dysfunctional group of players, just cuz he embraces analytics, and is tight with the analytics based (whatever his title is) DePodesta. Their top pick for "GM" who also embraces their methods doesn't want anything to do with them cuz of their effed up power/decision making structure headed by the owner, his wife...and their son-in-law VP.... did I read that right? LMAO, that sounds like the premise to a low budget cheesy comedy movie.
I don't think I've ever seen a combination of hubris and dysfunction quite like this before. Anybody who's part of that crowd who seem to think analytics is the solution to everything should be really nervous about what this is going to do to their cause, at least in football anyway." -
BTW I think we will get to see how this organization is functioning during FA signings and the Draft. Especially be interesting to see where the drafted players have landed in our BB Draft thread we do every year.
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The Ohio Coaching list is maddening...
Paul Brown- Norwalk,OH
Don Shula-Grand River,OH
Chuck Noll-Cleveland,OH
Ara Parseghian-Akron,OH
Woody Hayes-Arrington,OH
Bo Schembechler & Josh McDaniels- Barberton,OH
John & Jim Harbaugh & Urban Meyer-Toledo,OH
Jon Gruden-Sandusky,OH
Jim Tressell-Mentor,OH
Bob Stoops-Youngstown,OH
Les Myles-Elyria,OH
Ron Zook-Ashland,OH
Dean Pees-Dunkirk,OH
Dom Capers-Cambridge,OH
Dick LeBeau-London,OH
Sean McVay-Dayton,OH
All born in Ohio coaches... and there has to be a long list of Who I am still missing? ? Anywho? W0W! Paul Brown..You THe Man!!
The Ohio Coaching list is maddening...
Paul Brown- Norwalk,OH
Don Shula-Grand River,OH
Chuck Noll-Cleveland,OH
Ara Parseghian-Akron,OH
Woody Hayes-Arrington,OH
Bo Schembechler & Josh McDaniels- Barberton,OH
John & Jim Harbaugh & Urban Meyer-Toledo,OH
Jon Gruden-Sandusky,OH
Jim Tressell-Mentor,OH
Bob Stoops-Youngstown,OH
Les Myles-Elyria,OH
Ron Zook-Ashland,OH
Dean Pees-Dunkirk,OH
Dom Capers-Cambridge,OH
Dick LeBeau-London,OH
Sean McVay-Dayton,OH
All born in Ohio coaches... and there has to be a long list of Who I am still missing? ? Anywho? W0W! Paul Brown..You THe Man!!
Many of these guys have ties to my alma mater Miami University, aka “the cradle of coaches.” Hell, l didn’t even know Sean McVay went there until glancing at the below link. Kinda odd a school that hasn’t been known for its football program for many many years cranks out so many great coaches, but the list is impressive.
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Yup. It just seems that we're doomed to this hell......until the Halsams finally sell.
But that won't happen because he's giving up his Pilot Flying Circus. The team is going to be 'it'.
I'd be interested to know just what happened with Paton. Did he pull his name because all that time went by and Haslam didn't make an offer? - Did he tell Haslam at the 2nd interview that he needed a couple of days to think it over? And then came to his senses...err, I mean, decided to stay put?
And meanwhile we've had a bunch of potential lame ducks working Senior Bowl Week. But there's no rush....because....they're going to get it 'right' this time. (pretend that was in pink)
I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
For you Ohio rock and roll fans there's a guy named Mark Chatfield very good guitarist from the Columbus area that was Bob Seger's guitar player on the road. He wasn't a member of the band that recorded as the Silver Bullet Band had absolutely no input except to play the parts exactly as he was told in live performances. While I'm sure that was fun for a little bit eventually it was just frustrating and he quit.
WSS
I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
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I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
And I'm guessing you didn't have to clear those solos with the bar owner? ?
WSS
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