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Yup. It just seems that we're doomed to this hell......until the Halsams finally sell.
But that won't happen because he's giving up his Pilot Flying Circus. The team is going to be 'it'.
I'd be interested to know just what happened with Paton. Did he pull his name because all that time went by and Haslam didn't make an offer? - Did he tell Haslam at the 2nd interview that he needed a couple of days to think it over? And then came to his senses...err, I mean, decided to stay put?
And meanwhile we've had a bunch of potential lame ducks working Senior Bowl Week. But there's no rush....because....they're going to get it 'right' this time. (pretend that was in pink)
I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
For you Ohio rock and roll fans there's a guy named Mark Chatfield very good guitarist from the Columbus area that was Bob Seger's guitar player on the road. He wasn't a member of the band that recorded as the Silver Bullet Band had absolutely no input except to play the parts exactly as he was told in live performances. While I'm sure that was fun for a little bit eventually it was just frustrating and he quit.
WSS
I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
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I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
And I'm guessing you didn't have to clear those solos with the bar owner? ?
WSS
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Can't imagine it would be that hard. At least to maintain the success we've had for the last many years.
WSS
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thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?
Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info?
A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room?
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B.) Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?
Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?
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thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?
Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info?
A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room?
--OR---
B.) Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?
Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?
thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?
Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info?
A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room?
--OR---
B.) Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?
Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?
No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience.
WSS
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thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?
Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info?
A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room?
--OR---
B.) Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?
Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?
No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience.
WSS
No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience.
WSS
The problem comes down to this with the Haslams in charge.
Last man standing takes the cash. ?
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Well shit.
WSS
Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??
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Well shit.
WSS
Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??
Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??
...can't possibly be the plan THIS time. We have too many good players that would need to be axed. Let's hope that all of those lousy player decisions belonged to Sashi.
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Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??
...can't possibly be the plan THIS time. We have too many good players that would need to be axed. Let's hope that all of those lousy player decisions belonged to Sashi.
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I guess ignorance is bliss...
Well it was either a decision by committee or one guy takes the blame.
As long as we're stuck with Berry I hope somebody else took the blame.
WSS
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49ers’ Joe Woods expects ‘seamless transition’ to Browns DC; Excited to join Kevin Stefanski if it works out
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So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
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So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
What does "in any capacity" mean? "At any level"?
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
Actually he was OC in BUF under Jauron during his last season asHC... so I guess that makes him "the experienced one."
Decent rush attack, but nada for a pass game under Trent Edwards.
T.O. was on the team tho, so he's had practice handling "personalities".
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So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
With one of the youngest rosters in the league.
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So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
To add to others, Joe Woods WAS a DC in Denver.
Dutch, obviously your research prior to the post could have used analytics to assure your information was correct.
Mike
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Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed
#1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy *HIRED- Dallas*
#2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman lost to Titans as #1 seed 1-11-20
#3.Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy
#4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh Won vs. Wildcard Vikings 1-11-20
#5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)
#6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz 1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge
#7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski Lost at San Fran as Wildcard 1-11-20 *BROWNS HIRE* 1-12-20
#8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels Interviewed 7 hrs. with no deal 1-10-20
Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..
Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20
GM interviews start on 1-17-20..
#1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20)
#3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd interview in Cleveland Wednesday
1-22-20.. Edit: George Paton removes himself as a GM candidate on Friday 1-24-20 ?..
Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job.
**#1 Hired..on 1-28-20 Andrew Berry inks 5 year deal as VP of football Operations & GM** Berry's first day on the job brings a hiring of a FB off Vikings IR release list.
Berry's 2nd day on job, brings Eliot Wolf/asst gm & Alonzo Highsmith/VP PP & head of College Scouting to their jobs endings..All parties claim to disagree with the future analynic path..3 of the parties agree on Stepping Down..
COACHING STAFF HIRES
#1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20
1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff
#2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman
#4) RB's- Stump Mitchell
#5. 1 year Former Vikings WR coach Drew Petzing becomes Browns TE Coach ? (browns intern 2013..At Vikings, held 4 different coaching positions in 4 years)
Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed
#1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy *HIRED- Dallas*
#2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman lost to Titans as #1 seed 1-11-20
#3.Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy
#4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh Won vs. Wildcard Vikings 1-11-20
#5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)
#6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz 1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge
#7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski Lost at San Fran as Wildcard 1-11-20 *BROWNS HIRE* 1-12-20
#8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels Interviewed 7 hrs. with no deal 1-10-20
Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..
Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20
GM interviews start on 1-17-20..
#1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20)
#3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd interview in Cleveland Wednesday
1-22-20.. Edit: George Paton removes himself as a GM candidate on Friday 1-24-20 ?..
Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job.
**#1 Hired..on 1-28-20 Andrew Berry inks 5 year deal as VP of football Operations & GM**
Berry's first day on the job brings a hiring of a FB off Vikings IR release list. Johnny Stanton
Berry's 2nd day on job, brings Eliot Wolf/asst gm & Alonzo Highsmith/VP PP.. And head of College Scouting, Scott Malin to their jobs endings..All parties claim to disagree with the future analynic path..3 of the parties agree on Stepping Down..
COACHING STAFF HIRES
#1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20
1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff
#2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman
#4) RB's- Stump Mitchell
#5) OL/Off.Asst- Bill Callahan (rumored, see nothing confirmed..EdIT--1-31-20- Callahan officially signs on as Browns OL coach)
#6. 1 year Former Vikings WR coach Drew Petzing becomes Browns TE Coach ? (browns intern 2013..At Vikings, held 4 different coaching positions in 4 years)
#7) OC-Alex Van Pelt-- last seasons Bengals QB Coach
#8) DB Coach-Jeff Howard (just added overnight)
OTHER--1-31-20-K. Stefanski adds a female, to a Chief of Staff position..former Bills intern Callie Brownson
Here's the update we have tracked^^..Please, if ya see anything wrong? Shout them out.. i try to keep post #2 updated as they happen..
and here's a new Cleveland local tracker https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-staff-tracker-see-how-the-browns-coaching-staff-looks-so-far.html seems to update well also
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
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Next: I will keep a updated list of Browns interviewees in order of interviewed
#1.Mike McCarthy (open) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-mike-mccarthy *HIRED- Dallas*
#2.Greg Roman (Ravens OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-greg-roman lost to Titans as #1 seed 1-11-20
#3.Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-eric-bieniemy
#4.Robert Saleh (49'ers DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-robert-saleh Won vs. Wildcard Vikings 1-11-20
#5. Ryan Daboll (Bills OC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-ryan-daboll McCarthy hired in Dallas same day interviewed Daboll (1-6-20)
#6. Jim Schwartz (Philly DC) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-jim-schwartz 1 day before interview, Rhule to Panthers/ NYG hire J.Judge
#7. Kevin Stefanski (OC Vikings) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski Lost at San Fran as Wildcard 1-11-20 *BROWNS HIRE* 1-12-20
#8. Josh McDaniels (OC Patriots) https://clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-josh-mcdaniels Interviewed 7 hrs. with no deal 1-10-20
Stefanski later in week, won wildcard game, on to 9'ers Saturday..day pending(Thursday 1-9-20 in Minn.) ..
Josh McDaniel's. loss to Titans Sunday. confirmed for this Friday(as of 1-6-20)>>Friday 1-10-20..Pats. Exit meetings till Weds..was to interview at Panthers Weds 1-8-20..was to interview at NYG Thursday 1-9-20..interviewed at nether due to both teams hiring coaches Tuesday 1-7-20
GM interviews start on 1-17-20..
#1.Philly's Andrew Berry & #2) Patriots Monti Ossenfort interviewed on a Friday..(neither hired as of 1-19-20)
#3.George Paton (Asst.GM Vikings) interviewed in Minnesota Sunday 1-19-20// a 2nd interview in Cleveland Wednesday
1-22-20.. Edit: George Paton removes himself as a GM candidate on Friday 1-24-20 ?..
Berry a day before interview announces he is also a candidate for Panthers GM job.
**#1 Hired..on 1-28-20 Andrew Berry inks 5 year deal as VP of football Operations & GM**
Berry's first day on the job brings a hiring of a FB off Vikings IR release list. Johnny Stanton
Berry's 2nd day on job, brings Eliot Wolf/asst gm & Alonzo Highsmith/VP PP.. And head of College Scouting, Scott Malin to their jobs endings..All parties claim to disagree with the future analynic path..3 of the parties agree on Stepping Down..
COACHING STAFF HIRES
#1) Chad O'Shea.. Former Dolphins OC becomes Browns WR Coach on 1-19-20
1-22-20 Stefanski announces he will retain 3 coaches from previous staff
#2) Mike Priefer ST #3) ST Asst.-Doug Colman
#4) RB's- Stump Mitchell
#5) OL/Off.Asst- Bill Callahan (rumored, see nothing confirmed..EdIT--1-31-20- Callahan officially signs on as Browns OL coach)
#6. 1 year Former Vikings WR coach Drew Petzing becomes Browns TE Coach ? (browns intern 2013..At Vikings, held 4 different coaching positions in 4 years)
#7) OC-Alex Van Pelt-- last seasons Bengals QB Coach
#8) DB Coach-Jeff Howard (just added overnight)
OTHER--1-31-20-K. Stefanski adds a female, to a Chief of Staff position..former Bills intern Callie Brownson
Here's the update we have tracked^^..Please, if ya see anything wrong? Shout them out.. i try to keep post #2 updated as they happen..
and here's a new Cleveland local tracker https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-staff-tracker-see-how-the-browns-coaching-staff-looks-so-far.html seems to update well also
Here's the update we have tracked^^..Please, if ya see anything wrong? Shout them out.. i try to keep post #2 updated as they happen..
and here's a new Cleveland local tracker https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/kevin-stefanski-staff-tracker-see-how-the-browns-coaching-staff-looks-so-far.html seems to update well also
And here's what other teams are trying- and a pretty objective view of Stefansky...
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