Kobe Bryant Killed in Helicopter Crash
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Too many young lives gone at once. Very sad indeed.
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The only thing that puzzles me is all the little fragments of the helicopter all over the place like a bomb went off or a missile hit it (and no I'm not trying to make this a conspiracy) Somebody mentioned that someone said the engine was cutting out, the thing must have dropped out of the sky and free falled from thousands of feet. Can't imagine there would be any remains left after the fire.
Such a terrible way to go out. May god have mercy on all the souls aboard that aircraft.
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The only thing that puzzles me is all the little fragments of the helicopter all over the place like a bomb went off or a missile hit it (and no I'm not trying to make this a conspiracy) Somebody mentioned that someone said the engine was cutting out, the thing must have dropped out of the sky and free falled from thousands of feet. Can't imagine there would be any remains left after the fire.
Such a terrible way to go out. May god have mercy on all the souls aboard that aircraft.
The only thing that puzzles me is all the little fragments of the helicopter all over the place like a bomb went off or a missile hit it (and no I'm not trying to make this a conspiracy) Somebody mentioned that someone said the engine was cutting out, the thing must have dropped out of the sky and free falled from thousands of feet. Can't imagine there would be any remains left after the fire.
Such a terrible way to go out. May god have mercy on all the souls aboard that aircraft.
It may not have come in clean, & come apart as it scraped the ground, or the chopper exploded on impact (possible). The other thing that may have been a factor is the weather. It was foggy- so foggy the LAPD had grounded all their choppers. For those of you who know about aviation- the control towers had suspended VFR- visual flight rules. The pilot was apparently allowed to proceed under SVFR- special visual flight rules, and told to stay under 2,500'. If those hills were higher than that- oh well, never saw it coming until it was too late. If the visibility was 500' and he was flying at 150mph- allowing for reaction time, the pilot had a tad over a second to pull up. When I have time later I'll post a personal experience I had many years ago encountering crash parts of a plane in a similar situation....
I agree- when the chopper burned- all aboard got a free cremation service. probably not much left.
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This from 2017
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I lived in Los Angeles for a few years and even in NoCAL people all around are morning Kobe. I feel much worse for his daughter and kids because at least Kobe got to live.
It's a horrible situation and makes you realize how short and precious the time we have is.
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There were 5 others that died too....
Yeah I keep hearing people say that but the truth is nobody cares. People die every day that are not noteworthy. Does anyone remember who else was killed in the plane crash that killed buddy Holly and Richie Valens? How about Ronnie van zant? Jim Croce? No? Then shut up. I mean when referencing the princess Diana car crash does anyone go "hey, guys, remember her driver died too."
No. They don't.
Kobe was an all time great. Let people remember him without some snide crap remark.
Yeah I keep hearing people say that but the truth is nobody cares. People die every day that are not noteworthy. Does anyone remember who else was killed in the plane crash that killed buddy Holly and Richie Valens? How about Ronnie van zant? Jim Croce? No? Then shut up. I mean when referencing the princess Diana car crash does anyone go "hey, guys, remember her driver died too."
No. They don't.
Kobe was an all time great. Let people remember him without some snide crap remark.
Ok..lets not pretend he was gods gift to athletes...another Ben Rothlesberger who outlived peoples memories...you probably love ray rice too.
Sad for everyone involved..but i wonder how the woman he assaulted feels?
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The only thing that puzzles me is all the little fragments of the helicopter all over the place like a bomb went off or a missile hit it (and no I'm not trying to make this a conspiracy) Somebody mentioned that someone said the engine was cutting out, the thing must have dropped out of the sky and free falled from thousands of feet. Can't imagine there would be any remains left after the fire.
Such a terrible way to go out. May god have mercy on all the souls aboard that aircraft.
The only thing that puzzles me is all the little fragments of the helicopter all over the place like a bomb went off or a missile hit it (and no I'm not trying to make this a conspiracy) Somebody mentioned that someone said the engine was cutting out, the thing must have dropped out of the sky and free falled from thousands of feet. Can't imagine there would be any remains left after the fire.
Such a terrible way to go out. May god have mercy on all the souls aboard that aircraft.
Did he have any dirt on the Clintons?
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Kvoethe gotta Kvoethe.
Kvoethe gotta Kvoethe.
Stalker gotta stalk
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Kvoethe gotta Kvoethe.
Stalker gotta stalk
Stalker gotta stalk
Stalking implies someone who goes out of their way to follow and watch someone.
You proudly post your idiotic, douchebag takes for the world to see.
*their
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Stalking implies someone who goes out of there way to follow and watch someone.
You proudly post your idiotic, douchebag takes for the world to see.
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Yeah I keep hearing people say that but the truth is nobody cares. People die every day that are not noteworthy. Does anyone remember who else was killed in the plane crash that killed buddy Holly and Richie Valens? How about Ronnie van zant? Jim Croce? No? Then shut up. I mean when referencing the princess Diana car crash does anyone go "hey, guys, remember her driver died too."
No. They don't.
Kobe was an all time great. Let people remember him without some snide crap remark.
Ok..lets not pretend he was gods gift to athletes...another Ben Rothlesberger who outlived peoples memories...you probably love ray rice too.
Sad for everyone involved..but i wonder how the woman he assaulted feels?
Ok..lets not pretend he was gods gift to athletes...another Ben Rothlesberger who outlived peoples memories...you probably love ray rice too.
Sad for everyone involved..but i wonder how the woman he assaulted feels?
I haven't forgotten that K, and FWIW- the victim got paid off- probably handsomely- to drop the charges. The payoff was sealed under court order in a civil suit. I'll leave you with one of the few things I remember from my Latin class.... "De mortuisti, nihil nisi bonum" Loosely translated- "Only say good things about someone who's dead"...
What's next- I'm glad that rapist went down in flames?
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The Weather Channel had- surprise! A nice detailed look at the weather. As one of the experts said- the odds of a twin engine helicopter having both engines simultaneously fail is about zero. BTW, the pilot was really experienced- Kobe had the bucks to hire the very best. The guy was IFR (instrument flight rules) qualified, and you have to pilot hundreds of hours in the air before you can take the test to get that level. They were supposed to eyeball Route 101 into Thousand Oaks. My theory they got lost in the fog, got off course, and crashed into a hill they didn't see is looking pretty good.
https://weather.com/news/news/2020-01-26-nba-star-kobe-bryant-killed-in-calabasas-helicopter-crash
PS checking Google Maps- their trip from Point A to Point B was around 80 miles, at least a 90 minute drive, 30 minutes or less in the air. Why drive when you can fly? I heard Kobe had issues spending a lot of time in a car because of injuries.
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The Weather Channel had- surprise! A nice detailed look at the weather. As one of the experts said- the odds of a twin engine helicopter having both engines simultaneously fail is about zero. BTW, the pilot was really experienced- Kobe had the bucks to hire the very best. The guy was IFR (instrument flight rules) qualified, and you have to pilot hundreds of hours in the air before you can take the test to get that level. They were supposed to eyeball Route 101 into Thousand Oaks. My theory they got lost in the fog, got off course, and crashed into a hill they didn't see is looking pretty good.
https://weather.com/news/news/2020-01-26-nba-star-kobe-bryant-killed-in-calabasas-helicopter-crash
PS checking Google Maps- their trip from Point A to Point B was around 80 miles, at least a 90 minute drive, 30 minutes or less in the air. Why drive when you can fly? I heard Kobe had issues spending a lot of time in a car because of injuries.
https://weather.com/news/news/2020-01-26-nba-star-kobe-bryant-killed-in-calabasas-helicopter-crash
Larry I'll send this to my two brothers who were IFR qualified pilots (youngest just retired from Net Jets) and a third friend who retired from Southwest a couple of years ago. Should be interesting to get their takes. I'm guessing they all say if you are flying IFR you are not supposed to be "eyeballing" anything but your instruments, which is why they call it instrument flight rules. From WIKI: "Rules and regulations established by the FAA to govern flight under conditions in which flight by outside visual reference is not safe."
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Yeah I keep hearing people say that but the truth is nobody cares. People die every day that are not noteworthy. Does anyone remember who else was killed in the plane crash that killed buddy Holly and Richie Valens? How about Ronnie van zant? Jim Croce? No? Then shut up. I mean when referencing the princess Diana car crash does anyone go "hey, guys, remember her driver died too."
No. They don't.
Kobe was an all time great. Let people remember him without some snide crap remark.
Ok..lets not pretend he was gods gift to athletes...another Ben Rothlesberger who outlived peoples memories...you probably love ray rice too.
Sad for everyone involved..but i wonder how the woman he assaulted feels?
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Here is what my just retired professional pilot brother had to say about the accident. He was a Gulfstream IV pilot (Captain) after several years as a B-52 pilot.
"Helicopters have slightly different rules. At my company we were required to stay under instruments to the maximum extent possible, even in good weather. It always useful to have an electronic pathway setup under visual conditions, even if just for proper orientation. It helps to avoid landing at the wrong airport or on the wrong runway. And to understand the radio chatter properly, or be able to quickly revert to instruments if asked. We used visual approaches sparingly and certainly not in those conditions.
However, helicopters have some unique approaches & departures at many airports. Still, since 80% of accidents are pilot error, I’d lean towards that explanation in this case. Certainly he was trying some iffy stuff. I never flew under “special visual flight rules” during my entire 42 years. I interpreted “special” as “less safe”. If I recall, my company didn’t let us use that option even when it was legal (nor would I have even if they asked me to). News reports say that’s what he was doing. But it’s too early for a determination." -
Ok..lets not pretend he was gods gift to athletes...another Ben Rothlesberger who outlived peoples memories...you probably love ray rice too.
Sad for everyone involved..but i wonder how the woman he assaulted feels?
I haven't forgotten that K, and FWIW- the victim got paid off- probably handsomely- to drop the charges. The payoff was sealed under court order in a civil suit. I'll leave you with one of the few things I remember from my Latin class.... "De mortuisti, nihil nisi bonum" Loosely translated- "Only say good things about someone who's dead"...
What's next- I'm glad that rapist went down in flames?
I haven't forgotten that K, and FWIW- the victim got paid off- probably handsomely- to drop the charges. The payoff was sealed under court order in a civil suit. I'll leave you with one of the few things I remember from my Latin class.... "De mortuisti, nihil nisi bonum" Loosely translated- "Only say good things about someone who's dead"...
What's next- I'm glad that rapist went down in flames?
What actually happened is she refused to testify in a criminal case and instead filed a civil suit where you can get paid, often just to go away.
I don't know, I'm not a woman but if I was and I got raped id want to nail the guy to the wall over it. Not just take a payoff.
This shit ain't nothing to me, man. -
I haven't forgotten that K, and FWIW- the victim got paid off- probably handsomely- to drop the charges. The payoff was sealed under court order in a civil suit. I'll leave you with one of the few things I remember from my Latin class.... "De mortuisti, nihil nisi bonum" Loosely translated- "Only say good things about someone who's dead"...
What's next- I'm glad that rapist went down in flames?
What actually happened is she refused to testify in a criminal case and instead filed a civil suit where you can get paid, often just to go away.
I don't know, I'm not a woman but if I was and I got raped id want to nail the guy to the wall over it. Not just take a payoff.
What actually happened is she refused to testify in a criminal case and instead filed a civil suit where you can get paid, often just to go away.
I don't know, I'm not a woman but if I was and I got raped id want to nail the guy to the wall over it. Not just take a payoff.
Can you go to court, get a conviction, and then file a civil suit?
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