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  • D BoneD D Bone

    For some reason, I have an image of Ron Burgundy drinking a beer stuck in my head. 

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    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    For some reason, I have an image of Ron Burgundy drinking a beer stuck in my head. 

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      He's been getting hammered by the media this week in every interview he has done. At least he has been willing to go out there and take it on the chin. Let's hope he puts the work in the offseason.

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        Yea, not looking buff for sure. That doesn't bother me in Jan., though. I'm glad to hear that he admits he was humbled. Step one. Now, do

        what he said and go to work and grind. Use last year as fuel, and talk less, work harder.

        fucking baker already said he will not use a QB coach during the off season that he knows what to work on

        really Baker ?

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        fucking baker already said he will not use a QB coach during the off season that he knows what to work on

        really Baker ?

        That's not good to hear. He was at his best when with the QB whisperer. I think it was Cowherd who said the further time apart from Riley the worse he gets. 

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          @icecube said:

          Yea, not looking buff for sure. That doesn't bother me in Jan., though. I'm glad to hear that he admits he was humbled. Step one. Now, do

          what he said and go to work and grind. Use last year as fuel, and talk less, work harder.

          fucking baker already said he will not use a QB coach during the off season that he knows what to work on

          really Baker ?

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          @atom said:

          fucking baker already said he will not use a QB coach during the off season that he knows what to work on

          really Baker ?

          I hope he reconsiders.... Most of you know I played competitive tennis on the collegiate level. FWIW every top pro tennis player has a coach- and it's pretty simple. You just can't self analyze yourself what you're doing wrong or how to improve. I don't give a damn how much tape you look at. Don't get arrogant Baker. 

          http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001100037/article/browns-qb-baker-mayfield-i-put-my-foot-in-my-mouth

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            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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            Put down the microphones, cameras, wings, and beer and get in the gym

            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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              Lay off the Kid.. He'll be fine... How many of you had your shit together at that age?... That's what I figured...

              Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Looks like he gained even more weight.

                You have to remember... The Camera makes people looks 20 lbs heavier than they actually are...

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                @nickers said:

                You have to remember... The Camera makes people looks 20 lbs heavier than they actually are...

                Exactly how many cameras are on him then? 

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                  Wishes in one hand...crap in the other...which fills first?

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                    @nickers said:

                    You have to remember... The Camera makes people looks 20 lbs heavier than they actually are...

                    Exactly how many cameras are on him then? 

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    Exactly how many cameras are on him then? 

                    Any available I imagine 😛

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                      I would say, last season has matured Baker quite a bit already.

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                        Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball. 

                        Don't get me wrong, I loved hearing what he said, but Baker missing high all year has nothing to do with his attention to social media. He needs to get his freaking stance corrected AND he needs a proper tight end. 

                        You don't set an NFL touchdown record by accident, so Baker can definitely play. Lots went wrong last year, and we probably should have known what to expect after week 1. I remember thinking, "Oh shit." 

                        Oh shit indeed, as Baker would go on to miss people in the end zone, lock onto targets preemptively, and generally be a football butthole of the highest order. What I don't know is how much of this disaster was our coach's fault. We were a shit show, even in most victories, and I want to believe a fresh start will greatly help our enigmatic QB. 

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                        Nothing unusual about gaining weight after getting married.

                        Been there, done that....

                        ... twice.

                        Fortunately the effects were not additive.

                        @jiggins7919 said:

                        Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball.

                        Yup... The internal fire that drove him to show up his detractors also fueled his mouth... which produced detractors... which fueled... etc. It was the perfect engine so long as the performance level was there. And then it wasn't...

                        I get the whole Humble Pie thing (Steve Marriott died way too young)... mending bridges... but that's all public image stuff designed more for his marketability, than his football. At least that's what his entire football history suggests. Did anyone see inner-determination in these latest interviews? Any intensity in his eyes? I didn't.

                        Can he reinvent himself? Find another source of inspiration? Anything is possible... but I don't think it's likely.

                        After we drafted Baker someone commented that sentiment here had shifted away from him being an asshole to which I replied, "Sure... because he's our asshole now." Hope I'm wrong, but I think there's a good chance that we will end up missing our asshole.

                        @nickers said:

                        Lay off the Kid.. He'll be fine... How many of you had your shit together at that age?... That's what I figured...

                        How is he going to be fine with going 2-14?

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                          now for something completely different 

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                            Nothing unusual about gaining weight after getting married.

                            Been there, done that....

                            ... twice.

                            Fortunately the effects were not additive.

                            @jiggins7919 said:

                            Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball.

                            Yup... The internal fire that drove him to show up his detractors also fueled his mouth... which produced detractors... which fueled... etc. It was the perfect engine so long as the performance level was there. And then it wasn't...

                            I get the whole Humble Pie thing (Steve Marriott died way too young)... mending bridges... but that's all public image stuff designed more for his marketability, than his football. At least that's what his entire football history suggests. Did anyone see inner-determination in these latest interviews? Any intensity in his eyes? I didn't.

                            Can he reinvent himself? Find another source of inspiration? Anything is possible... but I don't think it's likely.

                            After we drafted Baker someone commented that sentiment here had shifted away from him being an asshole to which I replied, "Sure... because he's our asshole now." Hope I'm wrong, but I think there's a good chance that we will end up missing our asshole.

                            @nickers said:

                            Lay off the Kid.. He'll be fine... How many of you had your shit together at that age?... That's what I figured...

                            How is he going to be fine with going 2-14?

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                            @tour2ma said:

                            Hope I'm wrong, but I think there's a good chance that we will end up missing our asshole.

                            Jesus, being a Browns fan is tough enough, now we'll have to deal with this?

                            Going to get real backed up.

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                              Nothing unusual about gaining weight after getting married.

                              Been there, done that....

                              ... twice.

                              Fortunately the effects were not additive.

                              @jiggins7919 said:

                              Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball.

                              Yup... The internal fire that drove him to show up his detractors also fueled his mouth... which produced detractors... which fueled... etc. It was the perfect engine so long as the performance level was there. And then it wasn't...

                              I get the whole Humble Pie thing (Steve Marriott died way too young)... mending bridges... but that's all public image stuff designed more for his marketability, than his football. At least that's what his entire football history suggests. Did anyone see inner-determination in these latest interviews? Any intensity in his eyes? I didn't.

                              Can he reinvent himself? Find another source of inspiration? Anything is possible... but I don't think it's likely.

                              After we drafted Baker someone commented that sentiment here had shifted away from him being an asshole to which I replied, "Sure... because he's our asshole now." Hope I'm wrong, but I think there's a good chance that we will end up missing our asshole.

                              @nickers said:

                              Lay off the Kid.. He'll be fine... How many of you had your shit together at that age?... That's what I figured...

                              How is he going to be fine with going 2-14?

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                              @tour2ma said:

                              Nothing unusual about gaining weight after getting married.

                              Been there, done that....

                              ... twice.

                              Fortunately the effects were not additive.

                              Yup... The internal fire that drove him to show up his detractors also fueled his mouth... which produced detractors... which fueled... etc. It was the perfect engine so long as the performance level was there. And then it wasn't...

                              I get the whole Humble Pie thing (Steve Marriott died way too young)... mending bridges... but that's all public image stuff designed more for his marketability, than his football. At least that's what his entire football history suggests. Did anyone see inner-determination in these latest interviews? Any intensity in his eyes? I didn't.

                              Can he reinvent himself? Find another source of inspiration? Anything is possible... but I don't think it's likely.

                              After we drafted Baker someone commented that sentiment here had shifted away from him being an asshole to which I replied, "Sure... because he's our asshole now." Hope I'm wrong, but I think there's a good chance that we will end up missing our asshole.

                              How is he going to be fine with going 2-14?

                              You tell me , Genius!

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                                  Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball. 

                                  Don't get me wrong, I loved hearing what he said, but Baker missing high all year has nothing to do with his attention to social media. He needs to get his freaking stance corrected AND he needs a proper tight end. 

                                  You don't set an NFL touchdown record by accident, so Baker can definitely play. Lots went wrong last year, and we probably should have known what to expect after week 1. I remember thinking, "Oh shit." 

                                  Oh shit indeed, as Baker would go on to miss people in the end zone, lock onto targets preemptively, and generally be a football butthole of the highest order. What I don't know is how much of this disaster was our coach's fault. We were a shit show, even in most victories, and I want to believe a fresh start will greatly help our enigmatic QB. 

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                                  @jiggins7919 said:

                                  Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball. 

                                  Don't get me wrong, I loved hearing what he said, but Baker missing high all year has nothing to do with his attention to social media. He needs to get his freaking stance corrected AND he needs a proper tight end. and a play in the huddle before 15 seconds are left, because he needs to tell OBJ where to line up 50% of the time.

                                  You don't set an NFL touchdown record by accident, so Baker can definitely play. Lots went wrong last year, and we probably should have known what to expect after week 1. I remember thinking, "Oh shit." 

                                  Oh shit indeed, as Baker would go on to miss people in the end zone, lock onto targets preemptively, and generally be a football butthole of the highest order. What I don't know is how much of this disaster was our coach's fault. We were a shit show, even in most victories, and I want to believe a fresh start will greatly help our enigmatic QB. 

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                                    Lay off the Kid.. He'll be fine... How many of you had your shit together at that age?... That's what I figured...

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                                    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @nickers said:

                                    Lay off the Kid.. He'll be fine... How many of you had your shit together at that age?... That's what I figured...

                                    Not me! ?

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                                      @jiggins7919 said:

                                      Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball. 

                                      Don't get me wrong, I loved hearing what he said, but Baker missing high all year has nothing to do with his attention to social media. He needs to get his freaking stance corrected AND he needs a proper tight end. and a play in the huddle before 15 seconds are left, because he needs to tell OBJ where to line up 50% of the time.

                                      You don't set an NFL touchdown record by accident, so Baker can definitely play. Lots went wrong last year, and we probably should have known what to expect after week 1. I remember thinking, "Oh shit." 

                                      Oh shit indeed, as Baker would go on to miss people in the end zone, lock onto targets preemptively, and generally be a football butthole of the highest order. What I don't know is how much of this disaster was our coach's fault. We were a shit show, even in most victories, and I want to believe a fresh start will greatly help our enigmatic QB. 

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                                      and a play in the huddle before 15 seconds are left, because he needs to tell OBJ where to line up 50% of the time.

                                      Yessssssss. 

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                                        Nothing unusual about gaining weight after getting married.

                                        Been there, done that....

                                        ... twice.

                                        Fortunately the effects were not additive.

                                        @jiggins7919 said:

                                        Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball.

                                        Yup... The internal fire that drove him to show up his detractors also fueled his mouth... which produced detractors... which fueled... etc. It was the perfect engine so long as the performance level was there. And then it wasn't...

                                        I get the whole Humble Pie thing (Steve Marriott died way too young)... mending bridges... but that's all public image stuff designed more for his marketability, than his football. At least that's what his entire football history suggests. Did anyone see inner-determination in these latest interviews? Any intensity in his eyes? I didn't.

                                        Can he reinvent himself? Find another source of inspiration? Anything is possible... but I don't think it's likely.

                                        After we drafted Baker someone commented that sentiment here had shifted away from him being an asshole to which I replied, "Sure... because he's our asshole now." Hope I'm wrong, but I think there's a good chance that we will end up missing our asshole.

                                        @nickers said:

                                        Lay off the Kid.. He'll be fine... How many of you had your shit together at that age?... That's what I figured...

                                        How is he going to be fine with going 2-14?

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Can he reinvent himself? Find another source of inspiration? Anything is possible... but I don't think it's likely.

                                        Baker is the kind of guy I would not bet against, and he's made a career out of proving people wrong. We will know exactly what kind of player he is after this season....one way or the other. 

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                                          Nothing unusual about gaining weight after getting married.

                                          Been there, done that....

                                          ... twice.

                                          Fortunately the effects were not additive.

                                          @jiggins7919 said:

                                          Soooooooo....lots of people were kind of hoping for something like this, and we got it. The problem is, Baker is wrong. He says he got here by keeping his head down and working. Well, that's somewhat true, but he got here by being brash, outspoken, and being deadly accurate with the effing ball.

                                          Yup... The internal fire that drove him to show up his detractors also fueled his mouth... which produced detractors... which fueled... etc. It was the perfect engine so long as the performance level was there. And then it wasn't...

                                          I get the whole Humble Pie thing (Steve Marriott died way too young)... mending bridges... but that's all public image stuff designed more for his marketability, than his football. At least that's what his entire football history suggests. Did anyone see inner-determination in these latest interviews? Any intensity in his eyes? I didn't.

                                          Can he reinvent himself? Find another source of inspiration? Anything is possible... but I don't think it's likely.

                                          After we drafted Baker someone commented that sentiment here had shifted away from him being an asshole to which I replied, "Sure... because he's our asshole now." Hope I'm wrong, but I think there's a good chance that we will end up missing our asshole.

                                          @nickers said:

                                          Lay off the Kid.. He'll be fine... How many of you had your shit together at that age?... That's what I figured...

                                          How is he going to be fine with going 2-14?

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                                          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Did anyone see inner-determination in these latest interviews? Any intensity in his eyes? I didn't.

                                          I thought this was an interesting observation. I don’t think it was determination or intensity that l was looking for in this interview setting, but Baker came off as ordinary and kinda boring in that first interview, like many athletes do. Saying what was expected of him and repeating himself. He really does have some panache but didn’t show it there.

                                          That’s why he gets speaking roles in commercials and Mahomes does not. 

                                          I’m not looking for that fire to go away, or whatever it is that makes Baker the cocky mofo that he is.  I just want it to evolve.

                                          Take that instance the last game where a Cincy fan was razzing him, and his response was “why don’t you tell me that to my face”? Yawn. There’s about a hundred things he coulda said that are wittier and more fun. “At least l don’t have to eat Skyline after the game.” 

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