XFL
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The NFL minor league and unless proped up will probably fade into obscurity with all of the others.....
The NFL minor league and unless proped up will probably fade into obscurity with all of the others.....
i kind of lost interest in these secondary football leagues when the usfl ....the one where sipe went to jacksonville....and it died...at least they had some nfl players that had a yr or 2 left in the gas tank......since then....eh, not interested....and if the nfl does not do something about these refs and some of the new rules, i may lose interest....getting close for me...i know alot of folks i grew up with stopped watching...so we talk about music mostly....
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The NFL minor league and unless proped up will probably fade into obscurity with all of the others.....
i kind of lost interest in these secondary football leagues when the usfl ....the one where sipe went to jacksonville....and it died...at least they had some nfl players that had a yr or 2 left in the gas tank......since then....eh, not interested....and if the nfl does not do something about these refs and some of the new rules, i may lose interest....getting close for me...i know alot of folks i grew up with stopped watching...so we talk about music mostly....
i kind of lost interest in these secondary football leagues when the usfl ....the one where sipe went to jacksonville....and it died...at least they had some nfl players that had a yr or 2 left in the gas tank......since then....eh, not interested....and if the nfl does not do something about these refs and some of the new rules, i may lose interest....getting close for me...i know alot of folks i grew up with stopped watching...so we talk about music mostly....
Yes. Since then they were novelty leagues even the indoor football league folded. The USFL looked promising but.....
http://www.espn.com/30for30/film/_/page/small-potatoes-who-killed-the-usfl
About Small Potatoes: Who Killed The USFL?
Film Summary
In 1983 the upstart United States Football League (USFL) had the audacity to challenge the almighty NFL. The new league did the unthinkable by playing in the spring and plucked three straight Heisman Trophy winners away from the NFL. The 12-team USFL played before crowds that averaged 25,000 and started off with respectable TV ratings.
But with success came expansion and new owners, including a certain high profile and impatient real estate baron whose vision was at odds with the league's founders. Soon, the USFL was reduced to waging a desperate anti-trust lawsuit against the NFL, which yielded an ironic verdict that effectively forced the league out of business. Now, almost a quarter of a century later, Academy Award-nominated and Peabody Award-winning director Mike Tollin, himself once a chronicler of the league, will showcase the remarkable influence of those three years on football history and attempt to answer the question, "Who Killed the USFL?"
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The XFL kicks off pretty soon, so do you think that it has a chance?
The XFL 2020 schedule, a 79-day sprint from kickoff to the championship game, starts on Saturday, Feb. 8 when the DC Defenders host the Seattle Dragons at 2 p.m. ET (ABC). The debut is followed by the Los Angeles Wildcats at the Houston Roughnecks at 5 p.m. ET (FOX).
The opening weekend of the 10-week regular season continues on Sunday, Feb. 9, when the New York Guardians host the Tampa Bay Vipers at 2 p.m. ET (FOX) and concludes later that day when the St. Louis BattleHawks travel to face the Dallas Renegades at 5 p.m. ET (ESPN).
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"Who Killed the USFL?"
The answer is: Donald Trump
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The XFL kicks off pretty soon, so do you think that it has a chance?
The XFL 2020 schedule, a 79-day sprint from kickoff to the championship game, starts on Saturday, Feb. 8 when the DC Defenders host the Seattle Dragons at 2 p.m. ET (ABC). The debut is followed by the Los Angeles Wildcats at the Houston Roughnecks at 5 p.m. ET (FOX).
The opening weekend of the 10-week regular season continues on Sunday, Feb. 9, when the New York Guardians host the Tampa Bay Vipers at 2 p.m. ET (FOX) and concludes later that day when the St. Louis BattleHawks travel to face the Dallas Renegades at 5 p.m. ET (ESPN).
The XFL kicks off pretty soon, so do you think that it has a chance?
The XFL 2020 schedule, a 79-day sprint from kickoff to the championship game, starts on Saturday, Feb. 8 when the DC Defenders host the Seattle Dragons at 2 p.m. ET (ABC). The debut is followed by the Los Angeles Wildcats at the Houston Roughnecks at 5 p.m. ET (FOX).
The opening weekend of the 10-week regular season continues on Sunday, Feb. 9, when the New York Guardians host the Tampa Bay Vipers at 2 p.m. ET (FOX) and concludes later that day when the St. Louis BattleHawks travel to face the Dallas Renegades at 5 p.m. ET (ESPN).
I thought you had no interest? That you would rather watch women's volleyball and X game skiing.
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Yea, possibly. It remains to be seen.
If there were an XFL team in Cleveland....would it matter to you then?
No. I'm busy enough with the "real" football, baseball and March madness stuff and the like. I don't need "fake" sports.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, TRIBE, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes, I like ND!
No. I'm busy enough with the "real" football, baseball and March madness stuff and the like. I don't need "fake" sports.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, TRIBE, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes, I like ND!
I probably will watch the initial games but unless they are really good I'll go with the other sports entertainment out there.
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The only thing exciting about the XFL is the sexy cheerleaders.. But I will say.. "He Hate Me" was my favorite name in Football.... But like last time.. I expect this league to flop again!...
The only thing exciting about the XFL is the sexy cheerleaders..
Yeah but this time of year all the hotties in Western FL are laying in the sand on the shore of the Gulf of Mexico listening to some blow hard name Flugel tell them YO QUIERO!!!!
Watch Ghoolie show up in a thong and scare them away just to bust my balls!
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The only thing exciting about the XFL is the sexy cheerleaders..
Yeah but this time of year all the hotties in Western FL are laying in the sand on the shore of the Gulf of Mexico listening to some blow hard name Flugel tell them YO QUIERO!!!!
Watch Ghoolie show up in a thong and scare them away just to bust my balls!
Yeah but this time of year all the hotties in Western FL are laying in the sand on the shore of the Gulf of Mexico listening to some blow hard name Flugel tell them YO QUIERO!!!!
Watch Ghoolie show up in a thong and scare them away just to bust my balls!
If you offer those girls tacos things would go better for you.
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Yeah but this time of year all the hotties in Western FL are laying in the sand on the shore of the Gulf of Mexico listening to some blow hard name Flugel tell them YO QUIERO!!!!
Watch Ghoolie show up in a thong and scare them away just to bust my balls!
If you offer those girls tacos things would go better for you.
If you offer those girls tacos things would go better for you.
If those girls offered you tacos things would go better for you.
FIFY?
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The NFL minor league and unless proped up will probably fade into obscurity with all of the others.....
Maybe. But the XFL did just conduct a "draft" ...not a college draft, but one that apparently picked up street Free Agents, including the following names:
Cardale Jones
Connor Cook
Sammie Coates
Matt McGloin
Landry Jones
Orson Charles.
Maybe. But the XFL did just conduct a "draft" ...not a college draft, but one that apparently picked up street Free Agents, including the following names:
Cardale Jones
Connor Cook
Sammie Coates
Matt McGloin
Landry Jones
Orson Charles.
Sammie Coates? How many years has he been out of football? He had 6 rec in da Land in 2017. Landry Jones? LOL
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Of course, it could depend on who played for a Cleveland XFL team. Note: two of the name players I mention above are NEOhio products: Cardale Jones of Glenville, Connor Cook of Walsh Jesuit played HS ball here. That could promote some enthusiasm.
And if Mitch Trubisky does not get his act together, he could be headed for an XFL career perhaps.
I'd rather just watch the BUCKEYES than a bunch of stiffs that couldn't even make an NFL taxi squad......hey maybe some were really driving taxis!
....or Uber guys.
I'd rather just watch the BUCKEYES than a bunch of stiffs that couldn't even make an NFL taxi squad......hey maybe some were really driving taxis!
....or Uber guys.
I'd be willing to bet an XFL squad could give the Buckeyes a serious battle, if not win outright. That Cardale Jones feller- remember him from his time in Columbus? As was posited earlier in the thread- a lot of the XFL players have probably used up their practice squad eligibility- Cardale certainly has. Regarding XFL vs. top NCAA teams- take off your Buckeye homer glasses. In a given year how many Bucs get drafted- 5 maybe? First round one? The rest go on to be NFL nobodies in general. 90%+ of FCS players go on to be accountants, sports announcers (Herbstreit), or wind up pumping gas- just like those XFL guys you're not impressed with.
Sometimes those not ready for the NFL guys just need a chance to shine on a lower level- like our own Garrett Gilbert.
And IIRC Kevin Mack and Frank Minnifield came out of the USFL.
Starts February 8, 2020 anybody even remotely interested in this ?
Yeah, I'm going to tune in for a look.
FWIW, checking prices- if I lived in an XFL city, I'd consider going to a game at $20. OTOH, Flyer Basketball Mania has taken over in Dayton now that they're ranked in the NCAA top 10. Glad I caught a game in person before the price on resale tickets went insane. We're talking NFL playoff level prices ($500) to get prime seating for a regular season Saturday afternoon game. Some folks are asking $100 bucks for nosebleeds.
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The XFL actually blocked Josh Johnson from accepting a contract with the Lions.. So they've got that going for them
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I'd rather just watch the BUCKEYES than a bunch of stiffs that couldn't even make an NFL taxi squad......hey maybe some were really driving taxis!
....or Uber guys.
I'd be willing to bet an XFL squad could give the Buckeyes a serious battle, if not win outright. That Cardale Jones feller- remember him from his time in Columbus? As was posited earlier in the thread- a lot of the XFL players have probably used up their practice squad eligibility- Cardale certainly has. Regarding XFL vs. top NCAA teams- take off your Buckeye homer glasses. In a given year how many Bucs get drafted- 5 maybe? First round one? The rest go on to be NFL nobodies in general. 90%+ of FCS players go on to be accountants, sports announcers (Herbstreit), or wind up pumping gas- just like those XFL guys you're not impressed with.
Sometimes those not ready for the NFL guys just need a chance to shine on a lower level- like our own Garrett Gilbert.
And IIRC Kevin Mack and Frank Minnifield came out of the USFL.
Starts February 8, 2020 anybody even remotely interested in this ?
Yeah, I'm going to tune in for a look.
FWIW, checking prices- if I lived in an XFL city, I'd consider going to a game at $20. OTOH, Flyer Basketball Mania has taken over in Dayton now that they're ranked in the NCAA top 10. Glad I caught a game in person before the price on resale tickets went insane. We're talking NFL playoff level prices ($500) to get prime seating for a regular season Saturday afternoon game. Some folks are asking $100 bucks for nosebleeds.
I'd be willing to bet an XFL squad could give the Buckeyes a serious battle, if not win outright. That Cardale Jones feller- remember him from his time in Columbus? As was posited earlier in the thread- a lot of the XFL players have probably used up their practice squad eligibility- Cardale certainly has. Regarding XFL vs. top NCAA teams- take off your Buckeye homer glasses. In a given year how many Bucs get drafted- 5 maybe? First round one? The rest go on to be NFL nobodies in general. 90%+ of FCS players go on to be accountants, sports announcers (Herbstreit), or wind up pumping gas- just like those XFL guys you're not impressed with.
Sometimes those not ready for the NFL guys just need a chance to shine on a lower level- like our own Garrett Gilbert.
And IIRC Kevin Mack and Frank Minnifield came out of the USFL.
Yeah, I'm going to tune in for a look.
FWIW, checking prices- if I lived in an XFL city, I'd consider going to a game at $20. OTOH, Flyer Basketball Mania has taken over in Dayton now that they're ranked in the NCAA top 10. Glad I caught a game in person before the price on resale tickets went insane. We're talking NFL playoff level prices ($500) to get prime seating for a regular season Saturday afternoon game. Some folks are asking $100 bucks for nosebleeds.
Mack was an Offensive Rookie of the Year here. He was 235-240 lb guy coming out of Clemson with 4.5 speed at the time. Like Jim Kelly, he didn't go to the USFL first because he wasn't good enough for the NFL. He went because it appeared to be his better option (at least temporarily).
We also added ILB Mike Johnson who earned Pro Bowl honors for us on some of our playoff teams.
$100 for nosebleeds? I blee dat. FWIW, 1 guy paid $5K for a Superbowl seat he fell asleep in during the 1st quarter of the game.
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This is a totally different XFL than it was many years ago. Yes, Vince McMahn is still the money behind it, but they actually have some creative ideas to help keep the games interesting.
Gone are the WWE style games. It's going to be more traditional in that sense. However, there are differences. I will tune in for at least a couple of games because i like some of the tweaks they are making and I think they will make it into the NFL.
No more extra points.
1 point: Run a play from the 2-yard line
2 points: Run a play from the 5-yard line
3 points: Run a play from the 10-yard line
kick-off is different
Both teams line up on the receiving teams, 30 yard line. No one can move until the player receiving the ball catches it or it is on the ground for 3 seconds. Then, it's game on. This encourages kick off returns but decreases the velocity
overtime
Overtime shall consist of 5 “Rounds”, staged in alternating single-play possessions as is customary in NHL shootouts or MLS penalty kicks. A “Round” will consist of one offensive play per team. Each possession starts at the opponent’s 5-yard line and the offensive team has one play to score. The team with more points after 5 rounds is the winner.
Referees
Referees are all mic'd and there is a "sky judge" who can buzz down to overrule calls
Double forward pass: "If a team completes a forward pass behind the line of scrimmage, that team may throw a second forward pass, as long as the ball has at no time crossed the line of scrimmage. ... Once the ball has passed the line of scrimmage, no forward passes are permitted." This is something that's not allowed in the NFL or college football, so it could lead to some interesting play designs. But overall, it's a fairly minor rule that we'd only expect to see a few times throughout the season.
Much faster play clock: The XFL has a 25-second play clock compared to the NFL's 40-second play clock. A difference of 15 seconds may not sound like a lot, but this change will definitely be felt on the field. Expect a much faster pace of play as teams must hurry up their play calling. Something to note, however, is the NFL clock starts once the play is ended and the XFL's clock starts once the ball is spotted for play.
Comeback period: During the 2-minute warning (the final two minutes of the second and fourth quarter), there are a few tweaks to allow teams more time to come back, hence "comeback period." From the XFL, "On plays that end in the field of play, the game clock will be stopped until the ball has been spotted and 5 seconds have run off of the play clock." This makes it so a team cannot run the clock out until there is only one minute remaining (assuming the opposing team has no timeouts). In the NFL, a team can run the clock out when there are two minutes remaining.
Running game clock: "Outside the last 2 minutes of each half, the game clock will run after incompletions and out of bounds plays." This will take some getting used to for football fans, but the objective is to just make games go as quickly as possible.
Teams have two timeouts per half instead of three: Another pace of play change, less timeouts equals faster games.
Players need just one foot in bounds instead of two: Yet another pace of play rule, makes it easier to determine catches, leading to faster reviews.
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This is a totally different XFL than it was many years ago. Yes, Vince McMahn is still the money behind it, but they actually have some creative ideas to help keep the games interesting.
Gone are the WWE style games. It's going to be more traditional in that sense. However, there are differences. I will tune in for at least a couple of games because i like some of the tweaks they are making and I think they will make it into the NFL.
No more extra points.
1 point: Run a play from the 2-yard line
2 points: Run a play from the 5-yard line
3 points: Run a play from the 10-yard line
kick-off is different
Both teams line up on the receiving teams, 30 yard line. No one can move until the player receiving the ball catches it or it is on the ground for 3 seconds. Then, it's game on. This encourages kick off returns but decreases the velocity
overtime
Overtime shall consist of 5 “Rounds”, staged in alternating single-play possessions as is customary in NHL shootouts or MLS penalty kicks. A “Round” will consist of one offensive play per team. Each possession starts at the opponent’s 5-yard line and the offensive team has one play to score. The team with more points after 5 rounds is the winner.
Referees
Referees are all mic'd and there is a "sky judge" who can buzz down to overrule calls
Double forward pass: "If a team completes a forward pass behind the line of scrimmage, that team may throw a second forward pass, as long as the ball has at no time crossed the line of scrimmage. ... Once the ball has passed the line of scrimmage, no forward passes are permitted." This is something that's not allowed in the NFL or college football, so it could lead to some interesting play designs. But overall, it's a fairly minor rule that we'd only expect to see a few times throughout the season.
Much faster play clock: The XFL has a 25-second play clock compared to the NFL's 40-second play clock. A difference of 15 seconds may not sound like a lot, but this change will definitely be felt on the field. Expect a much faster pace of play as teams must hurry up their play calling. Something to note, however, is the NFL clock starts once the play is ended and the XFL's clock starts once the ball is spotted for play.
Comeback period: During the 2-minute warning (the final two minutes of the second and fourth quarter), there are a few tweaks to allow teams more time to come back, hence "comeback period." From the XFL, "On plays that end in the field of play, the game clock will be stopped until the ball has been spotted and 5 seconds have run off of the play clock." This makes it so a team cannot run the clock out until there is only one minute remaining (assuming the opposing team has no timeouts). In the NFL, a team can run the clock out when there are two minutes remaining.
Running game clock: "Outside the last 2 minutes of each half, the game clock will run after incompletions and out of bounds plays." This will take some getting used to for football fans, but the objective is to just make games go as quickly as possible.
Teams have two timeouts per half instead of three: Another pace of play change, less timeouts equals faster games.
Players need just one foot in bounds instead of two: Yet another pace of play rule, makes it easier to determine catches, leading to faster reviews.
This is a totally different XFL than it was many years ago. Yes, Vince McMahn is still the money behind it, but they actually have some creative ideas to help keep the games interesting.
Gone are the WWE style games. It's going to be more traditional in that sense. However, there are differences. I will tune in for at least a couple of games because i like some of the tweaks they are making and I think they will make it into the NFL.
Just IMHO maybe they might have gone too far in some areas to be "different" -but- I will give it a try.
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This is a totally different XFL than it was many years ago. Yes, Vince McMahn is still the money behind it, but they actually have some creative ideas to help keep the games interesting.
Gone are the WWE style games. It's going to be more traditional in that sense. However, there are differences. I will tune in for at least a couple of games because i like some of the tweaks they are making and I think they will make it into the NFL.
Just IMHO maybe they might have gone too far in some areas to be "different" -but- I will give it a try.
Just IMHO maybe they might have gone too far in some areas to be "different" -but- I will give it a try.
Yeah the overtime rules seem insipid
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Yeah the overtime rules seem insipid
Yes that's wired plus the new main objective..... " This will take some getting used to for football fans, but the objective is to just make games go as quickly as possible.
Geared toward the younger fans.
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I would definitely have some interest of we had a team in Cleveland. I'm planning on watching at least the first game tomorrow.
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