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  • C calfoxwc

    WE NEED A WALL !

    Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born ...

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/26/illegals-commit-crimes-double-rate...

    Jan 26, 2018 · The crime rate among illegal immigrants in Arizona is twice that of other residents, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Friday, citing a new report based on conviction data.

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    @calfoxwc said:

    WE NEED A WALL !

    Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born ...

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/26/illegals-commit-crimes-double-rate...

    Jan 26, 2018 · The crime rate among illegal immigrants in Arizona is twice that of other residents, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Friday, citing a new report based on conviction data.

    Spoken like a true Xenophobe.... And data from one of Trump's ass kissers. The only way they're allowed to hang around the White House..... 

    @calfoxwc said:

    Democrats Are Leaving Their Party in Droves. Conservatives ...

    https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/08/22/former-democrats-are-leaving-their-party-in...

    Aug 22, 2018 · Democrats Are Leaving Their Party in Droves. Conservatives Should Pay Attention. Two thousand years ago, St. Paul found himself blinded by a bright light on the road to Damascus…

    Author: Jeff Walyus

    Apparently some of you here think Trump = Jesus. Danger Will Clark, danger!!! Pull out your history book, go back 90 years or so and substitute Mexicans for Jews. You know that little guy originally from Austria. Some of us happen to see parallels there Cal.   

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      Great- I lasted through about 20 minutes of it on YouTube. Donald takes a victory lap, bashes the Democrats, plays the martyr card. 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back.....  EXACTLY what I expected. 

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        Then it's a sad day for this country OBF. 

        "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore." Statue of Liberty

        "Build me a Big Beautiful Wall to keep the riff-raff out" Donald Trump. There's many, many other reasons he's disliked. 

        sorry - we NEED THE WALL.

        https://thegoldwater.com/news/28155-DOJ-Releases-Shocking-2018-Illegal-Alien-Crime-Statistics-and-Media-is-Silent

        DOJ Releases Shocking 2018 Illegal Alien Crime Statistics and Media is Silent

        The Departments of Justice and Homeland Security have now released their 2018 quarterly reports on the arrests of illegal aliens inside the United States of America, and the statistics of those currently in federal custody pending trial or deportation are quite shocking.

        The mainstream media makes an effort to depict those incarcerated by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) agencies as being “Dreamers” or “innocent children,” and in reality that's the furthest thing from the truth, according to the report on the Justice Department website.

        As a result of President Trump’s Executive Order on Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States, there's a specific requirement given to both the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for each government agency to collect the relevant data and provide quarterly reports on data collection efforts.

        The report finds that more than one-in-five of all persons in Bureau of Prisons custody were known or suspected aliens, a shocking misuse of our prison systems and a major burden on the taxpayers of this country.

        This could be avoided if a border wall were funded immediately.

        Even moreover interesting is that 93 percent of all confirmed aliens that are in DOJ custody are in the United States unlawfully, meaning that the ICE agency is accurately making arrests of those who shouldn't be in the United States of America in the first place.

        On June 7th of 2018, the DOJ and DHS released the full Fiscal Year First Quarter Alien Incarceration Report for download, complying with this order.

        First Quarter 2018 Alien Incarceration Report:

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        @calfoxwc said:

        sorry - we NEED THE WALL.

        Go pay for it then Cal. I object to my tax money being spent on a multi billion dollar boondoggle that isn't going to work. 

        @calfoxwc said:

        I'm just curious - why judge based on nothing that you ...didn't hear or watch, but you made a point about it?

        Why can that make any sense to you? or, you are just going by what you heard from a hater and peer pressure influenced this outburst against Pres Trump

        I heard all I needed to. I wasn't happy about the CBS soundbites that got posted on this thread- so I went to the unedited stuff. Get your head out of your ass (or Trump's) for God's sake. I'm smart enough to make up my own mind. Trump is as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning.... Nah- all those guys leveling criticism at Trump from a leftist POV don't know what they're talking about..... 

        From one post above...  

        "Great- I lasted through about 20 minutes of it on YouTube. Donald takes a victory lap, bashes the Democrats, plays the martyr card. 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back.....  EXACTLY what I expected. " 

        I said it before- and you can bite me if you don't agree- as a card carrying Republican for over 20 years my POV is- Donald Trump has destroyed the Republican party as we know it- and it's never going to be the same. If you want to be one of Donald's sycophant sheep- by all means, carry on. As far as "seeing the light" Democratic Donald pro abortion saw the better path to getting elected if he did a 180 to garner more votes. I say phony. LOL, the Dems lied?- from the most documented liar ever to live in the White House? Spare me the hypocrisy....  

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          @calfoxwc said:

          WE NEED A WALL !

          Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born ...

          https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/26/illegals-commit-crimes-double-rate...

          Jan 26, 2018 · The crime rate among illegal immigrants in Arizona is twice that of other residents, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Friday, citing a new report based on conviction data.

          Spoken like a true Xenophobe.... And data from one of Trump's ass kissers. The only way they're allowed to hang around the White House..... 

          @calfoxwc said:

          Democrats Are Leaving Their Party in Droves. Conservatives ...

          https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/08/22/former-democrats-are-leaving-their-party-in...

          Aug 22, 2018 · Democrats Are Leaving Their Party in Droves. Conservatives Should Pay Attention. Two thousand years ago, St. Paul found himself blinded by a bright light on the road to Damascus…

          Author: Jeff Walyus

          Apparently some of you here think Trump = Jesus. Danger Will Clark, danger!!! Pull out your history book, go back 90 years or so and substitute Mexicans for Jews. You know that little guy originally from Austria. Some of us happen to see parallels there Cal.   

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          @hoorta said:

          Spoken like a true Xenophobe.... And data from one of Trump's ass kissers. The only way they're allowed to hang around the White House..... 

          Apparently some of you here think Trump = Jesus. Danger Will Clark, danger!!! Pull out your history book, go back 90 years or so and substitute Mexicans for Jews. You know that little guy originally from Austria. Some of us happen to see parallels there Cal.   

          I think you would be surprised at the Hispanic support for Trump. 

          https://lexitmovement.org/

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            TRUMP’S EXCELLENT ACQUITTAL

            https://mariomurilloministries.wordpress.com/2020/02/05/trumps-excellent-acquittal/?fbclid=IwAR2FnfJChmr0wYEof4Su3StMrb2iP9h0iOhI1KjJMNLskEzRFXWlIOQ33Sg

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              People who hate Trump

              -approve of guys in little girls bathrooms.

              -approve of killing babies up to the point full term birth.(literally head coming out of the mother)

              -approve of taking away your 2nd amendment rights.

              -letting felons vote

              -refuse to acknowledge simple biological things like a man is man etc.

              -approve of open borders.

              -approve of zero consequences for complete lies and shams in our judicial system. (Kavanaugh is a perfect example, why has no one been held responsible for that shitshow)

              I could go on for ever...

              Yet people who approve of Making America Great Again are racists, deplorables etc.  If all you see is Trumps mastery of trolling then maybe you should look past the hair, the tweets, the ‘pussy’ grabbing comments, the obvious gaffes meant to incite responses from idiots.  Trump has done what no other president before him has done and all while being wrongfully persecuted for made up crimes.

              I’m pretty comfortable knowing that the guy pissing off both the left and the right is exposing levels of corruption beyond comprehension.  Plus my pension, wages and simple freedoms are doing better than ever.

              #MAGA

              guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                Rolling up my sleeves...

                Opening my wallet....

                Joining the Texas Democratic Party.

                Trump's performance in the East Room today was fucking embarrassing.

                It's no longer enough to simply vote against the man.

                It's time to get to work and end the Trumpican Party this November before it ends this country... hopefully it can last that long.

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                @tour2ma said:

                Trump's performance in the East Room today was fucking embarrassing.

                The East Room?

                Isn’t that the room where Clinton used an intern as a humidor?

                Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  you should go back to talking about a few "x's" and "o's" while you haven't disgraced yourself further, egad. Pres Trump never did anything to be impeached for. Experts all over our government, all over our country have said it. Even all four invited leftwing hater hack Constitutional experts ADMITTED IT IN FRONT OF THE DEMWAHACKS IN CONGRESS DURING THEIR FAKE IMPEACHMENT.

                  I'm not saying you're manic and/or bipolar.   Only your posting style and verbiage tends to indicate some other...problems.

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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  I'm not saying you're manic and/or bipolar.   Only your posting style and verbiage tends to indicate some other...problems.

                  that's very soviet of you. If you get mad at a critic, say he has "problems" lol Truth is, you can't explain your opinions, outside of football, at all.

                  truth is, you are the one who threatened me once - that is strike one on -your- way to looking like you aren't all there.   It's just silly to have to tell posters like you and a few others, what is so obvious, that you ignore. I don't get it. It's sad on a congressional scale, ...

                  ObaMao commie encouraged all this vile hostility toward all conservatives, and anybody who disagrees with the left. Most of the time - posts do not reflect who the posters are enough to judge. There are a few who do threats of violence, that's bad. I am contrary to a fault - rock solid in my beliefs, because of legit reasons I have for establishing those beliefs long ago, in the first place.

                     My goofy creativity in word use is said to be a "higher intelligence".  It just amuses me, helps to make a point.

                  You went off the deep end, when all I did was to disagree politely to ONE of your ten points in a football post.

                  Perhaps you should evaluate yourself since perhaps, you know you best. And do have a nice day.

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                    The Democrat Party has given up on counting votes in Iowa. Looks like it all got computer “fried”. Nobody knows who the real winner is. Maybe it’s Sleepy Joe, but it’s not looking that way. They lost millions & millions of dollars, all for NOTHING. But I WON Iowa big!

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      WE NEED A WALL !

                      Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born ...

                      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/26/illegals-commit-crimes-double-rate...

                      Jan 26, 2018 · The crime rate among illegal immigrants in Arizona is twice that of other residents, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Friday, citing a new report based on conviction data.

                      Spoken like a true Xenophobe.... And data from one of Trump's ass kissers. The only way they're allowed to hang around the White House..... 

                      @calfoxwc said:

                      Democrats Are Leaving Their Party in Droves. Conservatives ...

                      https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/08/22/former-democrats-are-leaving-their-party-in...

                      Aug 22, 2018 · Democrats Are Leaving Their Party in Droves. Conservatives Should Pay Attention. Two thousand years ago, St. Paul found himself blinded by a bright light on the road to Damascus…

                      Author: Jeff Walyus

                      Apparently some of you here think Trump = Jesus. Danger Will Clark, danger!!! Pull out your history book, go back 90 years or so and substitute Mexicans for Jews. You know that little guy originally from Austria. Some of us happen to see parallels there Cal.   

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                      @hoorta said:

                      Apparently some of you here think Trump = Jesus. Danger Will Clark, danger!!! Pull out your history book, go back 90 years or so and substitute Mexicans for Jews. You know that little guy originally from Austria. Some of us happen to see parallels there Cal.   

                      I call silliness on that, Hoorta. If you can see it, explain. Because it's not true at all, as I see it.h

                      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/18-major-moments-hispanic-history_n_55f70275e4b042295e370d3c

                      4 U.S. Extends Citizenship To Puerto Ricans In 1917
                      <strong>What Happened</strong>: Perhaps not for the most altruistic of reasons, the <a href="http://www.history.com/this-day-
                      ASSOCIATED PRESS
                      What Happened: Perhaps not for the most altruistic of reasons, the United States extended both citizenship and, shortly after, military conscription to Puerto Rico in 1917, as World War I raged on in Europe.

                      Why It Matters: Puerto Ricans are American just like anyone born in the 50 states.
                       
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                        5 First Hispanic U.S. Senator
                        <strong>What Happened</strong>: Octaviano Larrazolo of New Mexico became the <a href="http://www.loc.gov/rr/hispanic/congress
                         
                        What Happened: Octaviano Larrazolo of New Mexico became the first Hispanic elected to the U.S. Senate. As a politician, he pushed to boost Hispanic representation so that the political system would reflect the state’s population. He also helped write portions of the state’s constitution guaranteeing that people of Mexican descent wouldn’t be disfranchised.

                        Why It Matters: Because score Team Latino!
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                          btw, the nazis never had courts. just like your demoquacks think they don't matter

                          6 Mendez v. Westminster Decided

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                          What Happened: Before Brown v. Board of Education in 1954, the courts ruled it unconstitutional to segregate students of Mexican heritage into inferior schools. The plaintiff, Sylvia Mendez, sued after being turned away from a “whites only” public school in California.

                          Why It Matters: The 1947 decision from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals helped pave the way for Brown v. Board of Education and played a key role in making school segregation illegal. This undated image provided by the U.S. Postal Service shows a 41-cent postage stamp, to be released Friday, Sept. 14 in Santa Ana, California, commemorating the 1946 court decision, Mendez v. Westminster School District, that paved the way for the nation’s school desegregation. 

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                            so, America welcomed Cubans fleeing communism in masses:

                            8 The Cuban Revolution Comes To Power In 1959
                            <strong>What Happened</strong>: Following the triumph of the Cuban Revolution in 1959 and its sharp leftward turn within the
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                            What Happened: Following the triumph of the Cuban Revolution in 1959 and its sharp leftward turn within the next two years, Fidel Castro established a Communist government that remains in place today.  

                            Why It Matters: More than one million Cubans left the island as the Revolution became more radical, with most of them settling in Miami, Florida, a city they transformed. Subsequent waves of Cubans migrated to the United States in the 1980s, with the Mariel boatlift, and the 1990s, after the fall of the Soviet Union upended the island’s economy.
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                              12 Roberto Clemente Helps Change MLB History
                              <strong>What Happened</strong>: A champion of black and Hispanic rights who began his career before the end of segregation, <
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                              What Happened: A champion of black and Hispanic rights who began his career before the end of segregation, Roberto Clemente was the first Latino in professional baseball to reach 3,000 hits. He played in two World Series, winning MVP in the 1971 games.

                              “My greatest satisfaction comes from helping to erase the old opinion about Latin Americans and blacks,” Clemente said toward the end of his career. He died in a plane crash in 1972 while delivering supplies to Nicaragua after an earthquake.

                              Why It Matters: The trailblazing Puerto Rican-born ballplayer not only built a stellar career, but also acted as politically conscious representative of the Latino community at a time when professional sports included few Hispanics. Score Team Latino!
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                                Now, Hoorta - you show me any example of Jews being honored and having their civil rights legally established

                                back in Germany.

                                There is no correlation. To claim that there is, is like the dems in Congress claiming their "evidence was overwhelming" ...

                                hate is NOT EVIDENCE.

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                                  People who hate Trump

                                  -approve of guys in little girls bathrooms.

                                  -approve of killing babies up to the point full term birth.(literally head coming out of the mother)

                                  -approve of taking away your 2nd amendment rights.

                                  -letting felons vote

                                  -refuse to acknowledge simple biological things like a man is man etc.

                                  -approve of open borders.

                                  -approve of zero consequences for complete lies and shams in our judicial system. (Kavanaugh is a perfect example, why has no one been held responsible for that shitshow)

                                  I could go on for ever...

                                  Yet people who approve of Making America Great Again are racists, deplorables etc.  If all you see is Trumps mastery of trolling then maybe you should look past the hair, the tweets, the ‘pussy’ grabbing comments, the obvious gaffes meant to incite responses from idiots.  Trump has done what no other president before him has done and all while being wrongfully persecuted for made up crimes.

                                  I’m pretty comfortable knowing that the guy pissing off both the left and the right is exposing levels of corruption beyond comprehension.  Plus my pension, wages and simple freedoms are doing better than ever.

                                  #MAGA

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                                  @hammertime said:

                                  People who hate Trump

                                  -approve of guys in little girls bathrooms. nope

                                  -approve of killing babies up to the point full term birth.(literally head coming out of the mother) definitely nope

                                  -approve of taking away your 2nd amendment rights. nope

                                  -letting felons vote nope

                                  -refuse to acknowledge simple biological things like a man is man etc. nope

                                  -approve of open borders. some restrictions there- screw the wall though. 

                                  -approve of zero consequences for complete lies and shams in our judicial system. (Kavanaugh is a perfect example, why has no one been held responsible for that shitshow) yeah, and when Trump tells his lackeys not to testify in the House, and his other lackey in the senate won't allow additional witnesses- whatever. 

                                  I could go on for ever...

                                  Yet people who approve of Making America Great Again are racists, deplorables etc.  If all you see is Trumps mastery of trolling then maybe you should look past the hair, the tweets, the ‘pussy’ grabbing comments, the obvious gaffes meant to incite responses from idiots.  Trump has done what no other president before him has done and all while being wrongfully persecuted for made up crimes.

                                  I’m pretty comfortable knowing that the guy pissing off both the left and the right is exposing levels of corruption beyond comprehension.  Plus my pension, wages and simple freedoms are doing better than ever.

                                  #MAGA

                                  That's complete bullshit for a lot of folks who happen to think Trump is a lousy president, as big a slimeball as Clinton, and his vindictiveness is showing right on through...   

                                  Glad your 401 is doing great, I am too.  

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                                    I was very surprised & disappointed that Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia voted against me on the Democrat’s totally partisan Impeachment Hoax. No President has done more for the great people of West Virginia than me (Pensions), and that will always continue. Every Republican Senator except Romney, many highly religious people, all very smart, voted against the Impeachment Hoax. Sen. Capito was all in (a great person). I was told by many that Manchin was just a puppet for Schumer & Pelosi. That’s all he is!

                                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                      @hammertime said:

                                      People who hate Trump

                                      -approve of guys in little girls bathrooms. nope

                                      -approve of killing babies up to the point full term birth.(literally head coming out of the mother) definitely nope

                                      -approve of taking away your 2nd amendment rights. nope

                                      -letting felons vote nope

                                      -refuse to acknowledge simple biological things like a man is man etc. nope

                                      -approve of open borders. some restrictions there- screw the wall though. 

                                      -approve of zero consequences for complete lies and shams in our judicial system. (Kavanaugh is a perfect example, why has no one been held responsible for that shitshow) yeah, and when Trump tells his lackeys not to testify in the House, and his other lackey in the senate won't allow additional witnesses- whatever. 

                                      I could go on for ever...

                                      Yet people who approve of Making America Great Again are racists, deplorables etc.  If all you see is Trumps mastery of trolling then maybe you should look past the hair, the tweets, the ‘pussy’ grabbing comments, the obvious gaffes meant to incite responses from idiots.  Trump has done what no other president before him has done and all while being wrongfully persecuted for made up crimes.

                                      I’m pretty comfortable knowing that the guy pissing off both the left and the right is exposing levels of corruption beyond comprehension.  Plus my pension, wages and simple freedoms are doing better than ever.

                                      #MAGA

                                      That's complete bullshit for a lot of folks who happen to think Trump is a lousy president, as big a slimeball as Clinton, and his vindictiveness is showing right on through...   

                                      Glad your 401 is doing great, I am too.  

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                                      @hoorta said:

                                      That's complete bullshit for a lot of folks who happen to think Trump is a lousy president, as big a slimeball as Clinton, and his vindictiveness is showing right on through...   

                                      Glad your 401 is doing great, I am too.  

                                      don't be like woody, give us one example of how he is not being a Real American promise keeping president.

                                      (and look at the tens of thousands who go to his rallies....)

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                                        I respect your opinion Hoorta 

                                        guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                                          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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