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    @mld-woody said:

    I was raised Catholic for a while. I've taken Communion and all of that. 

    But the beauty of religion is that it's all just made up interpretations based off of a text that his been edited countless times. Someone can find some passages and interpret them in a way where they feel Jesus would want everyone to have guns or that Jesus wouldn't want to support the poor with social programs. It's a la carte in how one interprets and follows it. 

    Romney voted to impeach based off of his religious beliefs. He's super religious. But other super religious people (that may just be putting party first...) will tell you he's wrong and a bad person. Trump can go on the attack about him falsely using his faith, which is fucking hilarious coming from Trump, and staunch Christians will find a way to defend Trump.

    And don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are similar examples of this with other religions in other countries. 

    At the end of the idea it's a man made belief system so all of these flaws and conflicts are going to be present. It's just funny seeing people trying to talk out of both sides of their mouth but still say it all follows with their religious beliefs. 

    You clearly don't understand the true beauty of religion..

    Maybe someday.

    @axe said:

    You clearly don't understand the true beauty of religion..

    . He 

    Maybe someday.

    He is like a blind man trying to judge art. (or a fish in a pond believing there is nothing outside the pond). 

  • @axe said:

    You clearly don't understand the true beauty of religion..

    . He 

    Maybe someday.

    He is like a blind man trying to judge art. (or a fish in a pond believing there is nothing outside the pond). 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    He is like a blind man trying to judge art. (or a fish in a pond believing there is nothing outside the pond). 

    I thought several were judging an elephant. Well that fits pretty well for the trumpettes unable to see past the emperor's new clothes.?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    He is like a blind man trying to judge art. (or a fish in a pond believing there is nothing outside the pond). 

    I thought several were judging an elephant. Well that fits pretty well for the trumpettes unable to see past the emperor's new clothes.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I thought several were judging an elephant. Well that fits pretty well for the trumpettes unable to see past the emperor's new clothes.?

    The flip side of that Tex are those because of TDS who cannot get by the faults of Trump to recognize all his accomplishments .

    The best analogy of Trump I heard was from Mike Huckabee. He compared Trump to a great doctor with terrible bedside manner.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I thought several were judging an elephant. Well that fits pretty well for the trumpettes unable to see past the emperor's new clothes.?

    The flip side of that Tex are those because of TDS who cannot get by the faults of Trump to recognize all his accomplishments .

    The best analogy of Trump I heard was from Mike Huckabee. He compared Trump to a great doctor with terrible bedside manner.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The flip side of that Tex are those because of TDS who cannot get by the faults of Trump to recognize all his accomplishments .

    The best analogy of Trump I heard was from Mike Huckabee. He compared Trump to a great doctor with terrible bedside manner.

    And you kid yourself about those accomplishments. The Mexico paid for boondoggle wall, the $Tril+/year overspending, the economy that was already turned around from the 2007-08 disaster Obama inherited, the National Health Care Bill he promised to replace Obamacarw with when in fact all he had was a destroy agenda, not a replace at all plan (McCain saw through that), etc. You guys stay focused on the smoke and mirrors while he plays the old pea under the 3 thimbles game with you. Meanwhile he makes tons of money and gets permanent tax breaks for all superrich people while yours run out pretty damn soon with King Liar promising that won't happen if you just re-elect him. Cold day in hell when that bill gets done, you betcha!?️?

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  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    The flip side of that Tex are those because of TDS who cannot get by the faults of Trump to recognize all his accomplishments .

    The best analogy of Trump I heard was from Mike Huckabee. He compared Trump to a great doctor with terrible bedside manner.

    And you kid yourself about those accomplishments. The Mexico paid for boondoggle wall, the $Tril+/year overspending, the economy that was already turned around from the 2007-08 disaster Obama inherited, the National Health Care Bill he promised to replace Obamacarw with when in fact all he had was a destroy agenda, not a replace at all plan (McCain saw through that), etc. You guys stay focused on the smoke and mirrors while he plays the old pea under the 3 thimbles game with you. Meanwhile he makes tons of money and gets permanent tax breaks for all superrich people while yours run out pretty damn soon with King Liar promising that won't happen if you just re-elect him. Cold day in hell when that bill gets done, you betcha!?️?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And you kid yourself about those accomplishments. The Mexico paid for boondoggle wall, the $Tril+/year overspending, the economy that was already turned around from the 2007-08 disaster Obama inherited, the National Health Care Bill he promised to replace Obamacarw with when in fact all he had was a destroy agenda, not a replace at all plan (McCain saw through that), etc. You guys stay focused on the smoke and mirrors while he plays the old pea under the 3 thimbles game with you. Meanwhile he makes tons of money and gets permanent tax breaks for all superrich people while yours run out pretty damn soon with King Liar promising that won't happen if you just re-elect him. Cold day in hell when that bill gets done, you betcha!?️?

    Trump actually has done a great job securing the southern border almost single handedly. He has gotten no help from democrats and little from republicans. He twisted the arm of Mexico with threat of tariffs and now Mexico has thousands of soldiers patrolling the border. He also has done great doing away with the catch and release at the border.

    Health care is a huge problem no matter who is in office.

    The tax breaks have worked great with people happy with their 401k's. Incomes have been rising and much of that has been for blue collar workers. The democrats always play class warfare and that is very destructive to our country. We need wealthy people. I don't get jealous of the person who likely worked harder than me and took risks with their own money to become successful. We need them. They are the ones who do pay most of the taxes, create the jobs and drive our economy. I don't want to punish successful people I want to see more of them because we all benefit from it.

  • @canton-dawg said:

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    And when it's all said and done you're just gonna get a dog day afternoon from Porknoccio. ???

    A phrase of unknown origin, but common in the American South to refer to the hottest time of Summer when even the dogs slept under the porch in the shade. With no escaping the heat, all time stood still and everyone slept.
     
     
  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    The flip side of that Tex are those because of TDS who cannot get by the faults of Trump to recognize all his accomplishments .

    The best analogy of Trump I heard was from Mike Huckabee. He compared Trump to a great doctor with terrible bedside manner.

    And you kid yourself about those accomplishments. The Mexico paid for boondoggle wall, the $Tril+/year overspending, the economy that was already turned around from the 2007-08 disaster Obama inherited, the National Health Care Bill he promised to replace Obamacarw with when in fact all he had was a destroy agenda, not a replace at all plan (McCain saw through that), etc. You guys stay focused on the smoke and mirrors while he plays the old pea under the 3 thimbles game with you. Meanwhile he makes tons of money and gets permanent tax breaks for all superrich people while yours run out pretty damn soon with King Liar promising that won't happen if you just re-elect him. Cold day in hell when that bill gets done, you betcha!?️?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And you kid yourself about those accomplishments. The Mexico paid for boondoggle wall, the $Tril+/year overspending, the economy that was already turned around from the 2007-08 disaster Obama inherited, the National Health Care Bill he promised to replace Obamacarw with when in fact all he had was a destroy agenda, not a replace at all plan (McCain saw through that), etc. You guys stay focused on the smoke and mirrors while he plays the old pea under the 3 thimbles game with you. Meanwhile he makes tons of money and gets permanent tax breaks for all superrich people while yours run out pretty damn soon with King Liar promising that won't happen if you just re-elect him. Cold day in hell when that bill gets done, you betcha!?️?

    at least TRY to be serious. Mexico is stopping the caravans - which actually costs them $$$$$$, which helps us save $$$$$$ that we can then spend on the wall. It was your ObaMao commie that he would cut the deficit by half by the end of his first term.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2012/aug/16/americans-prosperity/obama-national-debt-held-accountable-one-term/

    and Pres Trump said he'd cut it by the end of his eight years. Obamao's jobs "turned around" because he expanded gov jobs. NOT PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS. He put obamao loyalists everywhere in our GOVERNMENT. Your slurs are getting more childish as you lost out on the faked reasons for the mueller report, the phony "impeachment" witch hunt.

    give it up = it's been boring since you started.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And you kid yourself about those accomplishments. The Mexico paid for boondoggle wall, the $Tril+/year overspending, the economy that was already turned around from the 2007-08 disaster Obama inherited, the National Health Care Bill he promised to replace Obamacarw with when in fact all he had was a destroy agenda, not a replace at all plan (McCain saw through that), etc. You guys stay focused on the smoke and mirrors while he plays the old pea under the 3 thimbles game with you. Meanwhile he makes tons of money and gets permanent tax breaks for all superrich people while yours run out pretty damn soon with King Liar promising that won't happen if you just re-elect him. Cold day in hell when that bill gets done, you betcha!?️?

    at least TRY to be serious. Mexico is stopping the caravans - which actually costs them $$$$$$, which helps us save $$$$$$ that we can then spend on the wall. It was your ObaMao commie that he would cut the deficit by half by the end of his first term.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2012/aug/16/americans-prosperity/obama-national-debt-held-accountable-one-term/

    and Pres Trump said he'd cut it by the end of his eight years. Obamao's jobs "turned around" because he expanded gov jobs. NOT PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS. He put obamao loyalists everywhere in our GOVERNMENT. Your slurs are getting more childish as you lost out on the faked reasons for the mueller report, the phony "impeachment" witch hunt.

    give it up = it's been boring since you started.

    @calfoxwc said:

     Your slurs are getting more childish as you lost out on the faked reasons for the mueller report, the phony "impeachment" witch hunt.

    give it up = it's been boring since you started.

    Mueller actually said he would have criminally prosecuted, but the law did not allow it. And the investigation by the House was totally blocked of documents and witnesses by Trump. & his toad Barr. So don't tell me about phony anything except this phony president that his own party fears. You have allowed a dictator to run this country. Welcome to South America.

  • @calfoxwc said:

     Your slurs are getting more childish as you lost out on the faked reasons for the mueller report, the phony "impeachment" witch hunt.

    give it up = it's been boring since you started.

    Mueller actually said he would have criminally prosecuted, but the law did not allow it. And the investigation by the House was totally blocked of documents and witnesses by Trump. & his toad Barr. So don't tell me about phony anything except this phony president that his own party fears. You have allowed a dictator to run this country. Welcome to South America.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Mueller actually said he would have criminally prosecuted, but the law did not allow it. And the investigation by the House was totally blocked of documents and witnesses by Trump. & his toad Barr. So don't tell me about phony anything except this phony president that his own party fears. You have allowed a dictator to run this country. Welcome to South America.

    Definition of triggered ^^^

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And you kid yourself about those accomplishments. The Mexico paid for boondoggle wall, the $Tril+/year overspending, the economy that was already turned around from the 2007-08 disaster Obama inherited, the National Health Care Bill he promised to replace Obamacarw with when in fact all he had was a destroy agenda, not a replace at all plan (McCain saw through that), etc. You guys stay focused on the smoke and mirrors while he plays the old pea under the 3 thimbles game with you. Meanwhile he makes tons of money and gets permanent tax breaks for all superrich people while yours run out pretty damn soon with King Liar promising that won't happen if you just re-elect him. Cold day in hell when that bill gets done, you betcha!?️?

    Trump actually has done a great job securing the southern border almost single handedly. He has gotten no help from democrats and little from republicans. He twisted the arm of Mexico with threat of tariffs and now Mexico has thousands of soldiers patrolling the border. He also has done great doing away with the catch and release at the border.

    Health care is a huge problem no matter who is in office.

    The tax breaks have worked great with people happy with their 401k's. Incomes have been rising and much of that has been for blue collar workers. The democrats always play class warfare and that is very destructive to our country. We need wealthy people. I don't get jealous of the person who likely worked harder than me and took risks with their own money to become successful. We need them. They are the ones who do pay most of the taxes, create the jobs and drive our economy. I don't want to punish successful people I want to see more of them because we all benefit from it.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Trump actually has done a great job securing the southern border almost single handedly. He has gotten no help from democrats and little from republicans. He twisted the arm of Mexico with threat of tariffs and now Mexico has thousands of soldiers patrolling the border. He also has done great doing away with the catch and release at the border.

    Health care is a huge problem no matter who is in office.

    The tax breaks have worked great with people happy with their 401k's. Incomes have been rising and much of that has been for blue collar workers. The democrats always play class warfare and that is very destructive to our country. We need wealthy people. I don't get jealous of the person who likely worked harder than me and took risks with their own money to become successful. We need them. They are the ones who do pay most of the taxes, create the jobs and drive our economy. I don't want to punish successful people I want to see more of them because we all benefit from it.

    For most blue collars, a few hundred here or there are nice... but the thousands that could be saved by addressing health care and educational costs would be more of an economic relief.  You speak of growing a depleted military - check out the numbers on what has happened to the middle class the past 35 years.     Imagine the economic boom if wages had kept up the past 20 years.

    Also, to be clear since it is econ 101, wealthy people in and of themselves don't create jobs - demand does.      Microsoft can sit on their empire of billions, but lets pretend that tomorrow Windows was replaced with a different OS which becomes industry standard.   Demand for their product and its support shrinks, their work-force, software engineers, design teams, support staff, administration... all of it, cut immensely.     Company and stock is immediately and sharply de-valued and their employment rate is cut nearly 50%.     Despite having one of the wealthiest men in the world as a founder, solid share prices and executive leadership all whom are of wealth...   wouldn't make much of a difference.           Demand is priority 1.  If your product isn't wanted or needed, your personal fortunate won't account for jackshit.   

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Trump actually has done a great job securing the southern border almost single handedly. He has gotten no help from democrats and little from republicans. He twisted the arm of Mexico with threat of tariffs and now Mexico has thousands of soldiers patrolling the border. He also has done great doing away with the catch and release at the border.

    Health care is a huge problem no matter who is in office.

    The tax breaks have worked great with people happy with their 401k's. Incomes have been rising and much of that has been for blue collar workers. The democrats always play class warfare and that is very destructive to our country. We need wealthy people. I don't get jealous of the person who likely worked harder than me and took risks with their own money to become successful. We need them. They are the ones who do pay most of the taxes, create the jobs and drive our economy. I don't want to punish successful people I want to see more of them because we all benefit from it.

    For most blue collars, a few hundred here or there are nice... but the thousands that could be saved by addressing health care and educational costs would be more of an economic relief.  You speak of growing a depleted military - check out the numbers on what has happened to the middle class the past 35 years.     Imagine the economic boom if wages had kept up the past 20 years.

    Also, to be clear since it is econ 101, wealthy people in and of themselves don't create jobs - demand does.      Microsoft can sit on their empire of billions, but lets pretend that tomorrow Windows was replaced with a different OS which becomes industry standard.   Demand for their product and its support shrinks, their work-force, software engineers, design teams, support staff, administration... all of it, cut immensely.     Company and stock is immediately and sharply de-valued and their employment rate is cut nearly 50%.     Despite having one of the wealthiest men in the world as a founder, solid share prices and executive leadership all whom are of wealth...   wouldn't make much of a difference.           Demand is priority 1.  If your product isn't wanted or needed, your personal fortunate won't account for jackshit.   

    @tiamat63 said:

    For most blue collars, a few hundred here or there are nice... but the thousands that could be saved by addressing health care and educational costs would be more of an economic relief.  You speak of growing a depleted military - check out the numbers on what has happened to the middle class the past 35 years.     Imagine the economic boom if wages had kept up the past 20 years.

    Also, to be clear since it is econ 101, wealthy people in and of themselves don't create jobs - demand does.      Microsoft can sit on their empire of billions, but lets pretend that tomorrow Windows was replaced with a different OS which becomes industry standard.   Demand for their product and its support shrinks, their work-force, software engineers, design teams, support staff, administration... all of it, cut immensely.     Company and stock is immediately and sharply de-valued and their employment rate is cut nearly 50%.     Despite having one of the wealthiest men in the world as a founder, solid share prices and executive leadership all whom are of wealth...   wouldn't make much of a difference.           Demand is priority 1.  If your product isn't wanted or needed, your personal fortunate won't account for jackshit.   

    Eco 101 in a recession there is a whole lot of demand for things but that doesn't equal economic growth or job creation. So I'm not buying demand alone will create jobs. Purchasing power comes into play. Yes wealthy people are the true job creators and not the govt or the poor.

  • I worked for a person once who built a frozen pizza empire. His father owned an Italian restaurant and he started making pizzas in the basement of the restaurant and  then he would load up his station wagon and go out to stores and sell them. As he got more orders he hired a worker to make the pizzas and he would go out and make more sales. As he made more sales he hired more workers to supply the demand. Soon he had to buy a building as the basement was too small. Now he was investing heavily  in new equipment. He bought new freezers, refrigerated trucks, hired more and more people, and he was ordering more and more supplies to make the pizzas. Soon he was making more pizzas for other companies using different labels. I was surprised at how much good was done to our economy by this one person and his frozen pizza factory and the capillary effect of new employees paying taxes, helping other businesses that supplied the ingredients to the pizzas, the new trucks and equipment, it just affected so many other things helpful to our economy.

    That is why I am big on tax breaks to help businesses but that is only if they are building businesses in our own country because our country reaps the capillary effect. The last thing I want to see are tax breaks for businesses that move out of our country. I am not out to see wealthy business owners get more wealthy without our own country getting the benefit.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Trump actually has done a great job securing the southern border almost single handedly. He has gotten no help from democrats and little from republicans. He twisted the arm of Mexico with threat of tariffs and now Mexico has thousands of soldiers patrolling the border. He also has done great doing away with the catch and release at the border.

    Health care is a huge problem no matter who is in office.

    The tax breaks have worked great with people happy with their 401k's. Incomes have been rising and much of that has been for blue collar workers. The democrats always play class warfare and that is very destructive to our country. We need wealthy people. I don't get jealous of the person who likely worked harder than me and took risks with their own money to become successful. We need them. They are the ones who do pay most of the taxes, create the jobs and drive our economy. I don't want to punish successful people I want to see more of them because we all benefit from it.

    For most blue collars, a few hundred here or there are nice... but the thousands that could be saved by addressing health care and educational costs would be more of an economic relief.  You speak of growing a depleted military - check out the numbers on what has happened to the middle class the past 35 years.     Imagine the economic boom if wages had kept up the past 20 years.

    Also, to be clear since it is econ 101, wealthy people in and of themselves don't create jobs - demand does.      Microsoft can sit on their empire of billions, but lets pretend that tomorrow Windows was replaced with a different OS which becomes industry standard.   Demand for their product and its support shrinks, their work-force, software engineers, design teams, support staff, administration... all of it, cut immensely.     Company and stock is immediately and sharply de-valued and their employment rate is cut nearly 50%.     Despite having one of the wealthiest men in the world as a founder, solid share prices and executive leadership all whom are of wealth...   wouldn't make much of a difference.           Demand is priority 1.  If your product isn't wanted or needed, your personal fortunate won't account for jackshit.   

    @tiamat63 said:

    For most blue collars, a few hundred here or there are nice... but the thousands that could be saved by addressing health care and educational costs would be more of an economic relief.  You speak of growing a depleted military - check out the numbers on what has happened to the middle class the past 35 years.     Imagine the economic boom if wages had kept up the past 20 years.

    Also, to be clear since it is econ 101, wealthy people in and of themselves don't create jobs - demand does.      Microsoft can sit on their empire of billions, but lets pretend that tomorrow Windows was replaced with a different OS which becomes industry standard.   Demand for their product and its support shrinks, their work-force, software engineers, design teams, support staff, administration... all of it, cut immensely.     Company and stock is immediately and sharply de-valued and their employment rate is cut nearly 50%.     Despite having one of the wealthiest men in the world as a founder, solid share prices and executive leadership all whom are of wealth...   wouldn't make much of a difference.           Demand is priority 1.  If your product isn't wanted or needed, your personal fortunate won't account for jackshit.   

    A poor man has never offered me a job.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    For most blue collars, a few hundred here or there are nice... but the thousands that could be saved by addressing health care and educational costs would be more of an economic relief.  You speak of growing a depleted military - check out the numbers on what has happened to the middle class the past 35 years.     Imagine the economic boom if wages had kept up the past 20 years.

    Also, to be clear since it is econ 101, wealthy people in and of themselves don't create jobs - demand does.      Microsoft can sit on their empire of billions, but lets pretend that tomorrow Windows was replaced with a different OS which becomes industry standard.   Demand for their product and its support shrinks, their work-force, software engineers, design teams, support staff, administration... all of it, cut immensely.     Company and stock is immediately and sharply de-valued and their employment rate is cut nearly 50%.     Despite having one of the wealthiest men in the world as a founder, solid share prices and executive leadership all whom are of wealth...   wouldn't make much of a difference.           Demand is priority 1.  If your product isn't wanted or needed, your personal fortunate won't account for jackshit.   

    A poor man has never offered me a job.

    @canton-dawg said:

    A poor man has never offered me a job.

    In the example I used of the owner of the frozen pizza business he didn't start out hiring hundreds of workers. That came later after he acquired wealth. The wealthier this person became the more he was able to invest back into his business and hire more employees.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    A poor man has never offered me a job.

    In the example I used of the owner of the frozen pizza business he didn't start out hiring hundreds of workers. That came later after he acquired wealth. The wealthier this person became the more he was able to invest back into his business and hire more employees.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    In the example I used of the owner of the frozen pizza business he didn't start out hiring hundreds of workers. That came later after he acquired wealth. The wealthier this person became the more he was able to invest back into his business and hire more employees.

    Would have the owner of the pizza business acquired said wealth without the demand for his product?   

    @canton-dawg said:

    A poor man has never offered me a job.

    Next time just gently throw the rock over your own head for me and quit wasting your time.  

  • Rolling up my sleeves...

    Opening my wallet....

    Joining the Texas Democratic Party.

    Trump's performance in the East Room today was fucking embarrassing.

    It's no longer enough to simply vote against the man.

    It's time to get to work and end the Trumpican Party this November before it ends this country... hopefully it can last that long.

    @tour2ma said:

    Rolling up my sleeves...

    Opening my wallet....

    Joining the Texas Democratic Party.

    Trump's performance in the East Room today was fucking embarrassing.

    It's no longer enough to simply vote against the man.

    It's time to get to work and end the Trumpican Party this November before it ends this country... hopefully it can last that long.

    ????

    Why am I not shocked.

    In other breaking news Barry Manilow has recently come out of the closet.

    WSS

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    In the example I used of the owner of the frozen pizza business he didn't start out hiring hundreds of workers. That came later after he acquired wealth. The wealthier this person became the more he was able to invest back into his business and hire more employees.

    Would have the owner of the pizza business acquired said wealth without the demand for his product?   

    @canton-dawg said:

    A poor man has never offered me a job.

    Next time just gently throw the rock over your own head for me and quit wasting your time.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Would have the owner of the pizza business acquired said wealth without the demand for his product?   

    Next time just gently throw the rock over your own head for me and quit wasting your time.  

    I agree with what you are saying. If you make a product and there is no demand for the product than it will just sit on the store shelf. So demand is a factor but not the only factor. If I were starting a business though one of the first things I would look at is there a demand for this product?

    I agree with the old saying that businesses do not pay taxes. Any tax or new tax on businesses will likely be shifted to the consumer with higher product prices and raising taxes on businesses is usually counter productive for consumers. So those wanting to "stick it to the man" by raising taxes on corporations are the ones who get stuck with higher consumer goods prices.

  • It is interesting to me a good portion of the wealthy in this country were able to convince the less well off that the middle class and poor are actually better off when the wealthy are taxes less. They've convinced the poor to fight for them as the wealth inequality continues to grow. Just throw in some "REAL AMERICA"s, the color red, and mention evil liberals and yours good to go 

    (Both sides suck and have flaws. I'm just referring to this case.)

  • It is interesting to me a good portion of the wealthy in this country were able to convince the less well off that the middle class and poor are actually better off when the wealthy are taxes less. They've convinced the poor to fight for them as the wealth inequality continues to grow. Just throw in some "REAL AMERICA"s, the color red, and mention evil liberals and yours good to go 

    (Both sides suck and have flaws. I'm just referring to this case.)

    @mld-woody said:

    It is interesting to me a good portion of the wealthy in this country were able to convince the less well off that the middle class and poor are actually better off when the wealthy are taxes less. They've convinced the poor to fight for them as the wealth inequality continues to grow. Just throw in some "REAL AMERICA"s, the color red, and mention evil liberals and yours good to go 

    (Both sides suck and have flaws. I'm just referring to this case.)

    US versus them right Woody? Just take away somebody else's dough and everything will be great. Hey, I wonder if we should surgically make people that are 6 foot 4 only five foot ten? You know just to be fair and all...

    ?‍♂️

    WSS