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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think it means if a private business does not want govt interference in how to run their business than it has to stay clear of taking any tax payer govt aid as almost all govt aid comes with strings attached. 

    If you are a private citizen who refuses to play ball with certain government entities, should they be able to yank your social security? 

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    @logicisforsquares said:

    If you are a private citizen who refuses to play ball with certain government entities, should they be able to yank your social security? 

    With each  post logic and reason diminishes and absurdity takes over..... from the guy with "logic" in his name.

    This is a black and white issue, no gray areas.. It is the duty of the Federal government to protect it's citizens. ICE is a federal law enforcement agency. Laws prohibiting attempts to undermine whether directly or indirectly are legit.

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      @logicisforsquares said:

      If you are a private citizen who refuses to play ball with certain government entities, should they be able to yank your social security? 

      With each  post logic and reason diminishes and absurdity takes over..... from the guy with "logic" in his name.

      This is a black and white issue, no gray areas.. It is the duty of the Federal government to protect it's citizens. ICE is a federal law enforcement agency. Laws prohibiting attempts to undermine whether directly or indirectly are legit.

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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      @gorka said:

      With each  post logic and reason diminishes and absurdity takes over..... from the guy with "logic" in his name.

      This is a black and white issue, no gray areas.. It is the duty of the Federal government to protect it's citizens. ICE is a federal law enforcement agency. Laws prohibiting attempts to undermine whether directly or indirectly are legit.

      Disagreeing with someone or a govt agency and choosing to withhold your business should be the right of every citizen/business. Whether that be having to bake a cake or offer banking services.

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        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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        I didn’t know so many comrades were here.

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        • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

          @gorka said:

          With each  post logic and reason diminishes and absurdity takes over..... from the guy with "logic" in his name.

          This is a black and white issue, no gray areas.. It is the duty of the Federal government to protect it's citizens. ICE is a federal law enforcement agency. Laws prohibiting attempts to undermine whether directly or indirectly are legit.

          Disagreeing with someone or a govt agency and choosing to withhold your business should be the right of every citizen/business. Whether that be having to bake a cake or offer banking services.

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          @logicisforsquares said:

          Disagreeing with someone or a govt agency and choosing to withhold your business should be the right of every citizen/business. Whether that be having to bake a cake or offer banking services.

          not in violation of federal immigration policy. by your...logic, Logic, businesses have the power to coerce the federal government to fail if they have a chance. Federal law, unless unConstitutional, rules. You can't not pay taxes because you "disagree with the gov".

          Banks are not a stand alone business - the loans are federally backed up. There are plenty of laws regulating the banking industry.

          Banks don't get to refuse to cooperate with the feds based on a dishonest whim of disobedience.

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            @logicisforsquares said:

            Disagreeing with someone or a govt agency and choosing to withhold your business should be the right of every citizen/business. Whether that be having to bake a cake or offer banking services.

            not in violation of federal immigration policy. by your...logic, Logic, businesses have the power to coerce the federal government to fail if they have a chance. Federal law, unless unConstitutional, rules. You can't not pay taxes because you "disagree with the gov".

            Banks are not a stand alone business - the loans are federally backed up. There are plenty of laws regulating the banking industry.

            Banks don't get to refuse to cooperate with the feds based on a dishonest whim of disobedience.

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            @calfoxwc said:

            not in violation of federal immigration policy. by your...logic, Logic, businesses have the power to coerce the federal government to fail if they have a chance. Federal law, unless unConstitutional, rules. You can't not pay taxes because you "disagree with the gov".

            Banks are not a stand alone business - the loans are federally backed up. There are plenty of laws regulating the banking industry.

            Banks don't get to refuse to cooperate with the feds based on a dishonest whim of disobedience.

            So Cal, if you ran a business and a Democrat in office needed supplies from your store to help them enforce gun laws (say supplies for building an ATF facility), you would do it and not ask them to maybe move along to another vendor?

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              I didn’t know so many comrades were here.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @logicisforsquares said:

              I didn’t know so many comrades were here.

              Next we're going to be told an individual needs to house troops in their home if the govt asks.

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                @calfoxwc said:

                not in violation of federal immigration policy. by your...logic, Logic, businesses have the power to coerce the federal government to fail if they have a chance. Federal law, unless unConstitutional, rules. You can't not pay taxes because you "disagree with the gov".

                Banks are not a stand alone business - the loans are federally backed up. There are plenty of laws regulating the banking industry.

                Banks don't get to refuse to cooperate with the feds based on a dishonest whim of disobedience.

                So Cal, if you ran a business and a Democrat in office needed supplies from your store to help them enforce gun laws (say supplies for building an ATF facility), you would do it and not ask them to maybe move along to another vendor?

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                @logicisforsquares said:

                So Cal, if you ran a business and a Democrat in office needed supplies from your store to help them enforce gun laws (say supplies for building an ATF facility), you would do it and not ask them to maybe move along to another vendor?

                you have to read my posts, Logic. the gun laws would be unConstitutional - further past where they are, they would be violating our Constitution. Illegal aliens violated our law by illegally coming here. Trying to stop ICE from enforcing perfectly justifiable law over left wing politics is just dangerous and corrupt.

                   you are trying to defend a business refusing to do biz with ICE over politically leftwing refusal to abide by Constitutional Law.

                   and "a democrat" is not a major Dept of our Government. I wouldn't do business with bloomberg, say, regardless.

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                  @logicisforsquares said:

                  So Cal, if you ran a business and a Democrat in office needed supplies from your store to help them enforce gun laws (say supplies for building an ATF facility), you would do it and not ask them to maybe move along to another vendor?

                  you have to read my posts, Logic. the gun laws would be unConstitutional - further past where they are, they would be violating our Constitution. Illegal aliens violated our law by illegally coming here. Trying to stop ICE from enforcing perfectly justifiable law over left wing politics is just dangerous and corrupt.

                     you are trying to defend a business refusing to do biz with ICE over politically leftwing refusal to abide by Constitutional Law.

                     and "a democrat" is not a major Dept of our Government. I wouldn't do business with bloomberg, say, regardless.

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                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  you have to read my posts, Logic. the gun laws would be unConstitutional - further past where they are, they would be violating our Constitution. Illegal aliens violated our law by illegally coming here. Trying to stop ICE from enforcing perfectly justifiable law over left wing politics is just dangerous and corrupt.

                     you are trying to defend a business refusing to do biz with ICE over politically leftwing refusal to abide by Constitutional Law.

                     and "a democrat" is not a major Dept of our Government. I wouldn't do business with bloomberg, say, regardless.

                  If the gun laws were passed, they were clearly able to pass the constitutional sniff test. Cal, you are playing mental gymnastics because the banks are opposed to laws you like.

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                    @logicisforsquares said:

                    I didn’t know so many comrades were here.

                    Next we're going to be told an individual needs to house troops in their home if the govt asks.

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                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    Next we're going to be told an individual needs to house troops in their home if the govt asks.

                    Well we wouldn’t want to upset the crown and their men.

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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      you have to read my posts, Logic. the gun laws would be unConstitutional - further past where they are, they would be violating our Constitution. Illegal aliens violated our law by illegally coming here. Trying to stop ICE from enforcing perfectly justifiable law over left wing politics is just dangerous and corrupt.

                         you are trying to defend a business refusing to do biz with ICE over politically leftwing refusal to abide by Constitutional Law.

                         and "a democrat" is not a major Dept of our Government. I wouldn't do business with bloomberg, say, regardless.

                      If the gun laws were passed, they were clearly able to pass the constitutional sniff test. Cal, you are playing mental gymnastics because the banks are opposed to laws you like.

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                      @logicisforsquares said:

                      If the gun laws were passed, they were clearly able to pass the constitutional sniff test. Cal, you are playing mental gymnastics because the banks are opposed to laws you like.

                      no, I'm not. "shall not be infringed" doesn't mean "whatever gun control you want, it's fine.".

                      you know that. Here:

                      If ICE was acting illegally, beating up innocent people, raiding homes based on false red flag reports and kidnapping women, etc...

                      I certainly would not contribute to that.

                      But ICE is following our justified immigration law. There is no legit claim of objection. Corrupt political motives are not allowed.

                      Try this:

                         In the military, you are not to follow an illegal order. Now, if a commander says "shoot that innocent boy over there", of course, you tell him you will not, why,  and refuse.

                         but you can't refuse to dig a ditch because you don't want to, by saying it's an illegal order. that is nonsense.

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                        https://www.theblaze.com/news/video-granddaughter-of-elderly-hispanic-woman-slain-by-illegal-immigrant-slams-sanctuary-law

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                        • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                          @gorka said:

                          With each  post logic and reason diminishes and absurdity takes over..... from the guy with "logic" in his name.

                          This is a black and white issue, no gray areas.. It is the duty of the Federal government to protect it's citizens. ICE is a federal law enforcement agency. Laws prohibiting attempts to undermine whether directly or indirectly are legit.

                          Disagreeing with someone or a govt agency and choosing to withhold your business should be the right of every citizen/business. Whether that be having to bake a cake or offer banking services.

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                          GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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                          @logicisforsquares said:

                          Disagreeing with someone or a govt agency and choosing to withhold your business should be the right of every citizen/business. Whether that be having to bake a cake or offer banking services.

                          Disagreeing based on what reasons tho?  Behind every disagreement there are reasons. If there was compelling rationale behind the banks refusal to withhold business, then I would listen. But there aren't any.

                          Feelings, compassion, emotions toward those (as Nany Pelosi put it) "little bundles of love" aren't sufficient enough reasons.

                          But I know what you're going to say...that there doesn't have to be a reason.

                          And baking a cake has nothing to with providing for common good (for the benefit of all) of all citizens...as does military, law enforcement..

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