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  • @icecube said:

    Signs show he hasn't been all that focused on football.

    There was a huge lack of discipline last season which I blame Kitchens for and that had to have a negative effect on Mayfield. I'm hoping Stefanski can get Mayfield back on track. I read this below about Stefanski and his work with Case Keenum which gives me hope in Mayfield's case. 

     "Perhaps Stefanski's best work came in 2017, when the Vikings were forced to go to their backup, Case Keenum, early in the season after starter Sam Bradford went down with an injury. Keenum, a journeyman backup who had completed 58 percent of his passes and amassed a record of 9-15 at his previous stops, went on to complete nearly 68 percent of his throws with 22 touchdowns and seven interceptions while leading the Vikings to a record of 11-3."

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    There was a huge lack of discipline last season which I blame Kitchens for and that had to have a negative effect on Mayfield. I'm hoping Stefanski can get Mayfield back on track. I read this below about Stefanski and his work with Case Keenum which gives me hope in Mayfield's case. 

     "Perhaps Stefanski's best work came in 2017, when the Vikings were forced to go to their backup, Case Keenum, early in the season after starter Sam Bradford went down with an injury. Keenum, a journeyman backup who had completed 58 percent of his passes and amassed a record of 9-15 at his previous stops, went on to complete nearly 68 percent of his throws with 22 touchdowns and seven interceptions while leading the Vikings to a record of 11-3."

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-things-to-know-about-kevin-stefanski

    I hope he can provide team discipline and focus. It damn sure is needed. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    FIFY!?

    @flugel said:

    Are you trying to make us feel better or worse about the evolution to a Twittiot with a magic carpet ride on top of his dome?

    The only difference in cover-up is the current First Lady doesn't understand English yet. Not that she's ever had to or anything. 

    Just sayin'...

    LOL.. As sure as shit I predicted this.

    Too bad you two dingleberries didn't give some thought to your responses before they reached your fingertips.

    Both Kennedy and Clinton had affairs in office as President of the United States...one such sexcapade in the Oval Office with Clinton...on your time, on my time.

    Trumps took place as a private citizen. If you can't discern the glaring difference too bad for you.

    I bet both you guys fuck around too.

    @gorka said:

    LOL.. As sure as shit I predicted this.

    I bet both you guys fuck around too.

    And you would be wrong. In fact I'm kind of an old fashioned romantic. Indeed yesterday, Valentine's Day, was my wife and my 50th Wedding Anniversary. 

    And I guarantee you that some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life were in Vietnam and Spain. There was this one on the Metro in Barcelona, Spain I might have run off with had my wife not been right there watching me like a hawk. So I won't lie and say I've never read the menu.??

  • @mjp28 said:

    Yeah I guess because he's THE man under center and the BROWNS only hope right now to do anything.

    Plus it is February 15 and not much else to report.

    I'm still holding out hope Mayfield might be the quarterback we have been seeking since 99. 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I'm still holding out hope Mayfield might be the quarterback we have been seeking since 99. 

  • @flugel said:

    Are you trying to make us feel better or worse about the evolution to a Twittiot with a magic carpet ride on top of his dome?

    The only difference in cover-up is the current First Lady doesn't understand English yet. Not that she's ever had to or anything. 

    Just sayin'...

    Come on Flugel the current first lady reportedly can speak 5 different languages. 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/a-crash-course-on-melania-trump/12/

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Come on Flugel the current first lady reportedly can speak 5 different languages. 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/a-crash-course-on-melania-trump/12/

    So can Ghoolie.  Now can we focus on languages that actually exist? 

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Come on Flugel the current first lady reportedly can speak 5 different languages. 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/a-crash-course-on-melania-trump/12/

    So can Ghoolie.  Now can we focus on languages that actually exist? 

    @flugel said:

    So can Ghoolie.  Now can we focus on languages that actually exist? 

    You mean like Klingon and Dothraki?

  • @flugel said:

    So can Ghoolie.  Now can we focus on languages that actually exist? 

    You mean like Klingon and Dothraki?

    @the-gipper said:

    You mean like Klingon and Dothraki?

    The Dothraki are nomadic horse-mounted warriors, who sweep across the vast central plains of Essos in search of plunder. Most of their society is centered around their horses: even their name for themselves in their own language, "Dothraki", literally means "riders".

    ?

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Yeah well, we'll see. To me this is indicative of a larger problem. Do you think this happened with one chic? Heck no. If it's true, and it looks like it is, Baker probably hooked up with tons of chics while engaged or married. Why does this matter? It speaks to character. You can say that athletes have done this for eternity and you'd be right, but I still think it could cause him problems. What if he gets a divorce? How does it affect his training? His concentration? When your life is going to crap, your work always suffers. 

    Again, I hope I'm wrong. But this feels like the tip of the iceberg. And yeah....this should not be anyone's business but Baker's, but welcome to the internet age where everyone knows everything. 

    The only  thing  that  matters is  what Emily  thinks about it,  assuming  it's  true. 

    FWIW, Russell Wilson  got divorced  and it  hasn't  seemed to  affect his  on field  play  any. 

    @hoorta said:

    The only  thing  that  matters is  what Emily  thinks about it,  assuming  it's  true. 

    FWIW, Russell Wilson  got divorced  and it  hasn't  seemed to  affect his  on field  play  any. 

    So, what point are you trying to make? Everyone handles things differently.

  • @flugel said:

    So can Ghoolie.  Now can we focus on languages that actually exist? 

    You mean like Klingon and Dothraki?

    @the-gipper said:

    You mean like Klingon and Dothraki?

    Or about the 4-5 functional languages Tolkien created for kicks and giggles when he wrote  Lord of the Rings? Quenya, Numenorian,  and black speech? 

  • N Neo

    @hoorta said:

    The only  thing  that  matters is  what Emily  thinks about it,  assuming  it's  true. 

    FWIW, Russell Wilson  got divorced  and it  hasn't  seemed to  affect his  on field  play  any. 

    So, what point are you trying to make? Everyone handles things differently.

    @neo said:

    So, what point are you trying to make? Everyone handles things differently.

    Exactly  my point,  doesn't  matter what any of us think. Or how this might  or might not affect  Baker.

    So far, we have one interview unsubstanciated on a dirt digging  website. 

  • I see Gorka crawled out from whatever rock he was under again.... 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I see Gorka crawled out from whatever rock he was under again.... 

    That poor guy.  Dumbbells just shouldn't use dumbbells even if their keyboards are on steroids.

    I guess I got an answer to my question about Clinton's infidelity as to whether or not Gork's political picture was supposed to make us feel better or worse about Trump.   Cheating on a spouse multiple times is fine if it's before he was a President; and more importantly, if he's in the right political party.  Not that I'm perfect; but if one CARED about anyone other than himself - he'd do the right thing and end the marriage.

    For the record, I didn't start the political stuff in this thread about our QB. 

  • @nickers said:

    You mean since Bill canned Bernie!!..

    Mayfield had a great rookie season than he regressed this past season. I am hoping much of that regression was due to our former HC. I think we will know more this season.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Mayfield had a great rookie season than he regressed this past season. I am hoping much of that regression was due to our former HC. I think we will know more this season.

    Aside from having 4 different OCs (Hue,Haley,Freddie,Monken) and 2 different QB Coaches by the time he finished the 1st game of his 2nd NFL season - I also blame Baker too for how he handled his brief success.

    He spent more of his off season planning for his wedding/bachelor parties as well as doing multiple commercials because of the early success.  And when he's chugging beer for a camera at an Indian's game - this clearly wasn't the same guy who showed up to his rookie year with something to prove.  After winning the Heisman, he by-passed the Heisman Banquet circuit to prepare himself for the NFL.  He came in humble and ready to go to work.  That was HUGE toward setting the rookie record for TD passes especially on a team coming off 0-16 football.

    But, like one of my old coaches reminded us  - "If you fail to prepare; then prepare to fail."  This game rewards the hungry on and off the field.  If we're being honest about Baker - he showed up way too content in 2019 with his prior success. He also had a beer belly.  That's on him.

    Having said all that, I get the impression he always pushes himself more when he feels he has to prove himself to a lot of people. We already know about the college stuff but even as a rookie he wasn't handed the starting job on day 1.  One of the few things Hue did right; although that was 1 year after he gave Kizer the starting job on opening day.

    Anyway, is it possible Baker just woke up a horrible QB?  I guess it could be just as possible as former MLB Pitcher Ricky Ankiel completely losing his muscle memory and control of his pitches.  That said, if one ever read that story - there was a work ethic and competitive will in the guy to re-invent himself into a successful player at another position.  Point is, if the NFL is really Baker's dream - I expect to see more of the guy we enjoyed as a rookie than the lost soul we witnessed in 2019.

    As we've learned over the years, it's a dis-service to a young QB to put them into an offense that's incompatible to their talent and skills so if Baker is going to go on and succeed - this organization CANNOT rip out the entire foundation of QB Coach, OC, OL Coach and everything they've NFL potty trained him in or they're going to ruin him.  It's a short window in this league that can slam shut really quick.  If Baltimore just handcuffed Lamar Jackson to a pocket only - there would have never been any need to change from Joey Bottaflacco. Some of this is homer; but some of this is I know WTF I watched when I saw a rookie make our OL look better in pass pro via his being decisive and accurate with his quick throws.  That happens when one is prepared.  That reminded me of Drew Brees not Brett Favre.  In 2019 when I saw him forcing a pass off a backward hop - that reminded me of Brett Favre without Farve's arm strength on that type of horrible mechanic. That happened because he wasn't prepared.  Just as Lamar Jackson's success hinges on what the coaching staff allows him to achieve - so does Baker's as long as he re-commits himself to the dream.  Last year showed him just how quickly a dream can turn into a nightmare so he needs to remember why he became a 1st overall pick we were very happy with in 2018.  I think this is doable...

  • What kind of person and man is Baker? It's nothing illegal, but, honestly, are you OK with this kind of sordid behavior from your team leader? Are you now comfortable with wearing his jersey? How will/did you describe this behavior to your 10 year-old daughter? Do you tell your son this is OK behavior? Will you allow your children to wear Baker's jersey? 

    @icecube said:

    What kind of person and man is Baker? It's nothing illegal, but, honestly, are you OK with this kind of sordid behavior from your team leader? Are you now comfortable with wearing his jersey? How will/did you describe this behavior to your 10 year-old daughter? Do you tell your son this is OK behavior? Will you allow your children to wear Baker's jersey? 

    I lived in Western NY when the same question was asked about their young QB Jim Kelly when they were being called the Bickering Bills. Rumor had it the young Irish QB liked to party prolly as as much as Brett Favre did in Atlanta.   Having said that, both QBs were allowed to learn from their mistakes and get it right - which they did.  I doubt either stopped drinking during the season - they just learned the time to play hard off the field was after they worked hard on it.  Kelly started to throw huge parties at his house to celebrate the wins with teammates and keep any knuckleheads off the road that shouldn't have been on it. 

    Baker is at a point where they were early on.  Not everyone has to end up like Johnny Manziel as much as people can't wait to point him out.  I think Baker showed us what's possible when he gets back to prioritizing football.  Manziel never had to walk-on and prove himself anywhere.  It sounds like he came from a lot of money to the extent he never had to work hard at anything.  When the NFL demanded that of him - oh-oh!

    And let's not get all Colin Cowherd-level and forget the stories of him speaking at a little girl's funeral that he impacted in a very positive way.  Or, lose sight of him delivering Christmas gifts to needy families in Cleveland when you ask if people will allow your children would wear his jersey.  Did people in Pittsburgh let their kid's wear #7 jerseys when Rooney had to take him aside and inform him a victim inventory of 2 is a trend that won't give him a 3rd strike in the batter's box.  Cowherd also liked to announce as often as possible that Baker wasn't beating any good NFL teams in 2018, which would have been fine if the rookie QB didn't take over an 0-16 team that was winless and facing a 14 point deficit he erased the very first time he took the field.  Watching Baker cpr this franchise and fanbase to realistic confidence is the closest thing you'll see to someone walking on water in Cleveland. 

    Let's see what happens moving forward here...

  • @gorka said:

    LOL.. As sure as shit I predicted this.

    I bet both you guys fuck around too.

    And you would be wrong. In fact I'm kind of an old fashioned romantic. Indeed yesterday, Valentine's Day, was my wife and my 50th Wedding Anniversary. 

    And I guarantee you that some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life were in Vietnam and Spain. There was this one on the Metro in Barcelona, Spain I might have run off with had my wife not been right there watching me like a hawk. So I won't lie and say I've never read the menu.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    And you would be wrong. In fact I'm kind of an old fashioned romantic. Indeed yesterday, Valentine's Day, was my wife and my 50th Wedding Anniversary. 

    And I guarantee you that some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life were in Vietnam and Spain. There was this one on the Metro in Barcelona, Spain I might have run off with had my wife not been right there watching me like a hawk. So I won't lie and say I've never read the menu.??

    Congratulations!

    I absolutely adore Thai women.  Spent a couple days in Bangkok back in the day.

    ...but that was before I was married.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Mayfield had a great rookie season than he regressed this past season. I am hoping much of that regression was due to our former HC. I think we will know more this season.

    Aside from having 4 different OCs (Hue,Haley,Freddie,Monken) and 2 different QB Coaches by the time he finished the 1st game of his 2nd NFL season - I also blame Baker too for how he handled his brief success.

    He spent more of his off season planning for his wedding/bachelor parties as well as doing multiple commercials because of the early success.  And when he's chugging beer for a camera at an Indian's game - this clearly wasn't the same guy who showed up to his rookie year with something to prove.  After winning the Heisman, he by-passed the Heisman Banquet circuit to prepare himself for the NFL.  He came in humble and ready to go to work.  That was HUGE toward setting the rookie record for TD passes especially on a team coming off 0-16 football.

    But, like one of my old coaches reminded us  - "If you fail to prepare; then prepare to fail."  This game rewards the hungry on and off the field.  If we're being honest about Baker - he showed up way too content in 2019 with his prior success. He also had a beer belly.  That's on him.

    Having said all that, I get the impression he always pushes himself more when he feels he has to prove himself to a lot of people. We already know about the college stuff but even as a rookie he wasn't handed the starting job on day 1.  One of the few things Hue did right; although that was 1 year after he gave Kizer the starting job on opening day.

    Anyway, is it possible Baker just woke up a horrible QB?  I guess it could be just as possible as former MLB Pitcher Ricky Ankiel completely losing his muscle memory and control of his pitches.  That said, if one ever read that story - there was a work ethic and competitive will in the guy to re-invent himself into a successful player at another position.  Point is, if the NFL is really Baker's dream - I expect to see more of the guy we enjoyed as a rookie than the lost soul we witnessed in 2019.

    As we've learned over the years, it's a dis-service to a young QB to put them into an offense that's incompatible to their talent and skills so if Baker is going to go on and succeed - this organization CANNOT rip out the entire foundation of QB Coach, OC, OL Coach and everything they've NFL potty trained him in or they're going to ruin him.  It's a short window in this league that can slam shut really quick.  If Baltimore just handcuffed Lamar Jackson to a pocket only - there would have never been any need to change from Joey Bottaflacco. Some of this is homer; but some of this is I know WTF I watched when I saw a rookie make our OL look better in pass pro via his being decisive and accurate with his quick throws.  That happens when one is prepared.  That reminded me of Drew Brees not Brett Favre.  In 2019 when I saw him forcing a pass off a backward hop - that reminded me of Brett Favre without Farve's arm strength on that type of horrible mechanic. That happened because he wasn't prepared.  Just as Lamar Jackson's success hinges on what the coaching staff allows him to achieve - so does Baker's as long as he re-commits himself to the dream.  Last year showed him just how quickly a dream can turn into a nightmare so he needs to remember why he became a 1st overall pick we were very happy with in 2018.  I think this is doable...

    @flugel said:

    Aside from having 4 different OCs (Hue,Haley,Freddie,Monken) and 2 different QB Coaches by the time he finished the 1st game of his 2nd NFL season - I also blame Baker too for how he handled his brief success.

    He spent more of his off season planning for his wedding/bachelor parties as well as doing multiple commercials because of the early success.  And when he's chugging beer for a camera at an Indian's game - this clearly wasn't the same guy who showed up to his rookie year with something to prove.  After winning the Heisman, he by-passed the Heisman Banquet circuit to prepare himself for the NFL.  He came in humble and ready to go to work.  That was HUGE toward setting the rookie record for TD passes especially on a team coming off 0-16 football.

    But, like one of my old coaches reminded us  - "If you fail to prepare; then prepare to fail."  This game rewards the hungry on and off the field.  If we're being honest about Baker - he showed up way too content in 2019 with his prior success. He also had a beer belly.  That's on him.

    Having said all that, I get the impression he always pushes himself more when he feels he has to prove himself to a lot of people. We already know about the college stuff but even as a rookie he wasn't handed the starting job on day 1.  One of the few things Hue did right; although that was 1 year after he gave Kizer the starting job on opening day.

    Anyway, is it possible Baker just woke up a horrible QB?  I guess it could be just as possible as former MLB Pitcher Ricky Ankiel completely losing his muscle memory and control of his pitches.  That said, if one ever read that story - there was a work ethic and competitive will in the guy to re-invent himself into a successful player at another position.  Point is, if the NFL is really Baker's dream - I expect to see more of the guy we enjoyed as a rookie than the lost soul we witnessed in 2019.

    As we've learned over the years, it's a dis-service to a young QB to put them into an offense that's incompatible to their talent and skills so if Baker is going to go on and succeed - this organization CANNOT rip out the entire foundation of QB Coach, OC, OL Coach and everything they've NFL potty trained him in or they're going to ruin him.  It's a short window in this league that can slam shut really quick.  If Baltimore just handcuffed Lamar Jackson to a pocket only - there would have never been any need to change from Joey Bottaflacco. Some of this is homer; but some of this is I know WTF I watched when I saw a rookie make our OL look better in pass pro via his being decisive and accurate with his quick throws.  That happens when one is prepared.  That reminded me of Drew Brees not Brett Favre.  In 2019 when I saw him forcing a pass off a backward hop - that reminded me of Brett Favre without Farve's arm strength on that type of horrible mechanic. That happened because he wasn't prepared.  Just as Lamar Jackson's success hinges on what the coaching staff allows him to achieve - so does Baker's as long as he re-commits himself to the dream.  Last year showed him just how quickly a dream can turn into a nightmare so he needs to remember why he became a 1st overall pick we were very happy with in 2018.  I think this is doable...

    Good analysis Flugel.

    "But, like one of my old coaches reminded us  - "If you fail to prepare; then prepare to fail."  

    Like many other football lessons this is another one that would apply to about everything else we do in life. 

    Stefanski was not my first choice I would have liked to have seen for the Browns HC but the more I read up on him the better I liked him. I think now he was a solid pick and brings a lot to the table. I like something Stefanski said about it wasn't the plays being called but the execution of the plays (although with our former HC at times it was the plays that were being called). I think Stefanski is going to help Mayfield execute better as a QB with the mechanics and fundamentals. I look forward to seeing a more disciplined team this year "executing" their individual assignments and playing smarter football in general.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And you would be wrong. In fact I'm kind of an old fashioned romantic. Indeed yesterday, Valentine's Day, was my wife and my 50th Wedding Anniversary. 

    And I guarantee you that some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life were in Vietnam and Spain. There was this one on the Metro in Barcelona, Spain I might have run off with had my wife not been right there watching me like a hawk. So I won't lie and say I've never read the menu.??

    Congratulations!

    I absolutely adore Thai women.  Spent a couple days in Bangkok back in the day.

    ...but that was before I was married.

    @gorka said:

    Congratulations!

    I absolutely adore Thai women.  Spent a couple days in Bangkok back in the day.

    ...but that was before I was married.

    Thanks Gorka! ? I was married before I went to Vietnam and came back to Nha Trang from the field once a month to get paid. Guys would line up with women to be checked through security on payday night. There were some really beautiful women in tow, but I never gave in to that temptation like other married friends of mine. Not in my DNA.

    BTW are you the guy that wrote the song?

    "One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble
    Not much between despair and ecstasy
    One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble
    Can't be too careful with your company
    I can feel the devil walking next to me" ?

  • @gorka said:

    Congratulations!

    I absolutely adore Thai women.  Spent a couple days in Bangkok back in the day.

    ...but that was before I was married.

    Thanks Gorka! ? I was married before I went to Vietnam and came back to Nha Trang from the field once a month to get paid. Guys would line up with women to be checked through security on payday night. There were some really beautiful women in tow, but I never gave in to that temptation like other married friends of mine. Not in my DNA.

    BTW are you the guy that wrote the song?

    "One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble
    Not much between despair and ecstasy
    One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble
    Can't be too careful with your company
    I can feel the devil walking next to me" ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Thanks Gorka! ? I was married before I went to Vietnam and came back to Nha Trang from the field once a month to get paid. Guys would line up with women to be checked through security on payday night. There were some really beautiful women in tow, but I never gave in to that temptation like other married friends of mine. Not in my DNA.

    BTW are you the guy that wrote the song?

    "One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble
    Not much between despair and ecstasy
    One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble
    Can't be too careful with your company
    I can feel the devil walking next to me" ?

    Lol...no, but one night in Bangkok certainly does make a man hard.

  • @flugel said:

    Aside from having 4 different OCs (Hue,Haley,Freddie,Monken) and 2 different QB Coaches by the time he finished the 1st game of his 2nd NFL season - I also blame Baker too for how he handled his brief success.

    He spent more of his off season planning for his wedding/bachelor parties as well as doing multiple commercials because of the early success.  And when he's chugging beer for a camera at an Indian's game - this clearly wasn't the same guy who showed up to his rookie year with something to prove.  After winning the Heisman, he by-passed the Heisman Banquet circuit to prepare himself for the NFL.  He came in humble and ready to go to work.  That was HUGE toward setting the rookie record for TD passes especially on a team coming off 0-16 football.

    But, like one of my old coaches reminded us  - "If you fail to prepare; then prepare to fail."  This game rewards the hungry on and off the field.  If we're being honest about Baker - he showed up way too content in 2019 with his prior success. He also had a beer belly.  That's on him.

    Having said all that, I get the impression he always pushes himself more when he feels he has to prove himself to a lot of people. We already know about the college stuff but even as a rookie he wasn't handed the starting job on day 1.  One of the few things Hue did right; although that was 1 year after he gave Kizer the starting job on opening day.

    Anyway, is it possible Baker just woke up a horrible QB?  I guess it could be just as possible as former MLB Pitcher Ricky Ankiel completely losing his muscle memory and control of his pitches.  That said, if one ever read that story - there was a work ethic and competitive will in the guy to re-invent himself into a successful player at another position.  Point is, if the NFL is really Baker's dream - I expect to see more of the guy we enjoyed as a rookie than the lost soul we witnessed in 2019.

    As we've learned over the years, it's a dis-service to a young QB to put them into an offense that's incompatible to their talent and skills so if Baker is going to go on and succeed - this organization CANNOT rip out the entire foundation of QB Coach, OC, OL Coach and everything they've NFL potty trained him in or they're going to ruin him.  It's a short window in this league that can slam shut really quick.  If Baltimore just handcuffed Lamar Jackson to a pocket only - there would have never been any need to change from Joey Bottaflacco. Some of this is homer; but some of this is I know WTF I watched when I saw a rookie make our OL look better in pass pro via his being decisive and accurate with his quick throws.  That happens when one is prepared.  That reminded me of Drew Brees not Brett Favre.  In 2019 when I saw him forcing a pass off a backward hop - that reminded me of Brett Favre without Farve's arm strength on that type of horrible mechanic. That happened because he wasn't prepared.  Just as Lamar Jackson's success hinges on what the coaching staff allows him to achieve - so does Baker's as long as he re-commits himself to the dream.  Last year showed him just how quickly a dream can turn into a nightmare so he needs to remember why he became a 1st overall pick we were very happy with in 2018.  I think this is doable...

    Good analysis Flugel.

    "But, like one of my old coaches reminded us  - "If you fail to prepare; then prepare to fail."  

    Like many other football lessons this is another one that would apply to about everything else we do in life. 

    Stefanski was not my first choice I would have liked to have seen for the Browns HC but the more I read up on him the better I liked him. I think now he was a solid pick and brings a lot to the table. I like something Stefanski said about it wasn't the plays being called but the execution of the plays (although with our former HC at times it was the plays that were being called). I think Stefanski is going to help Mayfield execute better as a QB with the mechanics and fundamentals. I look forward to seeing a more disciplined team this year "executing" their individual assignments and playing smarter football in general.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Good analysis Flugel.

    "But, like one of my old coaches reminded us  - "If you fail to prepare; then prepare to fail."  

    Like many other football lessons this is another one that would apply to about everything else we do in life. 

    Stefanski was not my first choice I would have liked to have seen for the Browns HC but the more I read up on him the better I liked him. I think now he was a solid pick and brings a lot to the table. I like something Stefanski said about it wasn't the plays being called but the execution of the plays (although with our former HC at times it was the plays that were being called). I think Stefanski is going to help Mayfield execute better as a QB with the mechanics and fundamentals. I look forward to seeing a more disciplined team this year "executing" their individual assignments and playing smarter football in general.

    Thanks OBF!  You make some excellent points about Stefanski!   I wasn't all that pumped about him at first but after a couple big exhales -  he's growing on me too!  I've always bet with my heart and paid through my nose doing so; but I feel like we have a big enough nucleus of talent to win with under the right leadership.

    The thing I like most right now is I get the sense we're not hiring a HC to be just an OC again.  I don't give a rat about his previous play calling because it's irrelevant.   What I like is his extensive experience as well as working as a QB Coach and a TE Coach before he was promoted to an OC.  He also did a great job tapping Case Keenum better than anyone was able to do before him. 

    Best of all?  I've noticed how many of his former coaching peers that were with Minnesota or ones that went elsewhere are excited to come and rejoin/work under him despite all the recent turnover (and Jimmy's reputation).  That could also mean they think we have enough talent to win with.  IMO, our defense played their best football the night MG got suspended.  The pressure was great up front while the DEs were applying text book clamp at the depth of the QB drop. We may not have had many, if any sacks from Garrett but created the success from all up front that night.  The other edge rush was also well done.  As soon as we lost him, we also lost Vernon and backup Chad Thomas which wasn't going to make us better or adequate.  It would be nice to add some veteran safety help via FA and address other weaknesses/depth issues via the draft. Anyway, we'll get everyone back healthy for the new coaching staff to coach up. 

    I think Stefanski will have a better eye on the bigger picture than Freddie was capable of just in the way he is setting things up.  He also seems like the type of guy that will be comfortable empowering the guys he's hired to coach and coordinate what he expects from them. Last year turned into a lost episode of the Hee Haw show; and the players inevitably lost confidence in the coaching staff.

  • Zombo said:

    I'm totally fine with it. If Brian Sipe had gotten a hummer from a local behind a Howard Johnson's in 1978 it would not have changed my life.

    Z

    Yeah like it doesn't happen everyday by women of all kinds giving men from every walk of life......often for cash.

    Too bad it's the February topic of the month but better than September I guess.   Oh well.......

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Good analysis Flugel.

    "But, like one of my old coaches reminded us  - "If you fail to prepare; then prepare to fail."  

    Like many other football lessons this is another one that would apply to about everything else we do in life. 

    Stefanski was not my first choice I would have liked to have seen for the Browns HC but the more I read up on him the better I liked him. I think now he was a solid pick and brings a lot to the table. I like something Stefanski said about it wasn't the plays being called but the execution of the plays (although with our former HC at times it was the plays that were being called). I think Stefanski is going to help Mayfield execute better as a QB with the mechanics and fundamentals. I look forward to seeing a more disciplined team this year "executing" their individual assignments and playing smarter football in general.

    Thanks OBF!  You make some excellent points about Stefanski!   I wasn't all that pumped about him at first but after a couple big exhales -  he's growing on me too!  I've always bet with my heart and paid through my nose doing so; but I feel like we have a big enough nucleus of talent to win with under the right leadership.

    The thing I like most right now is I get the sense we're not hiring a HC to be just an OC again.  I don't give a rat about his previous play calling because it's irrelevant.   What I like is his extensive experience as well as working as a QB Coach and a TE Coach before he was promoted to an OC.  He also did a great job tapping Case Keenum better than anyone was able to do before him. 

    Best of all?  I've noticed how many of his former coaching peers that were with Minnesota or ones that went elsewhere are excited to come and rejoin/work under him despite all the recent turnover (and Jimmy's reputation).  That could also mean they think we have enough talent to win with.  IMO, our defense played their best football the night MG got suspended.  The pressure was great up front while the DEs were applying text book clamp at the depth of the QB drop. We may not have had many, if any sacks from Garrett but created the success from all up front that night.  The other edge rush was also well done.  As soon as we lost him, we also lost Vernon and backup Chad Thomas which wasn't going to make us better or adequate.  It would be nice to add some veteran safety help via FA and address other weaknesses/depth issues via the draft. Anyway, we'll get everyone back healthy for the new coaching staff to coach up. 

    I think Stefanski will have a better eye on the bigger picture than Freddie was capable of just in the way he is setting things up.  He also seems like the type of guy that will be comfortable empowering the guys he's hired to coach and coordinate what he expects from them. Last year turned into a lost episode of the Hee Haw show; and the players inevitably lost confidence in the coaching staff.

    @flugel said:

    Thanks OBF!  You make some excellent points about Stefanski!   I wasn't all that pumped about him at first but after a couple big exhales -  he's growing on me too!  I've always bet with my heart and paid through my nose doing so; but I feel like we have a big enough nucleus of talent to win with under the right leadership.

    The thing I like most right now is I get the sense we're not hiring a HC to be just an OC again.  I don't give a rat about his previous play calling because it's irrelevant.   What I like is his extensive experience as well as working as a QB Coach and a TE Coach before he was promoted to an OC.  He also did a great job tapping Case Keenum better than anyone was able to do before him. 

    Best of all?  I've noticed how many of his former coaching peers that were with Minnesota or ones that went elsewhere are excited to come and rejoin/work under him despite all the recent turnover (and Jimmy's reputation).  That could also mean they think we have enough talent to win with.  IMO, our defense played their best football the night MG got suspended.  The pressure was great up front while the DEs were applying text book clamp at the depth of the QB drop. We may not have had many, if any sacks from Garrett but created the success from all up front that night.  The other edge rush was also well done.  As soon as we lost him, we also lost Vernon and backup Chad Thomas which wasn't going to make us better or adequate.  It would be nice to add some veteran showafety help via FA and address other weaknesses/depth issues via the draft. Anyway, we'll get everyone back healthy for the new coaching staff to coach up. 

    I think Stefanski will have a better eye on the bigger picture than Freddie was capable of just in the way he is setting things up.  He also seems like the type of guy that will be comfortable empowering the guys he's hired to coach and coordinate what he expects from them. Last year turned into a lost episode of the Hee Haw show; and the players inevitably lost confidence in the coaching staff.

    That game with Pittsburgh was great and could have been a major turning point for the rest of the season until with 7 seconds left Myles Garrett went postal, That game showed what we were capable of.I will say this I was impressed with Myles interview and I am ready to see this put in the rearview mirror now and to go forward. I am very happy to see his suspension not lasting into this season.

    We had our weakness particularly on the offensive line but we had enough talent and skill players there was no reason we should not have made the playoffs last season. I don't think we had enough talent to make a serious run in the playoffs and maybe we would have been one and done but we should have made the playoffs. And that would have been a great springboard going into next season.

    I agree I by the end of the season the players did lose confidence in the coaching staff.

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