Myles Garrett Reinstated
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Nothing can be proven either way. Rudolph tried to pull Garret's helmet off, and kneed Garrett in the groin at the same time. It is beyond fantasy to assume that he didn't' say something. What he said, no on knows except he and Garrett. I just know that Garrett's reaction to all three circumstances was volatile.
this keeps getting ignored in the media. I figure, sissy mason was irate at getting sacked, after being hurried, sacked...Garrett was making him miserable and po'd. 4 interceptions, 4 sacks for 43 yards loss, qb rating of 36.3
Why not guess that they wanted to bait Garrett to get him out of the game? Why the hell, after Garrett tackled him by pulling him down, instead of landing on him - and getting flagged... did blewdolph go apecrap enraged?
I say, because he was P*(&(*&^ frustrated, and they wanted Garrett out of the game. Try to rip Garrett's helmet off, calling him racist term, kick him in the groin, then for good measure, try to go after Garrett's face while he was being held. That make any sense either?
How can you try to rip off a defender's helmet, kick him in the groin - and then be enraged at the guy who tackled you again? well, Garrett did pull HIS helmet off in return...
but the clincher was, after getting bonked with his own helmet, he immediately turned for show to the ref. Sadly, Garrett took the bait.
and couldn't play vs the squealers in their game two weeks later. AND, watching the close up of mason later in the game afterwards, he had a bigass smile on his face.
https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2019111401
Pittsburgh Steelers Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate Mason Rudolph 44 23 221 5.0 1 4 22 4 43 36.3 this keeps getting ignored in the media. I figure, sissy mason was irate at getting sacked, after being hurried, sacked...Garrett was making him miserable and po'd. 4 interceptions, 4 sacks for 43 yards loss, qb rating of 36.3
Why not guess that they wanted to bait Garrett to get him out of the game? Why the hell, after Garrett tackled him by pulling him down, instead of landing on him - and getting flagged... did blewdolph go apecrap enraged?
I say, because he was P*(&(*&^ frustrated, and they wanted Garrett out of the game. Try to rip Garrett's helmet off, calling him racist term, kick him in the groin, then for good measure, try to go after Garrett's face while he was being held. That make any sense either?
How can you try to rip off a defender's helmet, kick him in the groin - and then be enraged at the guy who tackled you again? well, Garrett did pull HIS helmet off in return...
but the clincher was, after getting bonked with his own helmet, he immediately turned for show to the ref. Sadly, Garrett took the bait.
and couldn't play vs the squealers in their game two weeks later. AND, watching the close up of mason later in the game afterwards, he had a bigass smile on his face.
https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2019111401
Pittsburgh Steelers Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate Mason Rudolph 44 23 221 5.0 1 4 22 4 43 36.3 I agree with Garrett from this point: It was the last play of a game that was in the bag. Why was he in there in the first place? Poor coaching decision.
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Nothing can be proven either way. Rudolph tried to pull Garret's helmet off, and kneed Garrett in the groin at the same time. It is beyond fantasy to assume that he didn't' say something. What he said, no on knows except he and Garrett. I just know that Garrett's reaction to all three circumstances was volatile.
this keeps getting ignored in the media. I figure, sissy mason was irate at getting sacked, after being hurried, sacked...Garrett was making him miserable and po'd. 4 interceptions, 4 sacks for 43 yards loss, qb rating of 36.3
Why not guess that they wanted to bait Garrett to get him out of the game? Why the hell, after Garrett tackled him by pulling him down, instead of landing on him - and getting flagged... did blewdolph go apecrap enraged?
I say, because he was P*(&(*&^ frustrated, and they wanted Garrett out of the game. Try to rip Garrett's helmet off, calling him racist term, kick him in the groin, then for good measure, try to go after Garrett's face while he was being held. That make any sense either?
How can you try to rip off a defender's helmet, kick him in the groin - and then be enraged at the guy who tackled you again? well, Garrett did pull HIS helmet off in return...
but the clincher was, after getting bonked with his own helmet, he immediately turned for show to the ref. Sadly, Garrett took the bait.
and couldn't play vs the squealers in their game two weeks later. AND, watching the close up of mason later in the game afterwards, he had a bigass smile on his face.
https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2019111401
Pittsburgh Steelers Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate Mason Rudolph 44 23 221 5.0 1 4 22 4 43 36.3 this keeps getting ignored in the media. I figure, sissy mason was irate at getting sacked, after being hurried, sacked...Garrett was making him miserable and po'd. 4 interceptions, 4 sacks for 43 yards loss, qb rating of 36.3
Why not guess that they wanted to bait Garrett to get him out of the game? Why the hell, after Garrett tackled him by pulling him down, instead of landing on him - and getting flagged... did blewdolph go apecrap enraged?
I say, because he was P*(&(*&^ frustrated, and they wanted Garrett out of the game. Try to rip Garrett's helmet off, calling him racist term, kick him in the groin, then for good measure, try to go after Garrett's face while he was being held. That make any sense either?
How can you try to rip off a defender's helmet, kick him in the groin - and then be enraged at the guy who tackled you again? well, Garrett did pull HIS helmet off in return...
but the clincher was, after getting bonked with his own helmet, he immediately turned for show to the ref. Sadly, Garrett took the bait.
and couldn't play vs the squealers in their game two weeks later. AND, watching the close up of mason later in the game afterwards, he had a bigass smile on his face.
https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2019111401
Pittsburgh Steelers Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate Mason Rudolph 44 23 221 5.0 1 4 22 4 43 36.3 So with 8 seconds left, the Steelers as an organization came up with a plan in real time to single out a Browns' player, devise a game plan solely designed to get that player to react exactly as they intended by losing his cool and getting himself kicked out of the game as well as getting himself kicked out for the rematch just 2 weeks away, then assigned the roles to all players involved and all of them went out and executed that plan to perfection?
........... and to think Freddy had to call an offensive TO while coming out of a change of possession TV timeout.
Damn impressive. Tomlin is extremely underrated.
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this keeps getting ignored in the media. I figure, sissy mason was irate at getting sacked, after being hurried, sacked...Garrett was making him miserable and po'd. 4 interceptions, 4 sacks for 43 yards loss, qb rating of 36.3
Why not guess that they wanted to bait Garrett to get him out of the game? Why the hell, after Garrett tackled him by pulling him down, instead of landing on him - and getting flagged... did blewdolph go apecrap enraged?
I say, because he was P*(&(*&^ frustrated, and they wanted Garrett out of the game. Try to rip Garrett's helmet off, calling him racist term, kick him in the groin, then for good measure, try to go after Garrett's face while he was being held. That make any sense either?
How can you try to rip off a defender's helmet, kick him in the groin - and then be enraged at the guy who tackled you again? well, Garrett did pull HIS helmet off in return...
but the clincher was, after getting bonked with his own helmet, he immediately turned for show to the ref. Sadly, Garrett took the bait.
and couldn't play vs the squealers in their game two weeks later. AND, watching the close up of mason later in the game afterwards, he had a bigass smile on his face.
https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2019111401
Pittsburgh Steelers Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate Mason Rudolph 44 23 221 5.0 1 4 22 4 43 36.3 So with 8 seconds left, the Steelers as an organization came up with a plan in real time to single out a Browns' player, devise a game plan solely designed to get that player to react exactly as they intended by losing his cool and getting himself kicked out of the game as well as getting himself kicked out for the rematch just 2 weeks away, then assigned the roles to all players involved and all of them went out and executed that plan to perfection?
........... and to think Freddy had to call an offensive TO while coming out of a change of possession TV timeout.
Damn impressive. Tomlin is extremely underrated.
So with 8 seconds left, the Steelers as an organization came up with a plan in real time to single out a Browns' player, devise a game plan solely designed to get that player to react exactly as they intended by losing his cool and getting himself kicked out of the game as well as getting himself kicked out for the rematch just 2 weeks away, then assigned the roles to all players involved and all of them went out and executed that plan to perfection?
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Nothing can be proven either way. Rudolph tried to pull Garret's helmet off, and kneed Garrett in the groin at the same time. It is beyond fantasy to assume that he didn't' say something. What he said, no on knows except he and Garrett. I just know that Garrett's reaction to all three circumstances was volatile.
this keeps getting ignored in the media. I figure, sissy mason was irate at getting sacked, after being hurried, sacked...Garrett was making him miserable and po'd. 4 interceptions, 4 sacks for 43 yards loss, qb rating of 36.3
Why not guess that they wanted to bait Garrett to get him out of the game? Why the hell, after Garrett tackled him by pulling him down, instead of landing on him - and getting flagged... did blewdolph go apecrap enraged?
I say, because he was P*(&(*&^ frustrated, and they wanted Garrett out of the game. Try to rip Garrett's helmet off, calling him racist term, kick him in the groin, then for good measure, try to go after Garrett's face while he was being held. That make any sense either?
How can you try to rip off a defender's helmet, kick him in the groin - and then be enraged at the guy who tackled you again? well, Garrett did pull HIS helmet off in return...
but the clincher was, after getting bonked with his own helmet, he immediately turned for show to the ref. Sadly, Garrett took the bait.
and couldn't play vs the squealers in their game two weeks later. AND, watching the close up of mason later in the game afterwards, he had a bigass smile on his face.
https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2019111401
Pittsburgh Steelers Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate Mason Rudolph 44 23 221 5.0 1 4 22 4 43 36.3 this keeps getting ignored in the media. I figure, sissy mason was irate at getting sacked, after being hurried, sacked...Garrett was making him miserable and po'd. 4 interceptions, 4 sacks for 43 yards loss, qb rating of 36.3
Why not guess that they wanted to bait Garrett to get him out of the game? Why the hell, after Garrett tackled him by pulling him down, instead of landing on him - and getting flagged... did blewdolph go apecrap enraged?
I say, because he was P*(&(*&^ frustrated, and they wanted Garrett out of the game. Try to rip Garrett's helmet off, calling him racist term, kick him in the groin, then for good measure, try to go after Garrett's face while he was being held. That make any sense either?
How can you try to rip off a defender's helmet, kick him in the groin - and then be enraged at the guy who tackled you again? well, Garrett did pull HIS helmet off in return...
but the clincher was, after getting bonked with his own helmet, he immediately turned for show to the ref. Sadly, Garrett took the bait.
and couldn't play vs the squealers in their game two weeks later. AND, watching the close up of mason later in the game afterwards, he had a bigass smile on his face.
https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2019111401
Pittsburgh Steelers Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate Mason Rudolph 44 23 221 5.0 1 4 22 4 43 36.3 They wanted Garrett out of the game? With only 8 seconds left? Kinda late for that.
Rudolph behaved like a sissy. In the process of making the tackle Garrett did nothing wrong. Spinning Rudolph to the ground after the sissy had released the ball got Rudolphs panties knotted up. Most likely Myles had no way of knowing he got rid of the ball.
As he lay on the ground a pissed off Rudolph proceeded then to try and pry Myle's helmet off with no success, clearly seen in the video. An enraged Myles returned the favor by successfully ripping Rudolph's helmet off. Myles tore his helmet off because Rudolf tried to take his off first...not because he said the N word.
Myles didn't start clubbing him until after Rudolf charged at him. He didn't club him because he said the N word. Not one player heard Rudolf utter the N word.
Myles is a categorical liar.
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this keeps getting ignored in the media. I figure, sissy mason was irate at getting sacked, after being hurried, sacked...Garrett was making him miserable and po'd. 4 interceptions, 4 sacks for 43 yards loss, qb rating of 36.3
Why not guess that they wanted to bait Garrett to get him out of the game? Why the hell, after Garrett tackled him by pulling him down, instead of landing on him - and getting flagged... did blewdolph go apecrap enraged?
I say, because he was P*(&(*&^ frustrated, and they wanted Garrett out of the game. Try to rip Garrett's helmet off, calling him racist term, kick him in the groin, then for good measure, try to go after Garrett's face while he was being held. That make any sense either?
How can you try to rip off a defender's helmet, kick him in the groin - and then be enraged at the guy who tackled you again? well, Garrett did pull HIS helmet off in return...
but the clincher was, after getting bonked with his own helmet, he immediately turned for show to the ref. Sadly, Garrett took the bait.
and couldn't play vs the squealers in their game two weeks later. AND, watching the close up of mason later in the game afterwards, he had a bigass smile on his face.
https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore.html?gid=2019111401
Pittsburgh Steelers Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate Mason Rudolph 44 23 221 5.0 1 4 22 4 43 36.3 They wanted Garrett out of the game? With only 8 seconds left? Kinda late for that.
Rudolph behaved like a sissy. In the process of making the tackle Garrett did nothing wrong. Spinning Rudolph to the ground after the sissy had released the ball got Rudolphs panties knotted up. Most likely Myles had no way of knowing he got rid of the ball.
As he lay on the ground a pissed off Rudolph proceeded then to try and pry Myle's helmet off with no success, clearly seen in the video. An enraged Myles returned the favor by successfully ripping Rudolph's helmet off. Myles tore his helmet off because Rudolf tried to take his off first...not because he said the N word.
Myles didn't start clubbing him until after Rudolf charged at him. He didn't club him because he said the N word. Not one player heard Rudolf utter the N word.
Myles is a categorical liar.
They wanted Garrett out of the game? With only 8 seconds left? Kinda late for that.
Rudolph behaved like a sissy. In the process of making the tackle Garrett did nothing wrong. Spinning Rudolph to the ground after the sissy had released the ball got Rudolphs panties knotted up. Most likely Myles had no way of knowing he got rid of the ball.
As he lay on the ground a pissed off Rudolph proceeded then to try and pry Myle's helmet off with no success, clearly seen in the video. An enraged Myles returned the favor by successfully ripping Rudolph's helmet off. Myles tore his helmet off because Rudolf tried to take his off first...not because he said the N word.
Myles didn't start clubbing him until after Rudolf charged at him. He didn't club him because he said the N word. Not one player heard Rudolf utter the N word.
Myles is a categorical liar.
You don't have a fucking clue. So you think that while Rudolph was trying to rip Garrett's helmet off, and then kicking him in the groin, that he was as silent as a lamb? No. If you think that, you are stupid. And, making an excuse for potentially racist behavior. (which may be your ultimate motive)
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Although I don't believe Rudolf said anything racist, it good to know your homerism stops where this "racism" bullshit begins.
That makes two of us.
Nothing can be proven either way. Rudolph tried to pull Garret's helmet off, and kneed Garrett in the groin at the same time. It is beyond fantasy to assume that he didn't' say something. What he said, no on knows except he and Garrett. I just know that Garrett's reaction to all three circumstances was volatile.
Nothing can be proven either way. Rudolph tried to pull Garret's helmet off, and kneed Garrett in the groin at the same time. It is beyond fantasy to assume that he didn't' say something. What he said, no on knows except he and Garrett. I just know that Garrett's reaction to all three circumstances was volatile.
And that's just it. Nothing can be proven either way, yet the consensus here is the belief that Myles is telling the truth. I should at least expect 50/50. I have nothing against homerism, it's only a game, it's fun, and we're Browns fans...except when it comes to crap like this.
As to the incident you described, you can also say that attempting to pull off your helmet while being kicked the groin is sufficient enough for any player to want to go ballistic. No naughty words required.
Don't forget, Myles voluntarily backed off assisted by a couple Steelers after pulling off the helmet in retaliation to Rudolf. It wasn't until Rudolf pursued him that he started swinging it. I believe that if Rudolf had not pursued him, Myles clubbing him would have never happened giving him no reason to play the race card after the severity of his actions sunk in.. .
He would have been dealt only a two game suspension as did Pouncey. Game over. Time to move on. No stupid N word talk.
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Nothing can be proven either way. Rudolph tried to pull Garret's helmet off, and kneed Garrett in the groin at the same time. It is beyond fantasy to assume that he didn't' say something. What he said, no on knows except he and Garrett. I just know that Garrett's reaction to all three circumstances was volatile.
And that's just it. Nothing can be proven either way, yet the consensus here is the belief that Myles is telling the truth. I should at least expect 50/50. I have nothing against homerism, it's only a game, it's fun, and we're Browns fans...except when it comes to crap like this.
As to the incident you described, you can also say that attempting to pull off your helmet while being kicked the groin is sufficient enough for any player to want to go ballistic. No naughty words required.
Don't forget, Myles voluntarily backed off assisted by a couple Steelers after pulling off the helmet in retaliation to Rudolf. It wasn't until Rudolf pursued him that he started swinging it. I believe that if Rudolf had not pursued him, Myles clubbing him would have never happened giving him no reason to play the race card after the severity of his actions sunk in.. .
He would have been dealt only a two game suspension as did Pouncey. Game over. Time to move on. No stupid N word talk.
And that's just it. Nothing can be proven either way, yet the consensus here is the belief that Myles is telling the truth. I should at least expect 50/50. I have nothing against homerism, it's only a game, it's fun, and we're Browns fans...except when it comes to crap like this.
As to the incident you described, you can also say that attempting to pull off your helmet while being kicked the groin is sufficient enough for any player to want to go ballistic. No naughty words required.
Don't forget, Myles voluntarily backed off assisted by a couple Steelers after pulling off the helmet in retaliation to Rudolf. It wasn't until Rudolf pursued him that he started swinging it. I believe that if Rudolf had not pursued him, Myles clubbing him would have never happened giving him no reason to play the race card after the severity of his actions sunk in.. .
He would have been dealt only a two game suspension as did Pouncey. Game over. Time to move on. No stupid N word talk.
See your logic is twisted. Just because if Rudolph had not pursued him still does not mean he did not use the N-word
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@nickers said:
He's not sponge worthy..
FIFY??
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They wanted Garrett out of the game? With only 8 seconds left? Kinda late for that.
Rudolph behaved like a sissy. In the process of making the tackle Garrett did nothing wrong. Spinning Rudolph to the ground after the sissy had released the ball got Rudolphs panties knotted up. Most likely Myles had no way of knowing he got rid of the ball.
As he lay on the ground a pissed off Rudolph proceeded then to try and pry Myle's helmet off with no success, clearly seen in the video. An enraged Myles returned the favor by successfully ripping Rudolph's helmet off. Myles tore his helmet off because Rudolf tried to take his off first...not because he said the N word.
Myles didn't start clubbing him until after Rudolf charged at him. He didn't club him because he said the N word. Not one player heard Rudolf utter the N word.
Myles is a categorical liar.
You don't have a fucking clue. So you think that while Rudolph was trying to rip Garrett's helmet off, and then kicking him in the groin, that he was as silent as a lamb? No. If you think that, you are stupid. And, making an excuse for potentially racist behavior. (which may be your ultimate motive)
You don't have a fucking clue. So you think that while Rudolph was trying to rip Garrett's helmet off, and then kicking him in the groin, that he was as silent as a lamb? No. If you think that, you are stupid. And, making an excuse for potentially racist behavior. (which may be your ultimate motive)
Of course it is. Are we really debating this Gip?
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You don't have a fucking clue. So you think that while Rudolph was trying to rip Garrett's helmet off, and then kicking him in the groin, that he was as silent as a lamb? No. If you think that, you are stupid. And, making an excuse for potentially racist behavior. (which may be your ultimate motive)
Of course it is. Are we really debating this Gip?
Of course it is. Are we really debating this Gip?
He seems to be
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And that's just it. Nothing can be proven either way, yet the consensus here is the belief that Myles is telling the truth. I should at least expect 50/50. I have nothing against homerism, it's only a game, it's fun, and we're Browns fans...except when it comes to crap like this.
As to the incident you described, you can also say that attempting to pull off your helmet while being kicked the groin is sufficient enough for any player to want to go ballistic. No naughty words required.
Don't forget, Myles voluntarily backed off assisted by a couple Steelers after pulling off the helmet in retaliation to Rudolf. It wasn't until Rudolf pursued him that he started swinging it. I believe that if Rudolf had not pursued him, Myles clubbing him would have never happened giving him no reason to play the race card after the severity of his actions sunk in.. .
He would have been dealt only a two game suspension as did Pouncey. Game over. Time to move on. No stupid N word talk.
See your logic is twisted. Just because if Rudolph had not pursued him still does not mean he did not use the N-word
See your logic is twisted. Just because if Rudolph had not pursued him still does not mean he did not use the N-word
Lol...true it doesn't mean he didn't use the word, but that does not constitute my logic as being twisted in the least.
There is one fact about this incident that cannot be refuted. No player on either team heard Rudolf saying anything racist. The behavior of both players as described was only meant to help to support that fact, not prove it.
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@gorka said:
It's highly likely he did say something, but highly unlikely it was the N word.
What?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Ex-Browns GM John Dorsey says Myles Garrett told him right away Mason Rudolph used racial slur
On Monday, Dorsey told the Beacon Journal in text messages it’s “correct” and “it’s the truth” that Garrett informed him of the racial slur accusation right away.
Dorsey’s assertion is consistent with a prepared statement he released Nov. 21 in which he said Garrett “was open and honest with us about the incident from the start.”
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@dutch-oven said:
What I find funny is that what did I find on my profile today? Gorka has recently been snooping on it... There he is, recent profile views...
What a weirdo stalker. Apparently stalking me is what he considers "having a life".
I wouldn't take that seriously. I mant times visit profiles by mistake when trying to watch the last reply of a thread in my phone.
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OK- I've had it- any more off topic name calling, and guys are going to start getting penalty points and kiddie timeouts. Grow the hell up, I want to see some semi intelligent discussion- and this thread has devolved into some schoolyard taunting for the most part. I don't give a rat's ass who started it.
That means you Dutch and Gorka. Take that crap over to the poli board.
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See your logic is twisted. Just because if Rudolph had not pursued him still does not mean he did not use the N-word
Lol...true it doesn't mean he didn't use the word, but that does not constitute my logic as being twisted in the least.
There is one fact about this incident that cannot be refuted. No player on either team heard Rudolf saying anything racist. The behavior of both players as described was only meant to help to support that fact, not prove it.
Lol...true it doesn't mean he didn't use the word, but that does not constitute my logic as being twisted in the least.
There is one fact about this incident that cannot be refuted. No player on either team heard Rudolf saying anything racist. The behavior of both players as described was only meant to help to support that fact, not prove it.
There is the twisted logic. Actually quite the opposite is true actions seem more to support the fact that Rudolph said something.
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“Everything that happens to you is for a reason,” Garrett said. “If you take the lesson and make the best out of it, everything a blessing in disguise."
“When I get back onto the field, you’ll see,” Garrett cautioned.
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