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I don't see us having a realistic shot at a top 4 Edge (Young, Chaisson, Epenesa, Gross-Matos) and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft. UNC's Stowbridge ought to be around Day 3. He's a grossly undersized DT (6'4, 267!!!) who could... and should... be returned to Edge duty.
What looks to be possible is to land an OT and then add a DT who can penetrate. I'm hoping for a shot at Blacklock, but your Ag is more likely there when our R2 pick rolls around. Problem then becomes where to land a decent LB and S... but there seem to be a fair number of the latter who can help us.
LBs? I'm not seeing much beyond R2 with the possible exception of Willie Gay, Jr. who just may blow up the Combine.
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Maybe it's just me but another name I'm rather underwhelmed by is Epenesa.
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Maybe it's just me but another name I'm rather underwhelmed by is Epenesa.
Agree... he's not "elite"... lacks burst and lateral agility, but is a strong 6'6, 280 pound DE with tons of punch. Long term I think he moves inside.
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Agree... he's not "elite"... lacks burst and lateral agility, but is a strong 6'6, 280 pound DE with tons of punch. Long term I think he moves inside.
He just can't threaten the edge and moving inside doesn't necessarily make it a good solution by any stretch. Not a hell of a lot of 280lb defensive interiors in the NFL that were worth a top 15 pick. And to just say "put on 20lbs" isn't always a solution for improved play either. See; Winn, Billy.
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I don't see us having a realistic shot at a top 4 Edge (Young, Chaisson, Epenesa, Gross-Matos) and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft. UNC's Stowbridge ought to be around Day 3. He's a grossly undersized DT (6'4, 267!!!) who could... and should... be returned to Edge duty.
What looks to be possible is to land an OT and then add a DT who can penetrate. I'm hoping for a shot at Blacklock, but your Ag is more likely there when our R2 pick rolls around. Problem then becomes where to land a decent LB and S... but there seem to be a fair number of the latter who can help us.
LBs? I'm not seeing much beyond R2 with the possible exception of Willie Gay, Jr. who just may blow up the Combine.
What looks to be possible is to land an OT and then add a DT who can penetrate. I'm hoping for a shot at Blacklock, but your Ag is more likely there when our R2 pick rolls around. Problem then becomes where to land a decent LB and S... but there seem to be a fair number of the latter who can help us.
And someone's early mock just moved Madubuike to late 1st rd. I'm still thinking he may still be there by our rd 2. And all 6 pickers for CBS NFL Mock have Delpit going from #14 to #31 in the 1st. Too bad. I really like him.
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I don't see us having a realistic shot at a top 4 Edge (Young, Chaisson, Epenesa, Gross-Matos) and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft. UNC's Stowbridge ought to be around Day 3. He's a grossly undersized DT (6'4, 267!!!) who could... and should... be returned to Edge duty.
What looks to be possible is to land an OT and then add a DT who can penetrate. I'm hoping for a shot at Blacklock, but your Ag is more likely there when our R2 pick rolls around. Problem then becomes where to land a decent LB and S... but there seem to be a fair number of the latter who can help us.
LBs? I'm not seeing much beyond R2 with the possible exception of Willie Gay, Jr. who just may blow up the Combine.
and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft. UNC's Stowbridge ought to be around Day 3.
Stowbridge took some snaps at DE at Heels. But like D. Avery, he tends not* to get off blocks to well against the better tackles..but also, The ACC did not have many good tackles either..
O-Line..i've been spending some time on the Jets board ?.. They, like us need O-line. Jets sit at pick #11 with 3 3rd round picks..Plans are, giving up 2 3rds(68&79) to get in front of us to have a LT choice(Thomas).. to Carolina #7(did you happen to notice the Panthers scout that never left Kinlaw all Senior bowl practices?) and ahead of #8 Zona in RT need.. should i make them a something green counter offer
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I don't see us having a realistic shot at a top 4 Edge (Young, Chaisson, Epenesa, Gross-Matos) and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft.
So, you think that all 7 of those guys will be gone by the time we draft at 10?
And since we figure that Burrows at least will be taken in Top Ten......that leaves just one other guy besides these 8 that would be drafted before we have a chance. So, who is that one other guy?
(Or, did you exaggerate the chances of all those 7 being gone?)
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and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft. UNC's Stowbridge ought to be around Day 3.
Stowbridge took some snaps at DE at Heels. But like D. Avery, he tends not* to get off blocks to well against the better tackles..but also, The ACC did not have many good tackles either..
O-Line..i've been spending some time on the Jets board ?.. They, like us need O-line. Jets sit at pick #11 with 3 3rd round picks..Plans are, giving up 2 3rds(68&79) to get in front of us to have a LT choice(Thomas).. to Carolina #7(did you happen to notice the Panthers scout that never left Kinlaw all Senior bowl practices?) and ahead of #8 Zona in RT need.. should i make them a something green counter offer
O-Line..i've been spending some time on the Jets board ?.. They, like us need O-line. Jets sit at pick #11 with 3 3rd round picks..Plans are, giving up 2 3rds(68&79) to get in front of us to have a LT choice(Thomas).. to Carolina #7(did you happen to notice the Panthers scout that never left Kinlaw all Senior bowl practices?) and ahead of #8 Zona in RT need.. should i make them a something green counter offer
Two 3rds to move up four spots in the 1st round? Not feeling CAR going for that deal. A 2020 1st, 2nd and 3rd? Then maybe "Giddy-up"...
But we can stop CAR in its tracks... put out word to CAR that if our OTs are both gone by #10, then we are going to take Kinlaw...
... and I'd actually be OK with doing that. Kinlaw is arguably in a BPA grouping at #10.
It's going to be a wild 1st round after Cinci calls Burrows' name. There are at least 15 players worthy of being top ten picks.
Read an analysis yesterday about WSH trading away the #2 overall vs. taking Young. A deal with MIA so they can take their QB (Tua or Herbert) at #2 could net WSH all three of the Fins 1st round picks. If MIA makes a move like that, then three QBs likely go before our #10 is on the clock.
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I don't see us having a realistic shot at a top 4 Edge (Young, Chaisson, Epenesa, Gross-Matos) and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft.
So, you think that all 7 of those guys will be gone by the time we draft at 10?
And since we figure that Burrows at least will be taken in Top Ten......that leaves just one other guy besides these 8 that would be drafted before we have a chance. So, who is that one other guy?
(Or, did you exaggerate the chances of all those 7 being gone?)
I don't see us having a realistic shot at a top 4 Edge (Young, Chaisson, Epenesa, Gross-Matos) and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft.
So, you think that all 7 of those guys will be gone by the time we draft at 10?
And since we figure that Burrows at least will be taken in Top Ten......that leaves just one other guy besides these 8 that would be drafted before we have a chance. So, who is that one other guy?
(Or, did you exaggerate the chances of all those 7 being gone?)
Not sure why I was able to see your post, but since I did...
My comment was on our chances of drafting one of each of those groupings... thus my use of "and".
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't see us having a realistic shot at a top 4 Edge (Young, Chaisson, Epenesa, Gross-Matos) and a top three OT (Wills, Thomas, Jones... still not there with Becton) in this draft.
So, you think that all 7 of those guys will be gone by the time we draft at 10?
And since we figure that Burrows at least will be taken in Top Ten......that leaves just one other guy besides these 8 that would be drafted before we have a chance. So, who is that one other guy?
(Or, did you exaggerate the chances of all those 7 being gone?)
Not sure why I was able to see your post, but since I did...
My comment was on our chances of drafting one of each of those groupings... thus my use of "and".
Not sure why I was able to see your post, but since I did...
My comment was on our chances of drafting one of each of those groupings... thus my use of "and".
Ah! OK. I would not think we could get a top 3-4 rated OT or DE/LB with the 9th/10th pick in round 2...which would be like #41-42. High demand positions. We might get the #3 OG with that pick.
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