Quinn's 51 yard pass - video clip
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Masters said:
If you're going to knock Quinn and say he isn't one of them that can hit that pass, you might as well say the same thing of DA.Actually not. DA doesn't have trouble with that pass.
And FYI, being able to physically propel a ball over by the sideline 20 yds down field is not the same thing as hitting a 20 yd out before the DB picks it off for 6 the other way.
I'm sensing you may not ready to sit at the big boy table when it comes to this kind of stuff.
Actually not. DA doesn't have trouble with that pass.
And FYI, being able to physically propel a ball over by the sideline 20 yds down field is not the same thing as hitting a 20 yd out before the DB picks it off for 6 the other way.
I'm sensing you may not ready to sit at the big boy table when it comes to this kind of stuff.
The whole completing it part he does have trouble with (unless his WR goes all circus).
Oh, I am well aware. Just as I have seen the pick 6 the other way, of course it is DA throwing the ball.
LFMAO....Says the guy who is still in the high chair.
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Stop saying since High School. DA and Kellen Clemens were 2 of the top 3 QBs rated in the nation coming out of High School. Say since college if you want to say something like that. Da did throw allot of pick sixes in college.
Does it bother anybody else that neither QB seems to be any better than the other? BQ did not play very good in last years preseason games and played one good game last year against one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. DA has played about 12 to 14 good games out of 27. When you look at them at the same time in their careers they are almost identical statistically and that includes in yards per pass completion.
That is the stat that people can use against lum to say that he can make the throws. 11.9 yards per completion for BQ and 12 yards per completion for DA.
But since most of you think that DA sucks, does it not bother you that people are talking about what happens if the competition is a tie? People talk about that they want BQ to earn the starter position but it seems that the only QB that would have to earn the job is DA. And most of you seem happy with that. If you think that DA sucks and that BQ can not seem to actually earn the position over him what you should be calling for is a new QB. If it is true that BQ starts if it is a even competition then you should be really upset that the Browns yet again turned down a first round pick for a QB on the roster. Because the truth is that the Browns franchise QB is not in camp this year, unless it is ratliff.
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@shepwrite said:
Oh, please, Lump. The only thing you know about "football" is the distance between Anderson's balls and asshole.No need to go down that path now shep. We all know you've got the football IQ of a cheerleading squad.
You don't know how to play the game unless you've played the game.
Hey here's some heavy hitting reading that's more suited for you. Courtesy of AFC North blogger James Walker: "Years of weightlifting have made Quinn one of the most "ripped'' quarterbacks in the league. His forearms are masses of swelling muscles, and his upper body looks more like a linebacker's."
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Stop saying since High School. DA and Kellen Clemens were 2 of the top 3 QBs rated in the nation coming out of High School. Say since college if you want to say something like that. Da did throw allot of pick sixes in college.
Does it bother anybody else that neither QB seems to be any better than the other? BQ did not play very good in last years preseason games and played one good game last year against one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. DA has played about 12 to 14 good games out of 27. When you look at them at the same time in their careers they are almost identical statistically and that includes in yards per pass completion.
That is the stat that people can use against lum to say that he can make the throws. 11.9 yards per completion for BQ and 12 yards per completion for DA.
But since most of you think that DA sucks, does it not bother you that people are talking about what happens if the competition is a tie? People talk about that they want BQ to earn the starter position but it seems that the only QB that would have to earn the job is DA. And most of you seem happy with that. If you think that DA sucks and that BQ can not seem to actually earn the position over him what you should be calling for is a new QB. If it is true that BQ starts if it is a even competition then you should be really upset that the Browns yet again turned down a first round pick for a QB on the roster. Because the truth is that the Browns franchise QB is not in camp this year, unless it is ratliff.
Stop saying since High School. DA and Kellen Clemens were 2 of the top 3 QBs rated in the nation coming out of High School. Say since college if you want to say something like that. Da did throw allot of pick sixes in college.
Does it bother anybody else that neither QB seems to be any better than the other? BQ did not play very good in last years preseason games and played one good game last year against one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. DA has played about 12 to 14 good games out of 27. When you look at them at the same time in their careers they are almost identical statistically and that includes in yards per pass completion.
That is the stat that people can use against lum to say that he can make the throws. 11.9 yards per completion for BQ and 12 yards per completion for DA.
But since most of you think that DA sucks, does it not bother you that people are talking about what happens if the competition is a tie? People talk about that they want BQ to earn the starter position but it seems that the only QB that would have to earn the job is DA. And most of you seem happy with that. If you think that DA sucks and that BQ can not seem to actually earn the position over him what you should be calling for is a new QB. If it is true that BQ starts if it is a even competition then you should be really upset that the Browns yet again turned down a first round pick for a QB on the roster. Because the truth is that the Browns franchise QB is not in camp this year, unless it is ratliff.
Acutally, you can locate his HS scouting report, along with his college stats. He has had the same completion % issues, short pass issues, and TD/INT issue since HS.
Here is what I know, DA has shown no growth as a QB since HS. Same issues in college and after 4 years in the NFL. He is who he is.
What do I know about Quinn? Nothing other than him carrying a ND team, and having a good showing in his one healthy NFL start. And not just statistically, but the way he led his offense (suddenly no blown time outs, stupid false starts, or delay of game penalties).
Delaying on giving Quinn a legit look as a starter continues to set the franchise back, as DA is not the answer and CLE has to find one. They can't make a decision to draft a QB next year until they figure out Quinn.
You can change Quinn's name to any 1st round QB who has been sitting on the bench for 2 years, and I would say the same thing.
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Quinn doesn't have arm strength problems. Period. This is nuts. It may or may not be top shelf, but it's plenty. His success will depend on accuracy and his drive to be better (like the Peter King info on his study of Tom Brady's footwork).
If Quinn fails, it will not be because he couldn't get it there.
If Quinn fails, it will not be because he couldn't get it there.
That's an excellent point.
If Quinn fails, it'll be because he stalls a potential game winning drive at the 35 and throws it away 3rd and 1 when there's 27 seconds on the clock. Then watches Anderson take a knee to end the game.
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If Quinn fails, it will not be because he couldn't get it there.
That's an excellent point.
If Quinn fails, it'll be because he stalls a potential game winning drive at the 35 and throws it away 3rd and 1 when there's 27 seconds on the clock. Then watches Anderson take a knee to end the game.
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If Quinn fails, it will not be because he couldn't get it there.
That's an excellent point.
If Quinn fails, it'll be because he stalls a potential game winning drive at the 35 and throws it away 3rd and 1 when there's 27 seconds on the clock. Then watches Anderson take a knee to end the game.
That's an excellent point.
If Quinn fails, it'll be because he stalls a potential game winning drive at the 35 and throws it away 3rd and 1 when there's 27 seconds on the clock. Then watches Anderson take a knee to end the game.
Throwing it away for a chance at a game tying field goal (within Phil's range) is right on the money for Mangini/Bellicheckian thinking. Conservative and smart. Beats a sack which would have taken the field goal attempt to the mid 50-yard range.
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Stop saying since High School. DA and Kellen Clemens were 2 of the top 3 QBs rated in the nation coming out of High School. Say since college if you want to say something like that. Da did throw allot of pick sixes in college.
Does it bother anybody else that neither QB seems to be any better than the other? BQ did not play very good in last years preseason games and played one good game last year against one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. DA has played about 12 to 14 good games out of 27. When you look at them at the same time in their careers they are almost identical statistically and that includes in yards per pass completion.
That is the stat that people can use against lum to say that he can make the throws. 11.9 yards per completion for BQ and 12 yards per completion for DA.
But since most of you think that DA sucks, does it not bother you that people are talking about what happens if the competition is a tie? People talk about that they want BQ to earn the starter position but it seems that the only QB that would have to earn the job is DA. And most of you seem happy with that. If you think that DA sucks and that BQ can not seem to actually earn the position over him what you should be calling for is a new QB. If it is true that BQ starts if it is a even competition then you should be really upset that the Browns yet again turned down a first round pick for a QB on the roster. Because the truth is that the Browns franchise QB is not in camp this year, unless it is ratliff.
Acutally, you can locate his HS scouting report, along with his college stats. He has had the same completion % issues, short pass issues, and TD/INT issue since HS.
Here is what I know, DA has shown no growth as a QB since HS. Same issues in college and after 4 years in the NFL. He is who he is.
What do I know about Quinn? Nothing other than him carrying a ND team, and having a good showing in his one healthy NFL start. And not just statistically, but the way he led his offense (suddenly no blown time outs, stupid false starts, or delay of game penalties).
Delaying on giving Quinn a legit look as a starter continues to set the franchise back, as DA is not the answer and CLE has to find one. They can't make a decision to draft a QB next year until they figure out Quinn.
You can change Quinn's name to any 1st round QB who has been sitting on the bench for 2 years, and I would say the same thing.
Masters said:
Acutally, you can locate his HS scouting report, along with his college stats. He has had the same completion % issues, short pass issues, and TD/INT issue since HS.does that mean you're going to produce this HS scouting report?
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That's an excellent point.
If Quinn fails, it'll be because he stalls a potential game winning drive at the 35 and throws it away 3rd and 1 when there's 27 seconds on the clock. Then watches Anderson take a knee to end the game.
Throwing it away for a chance at a game tying field goal (within Phil's range) is right on the money for Mangini/Bellicheckian thinking. Conservative and smart. Beats a sack which would have taken the field goal attempt to the mid 50-yard range.
Throwing it away for a chance at a game tying field goal (within Phil's range) is right on the money for Mangini/Bellicheckian thinking. Conservative and smart. Beats a sack which would have taken the field goal attempt to the mid 50-yard range.
bullshit, you don't throw away downs to take a 49 yarder.
And if you're trying to kick a FG to tie the game, you don't want to leave the other team 27 seconds either.
It was neither conservative nor smart, and as it turns out was the last chance to keep from losing the game.
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Masters said:
Acutally, you can locate his HS scouting report, along with his college stats. He has had the same completion % issues, short pass issues, and TD/INT issue since HS.does that mean you're going to produce this HS scouting report?
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Throwing it away for a chance at a game tying field goal (within Phil's range) is right on the money for Mangini/Bellicheckian thinking. Conservative and smart. Beats a sack which would have taken the field goal attempt to the mid 50-yard range.
bullshit, you don't throw away downs to take a 49 yarder.
And if you're trying to kick a FG to tie the game, you don't want to leave the other team 27 seconds either.
It was neither conservative nor smart, and as it turns out was the last chance to keep from losing the game.
bullshit, you don't throw away downs to take a 49 yarder.
And if you're trying to kick a FG to tie the game, you don't want to leave the other team 27 seconds either.
It was neither conservative nor smart, and as it turns out was the last chance to keep from losing the game.
You'll have to forgive him, he should have went DA and threw a pick 6 instead.
If you are facing a sack or throw it away for the chance at a FG, you take the FG.
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bullshit, you don't throw away downs to take a 49 yarder.
And if you're trying to kick a FG to tie the game, you don't want to leave the other team 27 seconds either.
It was neither conservative nor smart, and as it turns out was the last chance to keep from losing the game.
You'll have to forgive him, he should have went DA and threw a pick 6 instead.
If you are facing a sack or throw it away for the chance at a FG, you take the FG.
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If Quinn fails, it will not be because he couldn't get it there.
That's an excellent point.
If Quinn fails, it'll be because he stalls a potential game winning drive at the 35 and throws it away 3rd and 1 when there's 27 seconds on the clock. Then watches Anderson take a knee to end the game.
That's an excellent point.
If Quinn fails, it'll be because he stalls a potential game winning drive at the 35 and throws it away 3rd and 1 when there's 27 seconds on the clock. Then watches Anderson take a knee to end the game.
How are you saying anything after yesterday? Anderson was terrible. And the only reason he got a BS rushing touchdown was because Ratliff took the team down the field for him. Quinn was better, even if he wasn't great.
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Masters said:
It's called google and Rivals.com. Use themI happen to know Anderson threw 85 TDs and had 17 picks in HS.
Scouting reports called him a top 3 QB in the country.
Maybe I missed these other reports you speak of.
Here's a tidbit for you to ponder while you find what you say you have access to:
Selected the top quarterback in the state and second in the nation by Super Prep Magazine at the conclusion of his senior year...Super Prep All-American pick and rated the magazine's 10th best player in the nation...Also earned All-American honors from Prep Star and Student Sports...USA Today Player of the Year for Oregon...Threw for 8,177 yards and 85 touchdowns, and completed 61 percent of his passes during his three-year varsity career
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bullshit, you don't throw away downs to take a 49 yarder.
And if you're trying to kick a FG to tie the game, you don't want to leave the other team 27 seconds either.
It was neither conservative nor smart, and as it turns out was the last chance to keep from losing the game.
You'll have to forgive him, he should have went DA and threw a pick 6 instead.
If you are facing a sack or throw it away for the chance at a FG, you take the FG.
Masters said:
If you are facing a sack or throw it away for the chance at a FG, you take the FG.Apparently if you are Quinnie, you do just that...
and then lose to the Broncos
and then lose to Anderson and the Brown team
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Masters said:
It's called google and Rivals.com. Use themI happen to know Anderson threw 85 TDs and had 17 picks in HS.
Scouting reports called him a top 3 QB in the country.
Maybe I missed these other reports you speak of.
Here's a tidbit for you to ponder while you find what you say you have access to:
Selected the top quarterback in the state and second in the nation by Super Prep Magazine at the conclusion of his senior year...Super Prep All-American pick and rated the magazine's 10th best player in the nation...Also earned All-American honors from Prep Star and Student Sports...USA Today Player of the Year for Oregon...Threw for 8,177 yards and 85 touchdowns, and completed 61 percent of his passes during his three-year varsity career
I happen to know Anderson threw 85 TDs and had 17 picks in HS.
Scouting reports called him a top 3 QB in the country.
Maybe I missed these other reports you speak of.
Here's a tidbit for you to ponder while you find what you say you have access to:
Selected the top quarterback in the state and second in the nation by Super Prep Magazine at the conclusion of his senior year...Super Prep All-American pick and rated the magazine's 10th best player in the nation...Also earned All-American honors from Prep Star and Student Sports...USA Today Player of the Year for Oregon...Threw for 8,177 yards and 85 touchdowns, and completed 61 percent of his passes during his three-year varsity career
On physical talent. Now read the parts where they say what he'd have to work on at the next level. Then read the college scouting report when he was coming to the NFL, then read a scouting report today. All the same issues.
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Masters said:
If you are facing a sack or throw it away for the chance at a FG, you take the FG.Apparently if you are Quinnie, you do just that...
and then lose to the Broncos
and then lose to Anderson and the Brown team
Apparently if you are Quinnie, you do just that...
and then lose to the Broncos
and then lose to Anderson and the Brown team
Except that ball went through Winslows hands..... oh how you leave that out.
You mean a scrimage team that was better lead by the 3rd string QB.
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At 1:30-1:40 there are 3-4 throws in a row of him throwing outs, 50 yds off his back foot and 25-30 yds across the middle in between 2 defenders. There are lots of videos to prove he has the arm, but this will do fine.
As I said earlier, the last two years all people have "questioned" was the "deep" throw. The "bomb". Those were the terms used over and over and over. Now that we've seen it a few times, now all of a sudden it's the "25yd out on a rope".
Amazing how people change their tune so quickly....
And for those saying " that's college".....
Here's another 20 yard out on a rope as a Brown. He drops to the 30 and hits the WR at the 10. Perfect placement and on "a rope".
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