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    VamboV Vambo wrote on last edited by
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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28723771/browns-cut-four-players-free-more-13-million-salary-cap

    BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns terminated the contracts of cornerback T.J. Carrie, tight end Demetrius Harris, guard Eric Kush and linebacker Adarius Taylor on Monday.

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      These are easy moves, not losing much talent. The real, significant moves will come with Hunt and OBJ. Yes, tons of talent but I believe it will be addition by subtractions.

      If they want real hope, the soul of the team must be altered in a real way. But, I'm not sure it can be if Mr. Jimmy still owns it. 

      Hunt is talented, but overly dumb. Who knows when is next event is coming. OBJ just not happy, and more distractions are on their way. Get rid of both and create more cap space, then in the draft go:

      LT 1.

      DT 2.

      OG 3.

      RB 4. (or later, just need depth)

      S, LB.

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        These are easy moves, not losing much talent. The real, significant moves will come with Hunt and OBJ. Yes, tons of talent but I believe it will be addition by subtractions.

        If they want real hope, the soul of the team must be altered in a real way. But, I'm not sure it can be if Mr. Jimmy still owns it. 

        Hunt is talented, but overly dumb. Who knows when is next event is coming. OBJ just not happy, and more distractions are on their way. Get rid of both and create more cap space, then in the draft go:

        LT 1.

        DT 2.

        OG 3.

        RB 4. (or later, just need depth)

        S, LB.

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        @icecube said:

        These are easy moves, not losing much talent. The real, significant moves will come with Hunt and OBJ. Yes, tons of talent but I believe it will be addition by subtractions.

        If they want real hope, the soul of the team must be altered in a real way. But, I'm not sure it can be if Mr. Jimmy still owns it. 

        Hunt is talented, but overly dumb. Who knows when is next event is coming. OBJ just not happy, and more distractions are on their way. Get rid of both and create more cap space, then in the draft go:

        LT 1.

        DT 2.

        OG 3.

        RB 4. (or later, just need depth)

        S, LB.

        I don't think we release Hurt or OBJ.  We will tag Hunt.  If he gets a offer we don't like, we will take the pick.  OBJ is at most trade bait.  We will listen to offers, but I don't think Stefanski wants him to go.

        Vernon is the interesting question.   We might release him.  $15.5 is a lot for a guy who hasn't played much the last 2-3 years.  That doesn't mean he won't be able to this year.   That is the tough decision of the off-season.  We don't have anybody behind him unless you are related the Chad Thomas.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          These are easy moves, not losing much talent. The real, significant moves will come with Hunt and OBJ. Yes, tons of talent but I believe it will be addition by subtractions.

          If they want real hope, the soul of the team must be altered in a real way. But, I'm not sure it can be if Mr. Jimmy still owns it. 

          Hunt is talented, but overly dumb. Who knows when is next event is coming. OBJ just not happy, and more distractions are on their way. Get rid of both and create more cap space, then in the draft go:

          LT 1.

          DT 2.

          OG 3.

          RB 4. (or later, just need depth)

          S, LB.

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          @icecube said:

          ...then in the draft go:

          LT 1.

          DT 2.

          OG 3.

          RB 4. (or later, just need depth)

          S, LB.

          Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft.

          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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            @icecube said:

            ...then in the draft go:

            LT 1.

            DT 2.

            OG 3.

            RB 4. (or later, just need depth)

            S, LB.

            Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft.

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            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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            @tour2ma said:

            Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft.

            I think it more a poster ranking needs as they see them.  No doubt you have to see who is available.  If Simmons is there when we pick, it would be hard to pass on him to take the 3rd or 4th best LT.  That is why scouting and the FO have to have 2nd tier and 3rd tier guys laid out on the horizontal draft board.

            One also has to consider what happened in free agency.  That is where you address needs.  At least to me, the 2nd round pick is where you might lean on your horizontal board a bit more, but even then, if you have to drop more than 2-3-4 slots on the vertical board, you are probably making a mistake.

            The only real exceptions are early if you need a QB and late if you need a kicker of some sort or a long snapper.

            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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              @icecube said:

              ...then in the draft go:

              LT 1.

              DT 2.

              OG 3.

              RB 4. (or later, just need depth)

              S, LB.

              Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft.

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              @tour2ma said:

              Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft.

              It was assumptive tha BPA would be factored in. Jebus Christmas on a popsicle stick. Some live to whine. 

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                @icecube said:

                ...then in the draft go:

                LT 1.

                DT 2.

                OG 3.

                RB 4. (or later, just need depth)

                S, LB.

                Scripting like this without knowing knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                @tour2ma said:

                Scripting like this without knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft.

                @icecube said:

                It was assumptive tha BPA would be factored in. Jebus Christmas on a popsicle stick. Some live to whine. 

                Shall we take a poll as to which of the above sound like whining?

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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Scripting like this without knowing who is going to be available when those picks are on the clock is a recipe for a disastrous draft.

                  @icecube said:

                  It was assumptive tha BPA would be factored in. Jebus Christmas on a popsicle stick. Some live to whine. 

                  Shall we take a poll as to which of the above sound like whining?

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                  I Icecube wrote on last edited by
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Shall we take a poll as to which of the above sound like whining?

                  Oh NO! Not a poll!!

                  Image result for gifs lol

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    I accept your surrender.

                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                      I accept your surrender.

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                      @tour2ma said:

                      I accept your surrender.

                      Image result for gifs lol

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                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                        This is from a MKC source... carry a big stick... https://cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/lb-joe-schobert-will-hit-the-free-agent-market-and-will-not-be-back-with-the-browns-source-says.html    

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                          Belongs here too- Kirksey released. Not much of a surprise....  

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                            darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                            Anyone heard anymore news on whether Vernon is sticking around or we cutting him ?

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                              Who knows? I just hope that this isn't one of those typical situations where the new GM wants to shit can everybody that the old GM brought in. I don't think Kush was Ryan Tucker but I thought he was at least a useful piece of the puzzle.

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                                John Dorkey knew he made a mistake signing Kush, so Wyat Teller was signed to replace him.

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                                  John Dorkey knew he made a mistake signing Kush, so Wyat Teller was signed to replace him.

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                                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                  @7moses7 said:

                                  John Dorkey knew he made a mistake signing Kush, so he traded for Wyat Teller was signed to replace him.

                                  FIFY...

                                  On August 29, 2019, Teller and a 2021 seventh-round pick was traded to the Cleveland Browns for 2020 fifth and sixth-round picks

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                                    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                    Morgan Burnett who? safety released, along with Hunt getting tagged....  

                                    Kirksey signs with Green Bay, two years $16 million. 

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      Hunt was tendered.... along with three others...

                                      Tendered RB Kareem Hunt, TE Pharaoh Brown, RB Dontrell Hilliard and WR KhaDarel Hodge

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                                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                        2nd Fullback added... https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/17/browns-trade-future-draft-pick-for-broncos-fb-andy-janovich/  cost? a 2021 7th rounder

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                                          Morgan Burnett who? safety released, along with Hunt getting tagged....  

                                          Kirksey signs with Green Bay, two years $16 million. 

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                                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          Morgan Burnett who? safety released, along with Hunt getting tagged....  

                                          Kirksey signs with Green Bay, two years $16 million. 

                                          Happy trails to Kirksey 2/$16M to go to the Packers. Not too shabby.

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