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  • @tiamat63 said:

    Will give Peart a good look this weekend.

    Not a lot of UConn tape out there. Here's good test vs. UCF.

    @tour2ma said:

    Not a lot of UConn tape out there. Here's good test vs. UCF.

    Well.... shit.      

    Made me bump Driscoll down a notch. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Not a lot of UConn tape out there. Here's good test vs. UCF.

    Well.... shit.      

    Made me bump Driscoll down a notch. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Well.... shit.  Made me bump Driscoll down a notch. 

    lol... don't be jel...

    I need to find one or two hidden gems per class... 😉

  • Problem is my gems never stay hidden...

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    Super Bowl 2020: NFL Draft prospects who resemble star players that helped Chiefs and 49ers reach Super Bowl

    by Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso Jan 30, 2020 at 10:03 am ET • 11 min read

    Eric Fisher - Comparison: Matt Peart, UConn

    Get to know this name. And no, Peart won't go in the first round like former No. 1 overall pick Fisher did. Heck, it would actually be a surprise if he made his way to the second day of the draft. 

    But at nearly 6-foot-7 and 310 pounds with vines for arms and borderline elite athleticism for the tackle position that allows him to mirror like a veteran, Peart has the on-field ingredients to become Fisher 2.0 at the next level. When Fisher entered the league out of Central Michigan in 2013 and rocketed up boards all the way to the top of the draft, everyone agreed he had franchise tackle athletic traits but needed to beef up and get stronger. That's precisely how I view Peart right now.

    Jimmy Garoppolo - Comparison: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

    As a Washington State quarterback, you probably know what type Gordon is. He's a passer who gets it out quickly, mostly on underneath throws, and thanks to the variety of options at his disposal on every play, is pretty deft getting through his reads. But he doesn't have a huge arm and, from time to time (see: too often) writes checks with his brain that his arm can't cash. He's a quick-decision based quarterback. And does every quick decision you make in life turn out to be a good one? Exactly. The same goes for Gordon.

    Garoppolo has become a better processor during his NFL career, but, he too hailed from a spread offense in college -- Eastern Illinois -- and was a quick-passing point guard before going to the New England Patriots. Don't be offended by this comparison, Jimmy G fans, but Gordon most resembles your guy in this draft class. 

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/super-bowl-2020-nfl-draft-prospects-who-resemble-star-players-that-helped-chiefs-and-49ers-reach-super-bowl/

  • @tour2ma said:

    Not many, gum... DraftScout always seems to have good insight into 40 times and they have Becton as the slowest of their page 1 prospects...

    http://www.draftscout.com/players.php?GenPos=OT&DraftYear=2020&sortorder=TSXPos&order=ASC

    Bigger question is how his 10-yd split, his vert and his standing broad will stack up?

    Big Hoss wants 5.2 ?  

    if your not familiar with Becton in front of a mic? he's a fun kid      

    @gumby73 said:

    Big Hoss wants 5.2 ?  

    In that case he should have run slower... 🙂

    Kid posted a 5.10...

    Wirfs led the way with a 4.85. Wills 5.05.

    Thomas posted a 7.58 3-cone. Wirfs 7.65.

    Wirfs name pops up among the leaders for a lot of the drills.

  • https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2878486-tristan-wirfs-breaks-nfl-combine-offensive-line-records-in-vertical-broad-jumps

    “Per The Athletic's Brandon Thorn, Wirfs set offensive line records with a 36.5" vertical jump and a 10'1" broad jump. He followed that up with an unofficial time of 4.86 seconds in the 40, including a 1.69-second 10-yard split. There were already high expectations for Wirfs heading into the 2020 NFL draft. He's ranked as the second-best offensive tackle and No. 16 overall prospect in this year's class by B/R's Matt Miller. “

    Brandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFL
    Tristan Wirfs at 322 pounds

    36.5 vertical (Combine record)
    10-1 broad (Combine record)
    1.69 40
    4.86 40 (1st attempt unofficial)
  • https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2878486-tristan-wirfs-breaks-nfl-combine-offensive-line-records-in-vertical-broad-jumps

    “Per The Athletic's Brandon Thorn, Wirfs set offensive line records with a 36.5" vertical jump and a 10'1" broad jump. He followed that up with an unofficial time of 4.86 seconds in the 40, including a 1.69-second 10-yard split. There were already high expectations for Wirfs heading into the 2020 NFL draft. He's ranked as the second-best offensive tackle and No. 16 overall prospect in this year's class by B/R's Matt Miller. “

    Brandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFL
    Tristan Wirfs at 322 pounds

    36.5 vertical (Combine record)
    10-1 broad (Combine record)
    1.69 40
    4.86 40 (1st attempt unofficial)

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2878486-tristan-wirfs-breaks-nfl-combine-offensive-line-records-in-vertical-broad-jumps

    “Per The Athletic's Brandon Thorn, Wirfs set offensive line records with a 36.5" vertical jump and a 10'1" broad jump. He followed that up with an unofficial time of 4.86 seconds in the 40, including a 1.69-second 10-yard split. There were already high expectations for Wirfs heading into the 2020 NFL draft. He's ranked as the second-best offensive tackle and No. 16 overall prospect in this year's class by B/R's Matt Miller. “

    Now that is an eye opener especially for a ZBS/RPO type O-line. Do some more research on this guy Tour.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2878486-tristan-wirfs-breaks-nfl-combine-offensive-line-records-in-vertical-broad-jumps

    “Per The Athletic's Brandon Thorn, Wirfs set offensive line records with a 36.5" vertical jump and a 10'1" broad jump. He followed that up with an unofficial time of 4.86 seconds in the 40, including a 1.69-second 10-yard split. There were already high expectations for Wirfs heading into the 2020 NFL draft. He's ranked as the second-best offensive tackle and No. 16 overall prospect in this year's class by B/R's Matt Miller. “

    Now that is an eye opener especially for a ZBS/RPO type O-line. Do some more research on this guy Tour.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Now that is an eye opener especially for a ZBS/RPO type O-line. Do some more research on this guy Tour.

    Our former OL Coach (Kirk Ferentz) did some research on him and Wirfs started all 4 years for him at Iowa.  One scout wrote he's the only OL/LT to accomplish that honor under Ferentz.   Another said he saw him as an OG (like Eric Steinbach and Robert Gallery transitioned into).  Those Underwear Olympic metrics might have that scout rethinking it while he's glad nobody attached his name to it.

  • Muti just put up 44 reps on the bench.

    Dear Christ...

    @tiamat63 said:

    Muti just put up 44 reps on the bench.

    1 former board member would have told us he did that in 6th grade with 1 hand while the other hand was taking inventory of Miss Ohio's groin.

    Then he would have forgotten how many times he already told us offensive linemen are a dime a dozen while Joe Thomas was making 10 consecutive Pro Bowls.      

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Muti just put up 44 reps on the bench.

    1 former board member would have told us he did that in 6th grade with 1 hand while the other hand was taking inventory of Miss Ohio's groin.

    Then he would have forgotten how many times he already told us offensive linemen are a dime a dozen while Joe Thomas was making 10 consecutive Pro Bowls.      

    @flugel said:

    1 former board member would have told us he did that in 6th grade with 1 hand while the other hand was taking inventory of Miss Ohio's groin.

    Then he would have forgotten how many times he already told us offensive linemen are a dime a dozen while Joe Thomas was making 10 consecutive Pro Bowls.      

    Well I'm a cold blooded cynic so I'm hoping that particular board member is alone and miserable in his twilight years.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Big Hoss wants 5.2 ?  

    In that case he should have run slower... 🙂

    Kid posted a 5.10...

    Wirfs led the way with a 4.85. Wills 5.05.

    Thomas posted a 7.58 3-cone. Wirfs 7.65.

    Wirfs name pops up among the leaders for a lot of the drills.

    @tour2ma said:

    In that case he should have run slower... 🙂

    Kid posted a 5.10...

    Mt. Becton put a huge 🙂 on my face the rest of the night.. I wanted to post, but I fell so far behind re-running for split times..I didn't finish 1st viewing till after midnight..

    They said, Big Hoss dropped some of his water weight, running the 40 at 357 lbs. He still finished 10th of all linemen with a 1.77 10 split on 2nd 40.. That's damn football scary? folks.. And most have not mentioned it on the networks..But i'd bet money that is what Mayock got a chuckle out of..

    Anywho? I got even further behind while listening to JT#73 take the mic from the other hack to break down drills with actual* tech talk..Joe's so damn solid talking the tech's of the game.(period!) btw, i thought some* of the new OL drills went soft/gay...#fredthesledwasdead, so let them play for christ cakes!! 

    Wills & Wirfs did what we thought they would do... they killed it.....but, I have a harder time matching Wirfs numbers, than to Wills on tape..  

    i know some don't like early player comparisons..but

    Imho--Technique-wise a+)Wills is every bit the Jonah Williams of this Draft..he can LT/#73.. b.) T. Wirfs is the Andre Dillard....honestly, i think c.) Andrew Thomas took a small slide, putting Wills slightly ahead in scouts minds..AT's drills just lacked something that i can't pinpoint yet?... Leaving d.) Becton, that can only be compared to Orlando 'Zeus' Brown, but far behind Zeus in position tech but of fighting a Bear ?... but it was OB that played the starter snaps of all mentioned above.

    In closing, We respect your OL views so, the floor is yours & I'll get off my TE soapbox...but i need your opinion on Temple-Matt Hennessy at RG...he also blew me away in drills? thanks!     

    EDIT-- in my trying 230 lbs'ish playing TE day's.. i was ok with my Gun'z & Glute'z.....butt, not after seeing some of these sequoia trees push'em up & down....G00d God is !!   

  • A&M's Madabuike got a lot of Wows and Not a sleeper anymore after his 1.73 split and 4.83 40. My son had scouted him in HS and had warned his team then he was a dominating player as an ILB. A&M put weight on him and converted him into a DT. Doubt he will be there by the time of our 2nd pick.

  • A&M's Madabuike got a lot of Wows and Not a sleeper anymore after his 1.73 split and 4.83 40. My son had scouted him in HS and had warned his team then he was a dominating player as an ILB. A&M put weight on him and converted him into a DT. Doubt he will be there by the time of our 2nd pick.

    @texasag1969 said:

    A&M's Madabuike got a lot of Wows and Not a sleeper anymore after his 1.73 split and 4.83 40.

    Like that kid^^..Nebraska's Khalil Davis & Derrick Brown are killing these drills.. I like the new D drills already.. O not so much

    Edit--hey Rich, how bout a final 40 time list with 10 splits times before the DE's?      I see ya, Strowbridge?.. nice day Heel 

  • I can’t believe a dude who got caught at the border with 158 pounds of weed was protecting our franchise QB’s blindside 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    A&M's Madabuike got a lot of Wows and Not a sleeper anymore after his 1.73 split and 4.83 40.

    Like that kid^^..Nebraska's Khalil Davis & Derrick Brown are killing these drills.. I like the new D drills already.. O not so much

    Edit--hey Rich, how bout a final 40 time list with 10 splits times before the DE's?      I see ya, Strowbridge?.. nice day Heel 

    @gumby73 said:

    Like that kid^^..Nebraska's Khalil Davis & Derrick Brown are killing these drills.. I like the new D drills already.. O not so much

    Edit--hey Rich, how bout a final 40 time list with 10 splits times before the DE's?      I see ya, Strowbridge?.. nice day Heel 

    Madabuike added a 31 rep bench press and a 7.37 3 cone drill. His stock should be reflected moving upward in the mocks following the combine completion.

    He was going to be my outside rd 1 dark horse this year, but I think he's now been "discovered" into round 1. If he's round two then I get to keep him.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Now that is an eye opener especially for a ZBS/RPO type O-line. Do some more research on this guy Tour.

    Our former OL Coach (Kirk Ferentz) did some research on him and Wirfs started all 4 years for him at Iowa.  One scout wrote he's the only OL/LT to accomplish that honor under Ferentz.   Another said he saw him as an OG (like Eric Steinbach and Robert Gallery transitioned into).  Those Underwear Olympic metrics might have that scout rethinking it while he's glad nobody attached his name to it.

    @flugel said:

    Our former OL Coach (Kirk Ferentz) did some research on him and Wirfs started all 4 years for him at Iowa.  One scout wrote he's the only OL/LT to accomplish that honor under Ferentz.   Another said he saw him as an OG (like Eric Steinbach and Robert Gallery transitioned into).  Those Underwear Olympic metrics might have that scout rethinking it while he's glad nobody attached his name to it.

    It was Scheffter who's things Wirfs projects better at OG.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Well I'm a cold blooded cynic so I'm hoping that particular board member is alone and miserable in his twilight years.

    He's all alone in his FaceBook world. Maybe hoping to purify that Lake Meade water. He had a snit when Kathy gave Z the OK to kick him off for good, and a lot of us are blocked seeing what he's currently up to. Not that I care much.  🙂  

  • @flugel said:

    Our former OL Coach (Kirk Ferentz) did some research on him and Wirfs started all 4 years for him at Iowa.  One scout wrote he's the only OL/LT to accomplish that honor under Ferentz.   Another said he saw him as an OG (like Eric Steinbach and Robert Gallery transitioned into).  Those Underwear Olympic metrics might have that scout rethinking it while he's glad nobody attached his name to it.

    It was Scheffter who's things Wirfs projects better at OG.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Well I'm a cold blooded cynic so I'm hoping that particular board member is alone and miserable in his twilight years.

    He's all alone in his FaceBook world. Maybe hoping to purify that Lake Meade water. He had a snit when Kathy gave Z the OK to kick him off for good, and a lot of us are blocked seeing what he's currently up to. Not that I care much.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    It was Scheffter who's things Wirfs projects better at OG.  

    He's all alone in his FaceBook world. Maybe hoping to purify that Lake Meade water. He had a snit when Kathy gave Z the OK to kick him off for good, and a lot of us are blocked seeing what he's currently up to. Not that I care much.  🙂  

    It was also a scout in an article I read Larry.   I never use Schefter as a football expert's opinion but I'll read his insider stuff.  Then again, this 1 team or 1 NFL Scout said stuff sucks sometimes...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Muti just put up 44 reps on the bench.

    1 former board member would have told us he did that in 6th grade with 1 hand while the other hand was taking inventory of Miss Ohio's groin.

    Then he would have forgotten how many times he already told us offensive linemen are a dime a dozen while Joe Thomas was making 10 consecutive Pro Bowls.      

    @flugel said:

    1 former board member would have told us he did that in 6th grade with 1 hand while the other hand was taking inventory of Miss Ohio's groin. 

    No such claim here, but reminded me that I graduated HS with a then soon to be former Miss Ohio USA... Jackie Urbanek. Pretty girl who went full-blown gorgeous on her way to her crown. Sorry... no photo found.

    I don't remember the former board member going to my HS though...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    A&M's Madabuike got a lot of Wows and Not a sleeper anymore after his 1.73 split and 4.83 40.

    Like that kid^^..Nebraska's Khalil Davis & Derrick Brown are killing these drills.. I like the new D drills already.. O not so much

    Edit--hey Rich, how bout a final 40 time list with 10 splits times before the DE's?      I see ya, Strowbridge?.. nice day Heel 

    @gumby73 said:

    Edit--hey Rich, how bout a final 40 time list with 10 splits times before the DE's?      I see ya, Strowbridge?.. nice day Heel

    Meanwhile back at the thread...

    Searching for a summary of 10-yd splits the goggle machine turned up this link. Yes, it's to a Steeler site, which explains why it's not sortable, but it is the best I've found.

    Note: You may have to maximize your browser to see the 3-cone results in the final column.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2020-nfl-scouting-combine-results-tracker/

  • bump! from pg.4...  mock draft use^^ just deal with it ?