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    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    TL4h.gif      SWO1.gif   >>> That's a bunch of cube- shi#...      

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      ...tell ya what though, if we could get back what we traded for him, I'd do it.  I mean, he's talented and all...and we need someone talented like him....but he's not worth what we gave up.  On many levels.

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        @the-gipper said:

        Sports Talking Heads making speculation is not a source that a team is interested in making a trade. 

        https://www.radio.com/sports/nfl-trade-rumors-5-destinations-for-odell-beckham-jr

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        @icecube said:

        https://www.radio.com/sports/nfl-trade-rumors-5-destinations-for-odell-beckham-jr

        Wow- Radio.com, right up there with ESPN and NFLN- um not. Unfounded silly season hot air trying to get clicks. Notice the title "rumors"- like they have lots of sources.  Right up there with the old Incarcerated Bob BS.  

        As Tia pointed out- at least 6 weeks old to boot.....  

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          @icecube said:

          https://www.radio.com/sports/nfl-trade-rumors-5-destinations-for-odell-beckham-jr

          Wow- Radio.com, right up there with ESPN and NFLN- um not. Unfounded silly season hot air trying to get clicks. Notice the title "rumors"- like they have lots of sources.  Right up there with the old Incarcerated Bob BS.  

          As Tia pointed out- at least 6 weeks old to boot.....  

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          @hoorta said:

          Wow- Radio.com, right up there with ESPN and NFLN- um not. Unfounded silly season hot air trying to get clicks. Notice the title "rumors"- like they have lots of sources.  Right up there with the old Incarcerated Bob BS.  

          As Tia pointed out- at least 6 weeks old to boot.....  

          It's pretty obvious icecube has been spending time in the twilight zone.. Old messages reflected back from Mars apparently.

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            ...tell ya what though, if we could get back what we traded for him, I'd do it.  I mean, he's talented and all...and we need someone talented like him....but he's not worth what we gave up.  On many levels.

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            @orion said:

            ...tell ya what though, if we could get back what we traded for him, I'd do it.  I mean, he's talented and all...and we need someone talented like him....but he's not worth what we gave up.  On many levels.

            Oh hell yes I would.

            But there isn't a chance that is happening, sadly. 

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              Funny thread... not sure what prompted it, however. Maybe trying to settle an old score... but ending up racking up a couple new ones instead?

              Anyway...

              Word directly from our local press is that while not actively shopping OBJ Berry will answer the phone.

              "Odell’s a very talented football player,'' Berry said. "We view him as part of our future. Kevin (Stephanski) and I both have had really good conversations about our expectations for him and we expect him to adapt to those moving forward. We’re excited about the future with Odell, excited about what he’s going to do this fall.''

              “I won’t discuss any specific player in terms of trade opportunities, trade calls or anything like that,’’ Berry said when specifically asked about Beckham. “I did work under probably the strongest wheeler-dealer in the league under [Eagles GM] Howie Roseman and it’s something that you always pick up the phone and you listen to anything across the table."

              “A lot of trade talk ends up being hollow across the NFL anyway. But again, we’re going to exploit any opportunity to improve the roster through any means necessary.’’

              https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/browns-gm-andrew-berry-will-listen-to-trade-offers-for-odell-beckham-jr-and-others-upgrade-through-any-means-necessary.html

              I'm sure there are a few teams out there that will call.

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                @icecube said:

                Jokes so much on you they call you the "Joker."

                It wasn't on at 6 AM, came on later, like after 10. Did you watch at that time? And then there is this. 

                https://www.radio.com/sports/nfl-trade-rumors-5-destinations-for-odell-beckham-jr

                Bing, bang, slang and sloober, just found out I ain't no goober. 

                Jester.  I'm actually called Jester at work. 

                No, I didn't, because I work for a living.      Can you provide a link to the show you're talking about?   Because what you're linking is a month & 1/2 old article that isn't ESPN, Fox or CBS.  Basically any outlet with a pulse of credibility.     Which is a complete farcry from what you said you saw THIS (3/3/20) AM.

                And cut with that Cal talk.   Shit is weird. 

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                @tiamat63 said:

                Jester.  I'm actually called Jester at work. 

                No, I didn't, because I work for a living.      Can you provide a link to the show you're talking about?   Because what you're linking is a month & 1/2 old article that isn't ESPN, Fox or CBS.  Basically any outlet with a pulse of credibility.     Which is a complete farcry from what you said you saw THIS (3/3/20) AM.

                And cut with that Cal talk.   Shit is weird. 

                Truth is, Browns can't get anywhere near what they want for OBJ, it's cold lookin like all they can get is a 3rd. I mean, he ain't no AB (as far as him being nuts), he's a 1035 yard, 4 TD guy. Not horrible, but no one will pay him his salary for that, and with his ....acting up. Honestly, he'd excel on a few teams, but they ain't gonna pony up for that much cheese. Imagine him on SF, Seattle, Ravens, Bills...

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                  Well, I guess I'm not crazy after all. Word is, from multiple sources, Browns want to trade him. It's just not working, he's not a fit. 

                  But they claim they want AT LEAST what they paid for him. (A 1st and 3rd and a decent player). That ain't happening. Most they get is a 2nd and maybe not that. 

                  And I just heard Jags dumped Boyea for a 4th....that's crazy. They went from a team with the best CB duo (also had Ramsey) to having a bare cupboard at CB. 

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                  @icecube said:

                  Well, I guess I'm not crazy after all. Word is, from multiple sources, Browns want to trade him. It's just not working, he's not a fit. 

                  But they claim they want AT LEAST what they paid for him. (A 1st and 3rd and a decent player). That ain't happening. Most they get is a 2nd and maybe not that. 

                  And I just heard Jags dumped Boyea for a 4th....that's crazy. They went from a team with the best CB duo (also had Ramsey) to having a bare cupboard at CB. 

                  Even the first sentence misses the mark. 

                  Masterly retreat is in itself a victory.

                  Stop lying, and if they find out your lie, stop trying to argument using the only article (6 weeks old) that supports your point of view. It's kind of pathetic. 

                  To put it simply: Don't waste our time. 

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                    Funny thread... not sure what prompted it, however. Maybe trying to settle an old score... but ending up racking up a couple new ones instead?

                    Anyway...

                    Word directly from our local press is that while not actively shopping OBJ Berry will answer the phone.

                    "Odell’s a very talented football player,'' Berry said. "We view him as part of our future. Kevin (Stephanski) and I both have had really good conversations about our expectations for him and we expect him to adapt to those moving forward. We’re excited about the future with Odell, excited about what he’s going to do this fall.''

                    “I won’t discuss any specific player in terms of trade opportunities, trade calls or anything like that,’’ Berry said when specifically asked about Beckham. “I did work under probably the strongest wheeler-dealer in the league under [Eagles GM] Howie Roseman and it’s something that you always pick up the phone and you listen to anything across the table."

                    “A lot of trade talk ends up being hollow across the NFL anyway. But again, we’re going to exploit any opportunity to improve the roster through any means necessary.’’

                    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/02/browns-gm-andrew-berry-will-listen-to-trade-offers-for-odell-beckham-jr-and-others-upgrade-through-any-means-necessary.html

                    I'm sure there are a few teams out there that will call.

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Funny thread... not sure what prompted it, however. Maybe trying to settle an old score... but ending up racking up a couple new ones instead?

                    Anyway...

                    Word directly from our local press is that while not actively shopping OBJ Berry will answer the phone.

                    I'm sure there are a few teams out there that will call.

                    Thank you, Tour2ma, the reason they are not "actively" shopping him is they already know what the market is, and no deal is close. Browns want something close to what they paid for him....bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Not gonna happen. Under his current contract, teams won't take him on that alone, forget a high draft pick too. 

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                      @icecube said:

                      Well, I guess I'm not crazy after all. Word is, from multiple sources, Browns want to trade him. It's just not working, he's not a fit. 

                      But they claim they want AT LEAST what they paid for him. (A 1st and 3rd and a decent player). That ain't happening. Most they get is a 2nd and maybe not that. 

                      And I just heard Jags dumped Boyea for a 4th....that's crazy. They went from a team with the best CB duo (also had Ramsey) to having a bare cupboard at CB. 

                      Even the first sentence misses the mark. 

                      Masterly retreat is in itself a victory.

                      Stop lying, and if they find out your lie, stop trying to argument using the only article (6 weeks old) that supports your point of view. It's kind of pathetic. 

                      To put it simply: Don't waste our time. 

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                      @nero said:

                      Even the first sentence misses the mark. 

                      Masterly retreat is in itself a victory.

                      Stop lying, and if they find out your lie, stop trying to argument using the only article (6 weeks old) that supports your point of view. It's kind of pathetic. 

                      To put it simply: Don't waste our time. 

                      Awwww, really? So, you don't realize Browns had some chats about OBJ? OK, there. 

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                        Why have the Browns announced that OBJ will be one of the guys modeling the new uniform in April?

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                        @orion said:

                        Why have the Browns announced that OBJ will be one of the guys modeling the new uniform in April?

                        Because they are stuck with him and they knew it back then. But their phones were still open if someone wanted to give up a 1st rounder.

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                          OBJ will never be the same player again.. I say get what ya can for him...

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                            OBJ will never be the same player again.. I say get what ya can for him...

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                            OBJ will never be the same player again.. I say get what ya can for him...

                            Cory Coleman and a 7th rounder from the Giants

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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              Jester.  I'm actually called Jester at work. 

                              No, I didn't, because I work for a living.      Can you provide a link to the show you're talking about?   Because what you're linking is a month & 1/2 old article that isn't ESPN, Fox or CBS.  Basically any outlet with a pulse of credibility.     Which is a complete farcry from what you said you saw THIS (3/3/20) AM.

                              And cut with that Cal talk.   Shit is weird. 

                              Truth is, Browns can't get anywhere near what they want for OBJ, it's cold lookin like all they can get is a 3rd. I mean, he ain't no AB (as far as him being nuts), he's a 1035 yard, 4 TD guy. Not horrible, but no one will pay him his salary for that, and with his ....acting up. Honestly, he'd excel on a few teams, but they ain't gonna pony up for that much cheese. Imagine him on SF, Seattle, Ravens, Bills...

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                              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                              @icecube said:

                              (as far as him being nuts),

                              he's a 1035 yard, 4 TD guy. Not horrible, but no one will pay him his salary for that, and with his ....acting up. Honestly, he'd excel on a few teams, but they ain't gonna pony up for that much cheese. Imagine him on SF, Seattle, Ravens, Bills...

                              Who's being the Nut here? ?  And why does this guy who's acting 27, get tagged as 'acting up"? Have ya got thru a 16 game season with a core injury? played another season on a bad ankle? with those kinda numbers? Check his charity work & what his teammates think & get back with us.. Even our* Media respects his honesty. When ya see a read on abuse, assault, lbs. of weed or DUI issues? Am sure you will be rushing to the front of the line to post it.. till than, OBJ can excel staying right here in Cleveland... 

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                                Man, I'm so weary of people in our society spouting total bullshit and when rightly called out only doubling down on their stupidity. Way, way, too much of that in the world today.

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Funny thread... not sure what prompted it, however. Maybe trying to settle an old score... but ending up racking up a couple new ones instead?

                                  Anyway...

                                  Word directly from our local press is that while not actively shopping OBJ Berry will answer the phone.

                                  I'm sure there are a few teams out there that will call.

                                  Thank you, Tour2ma, the reason they are not "actively" shopping him is they already know what the market is, and no deal is close. Browns want something close to what they paid for him....bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Not gonna happen. Under his current contract, teams won't take him on that alone, forget a high draft pick too. 

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                                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                  @icecube said:

                                  Thank you, Tour2ma, the reason they are not "actively" shopping him is they already know what the market is, and no deal is close. Browns want something close to what they paid for him....bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Not gonna happen. Under his current contract, teams won't take him on that alone, forget a high draft pick too. 

                                  Your welcome... I guess... but not sure why the thanks since I disputed at least two points in your OP.

                                  1. The implication that we are actively trying to move him.. and...
                                  2. That he's not wanted... not working out.
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                                    @icecube said:

                                    (as far as him being nuts),

                                    he's a 1035 yard, 4 TD guy. Not horrible, but no one will pay him his salary for that, and with his ....acting up. Honestly, he'd excel on a few teams, but they ain't gonna pony up for that much cheese. Imagine him on SF, Seattle, Ravens, Bills...

                                    Who's being the Nut here? ?  And why does this guy who's acting 27, get tagged as 'acting up"? Have ya got thru a 16 game season with a core injury? played another season on a bad ankle? with those kinda numbers? Check his charity work & what his teammates think & get back with us.. Even our* Media respects his honesty. When ya see a read on abuse, assault, lbs. of weed or DUI issues? Am sure you will be rushing to the front of the line to post it.. till than, OBJ can excel staying right here in Cleveland... 

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                                    @gumby73 said:

                                    Who's being the Nut here? ?  And why does this guy who's acting 27, get tagged as 'acting up"? Have ya got thru a 16 game season with a core injury? played another season on a bad ankle? with those kinda numbers? Check his charity work & what his teammates think & get back with us.. Even our* Media respects his honesty. When ya see a read on abuse, assault, lbs. of weed or DUI issues? Am sure you will be rushing to the front of the line to post it.. till than, OBJ can excel staying right here in Cleveland... 

                                          get right & avoid the noise #13

                                    Hmmm, yes, "excel?" Hmmmmm. Along with his nearly weekly baggage that adds distraction and diminishes focus towards winning (i.e. wearing large watches during games, wearing unapproved shoes,  wearing visors that are knowingly breaking conformity, etc.) his cost - without even considering the distraction/attention whoring negatives, his pay is not worth his production. 

                                    He is, as of now, the 4th-highest paid WR in the NFL, and has $65,000,000 guaranteed. 

                                    https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver/

                                    OK, there. 4th highest paid while (drum roll please) is 26th in receiving yards....26th. That being said, he was 65th in receiving TDs scored among WRs/TEs/RBs. So, forgive those of us who don't consider being 4th highest paid while being such a low producer in yards and TDs a good value. Then add in the fact that he is still a major distraction week in and week out, and you have one of the worst values in the NFL. And as Shannon Sharpe always says, if you're healthy enough to play, don't give me injuries as an excuse for not producing...period. (Ulike all of us, Shannon is a Hall of Fame player and an NFL expert.) 

                                    Bottom line, Browns can't get anything for him in a trade, and they know it, so they have stopped shopping him. They are stuck with him (and his petulant child act) and there is nothing they can do about it. Their only hope is they start winning, as his attitude will get better. 

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                                      OBJ will never be the same player again.. I say get what ya can for him...

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                                      @nickers said:

                                      OBJ will never be the same player again.. I say get what ya can for him...

                                      The problem is...

                                      1.) They can get virtually nothing for him, at least not compared to what they gave up for him (1st, 3rd rounder AND a decent player). He was the 26th WR in receiving yards in 2019 and 65th in rec. TDs). Find me a team willing to pay a top-4 WR salary for that production. 

                                      2.) Mr. Jimmy's ego can't take settling for a mere 3rd rounder after what he gave up for him.  That would be admitting what a bad trade he was. Mr. Jimmy doesn't want to virtually stand in a corner with a dunce cap on. 

                                      We don't know how well Stef can bond with and motivate players, this will be a nice test. If he gets OBJ to knock off the baby routine and focus and produce, this could end up being a whole different story. But Mr. Jimmy has to get the hell out of the way. 

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                                        @icecube said:

                                        (as far as him being nuts),

                                        he's a 1035 yard, 4 TD guy. Not horrible, but no one will pay him his salary for that, and with his ....acting up. Honestly, he'd excel on a few teams, but they ain't gonna pony up for that much cheese. Imagine him on SF, Seattle, Ravens, Bills...

                                        Who's being the Nut here? ?  And why does this guy who's acting 27, get tagged as 'acting up"? Have ya got thru a 16 game season with a core injury? played another season on a bad ankle? with those kinda numbers? Check his charity work & what his teammates think & get back with us.. Even our* Media respects his honesty. When ya see a read on abuse, assault, lbs. of weed or DUI issues? Am sure you will be rushing to the front of the line to post it.. till than, OBJ can excel staying right here in Cleveland... 

                                              get right & avoid the noise #13

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                                        @gumby73 said:

                                        Who's being the Nut here? ?  And why does this guy who's acting 27, get tagged as 'acting up"?

                                        Wait, you acted like OBJ when you were 27? You thought the entire world should revolve around you and threw tantrums all the time? Dear word. 

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                                          @icecube said:

                                          Yea, try ESPN, Fox Sports and CBS Sports. Kaboom, someone just lost his teeth!

                                          Prove

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Prove

                                          Yea, it's called listening to sports shows. It's really hard to grasp. 

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