Coronavirus and the NFL
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For Coronavirus.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/saints-coach-sean-payton-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/
First in the NFL
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I got home tonight and found my laptop had a virus. So I put it back in its box and in the closet for 14 days
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Calling it now: Next season may not happen.
You're going to get it -- the point of quarantine isn't to avoid. The point is to be more like St Louis during the spanish flu of 1919.
In the US at present, 9 out of 10 tests are coming back negative for C.. fun,because you don't get tested unless you have some kind of symptom.. and the only way you keep testing for corona is after you're negative for both flu A and B. If the test throws positive for A, they stop.. and if for B, they stop.
So how exactly do you prevent cross-contamination in a doctor's office == If you've got A and now get corona, you'd better not have any risk factors if you plan to live.
TLDR: Stay away from doctors' offices and ED's for testing.
Medicine has nothing to compensate once you lose certain levels of lung capacity.. there never was and never will be a substitute for a healthy human body. One unfortunate issue is the people who would otherwise survive a trauma [or some such] if they could get a vent, but can't - because the civilian population has trouble accepting or understanding military-level triage. This will take no less than 12-18 months to go thru the entire population until ~70% had it and now have immunity thus R stops being meaningful.
As for testing.. we can't test without the capacity to manufacture those tests, and we can't get treated without the capacity to gown and mask up. It's almost like it was a bad thing to allow all our manufacturing capacity to leave whilst telling ourselves in the mirror that everyone wants to be Just Like Us... patriotism isn't an industrial policy.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Calling it now: Next season may not happen.
You're going to get it -- the point of quarantine isn't to avoid. The point is to be more like St Louis during the spanish flu of 1919.
In the US at present, 9 out of 10 tests are coming back negative for C.. fun,because you don't get tested unless you have some kind of symptom.. and the only way you keep testing for corona is after you're negative for both flu A and B. If the test throws positive for A, they stop.. and if for B, they stop.
So how exactly do you prevent cross-contamination in a doctor's office == If you've got A and now get corona, you'd better not have any risk factors if you plan to live.
TLDR: Stay away from doctors' offices and ED's for testing.
Medicine has nothing to compensate once you lose certain levels of lung capacity.. there never was and never will be a substitute for a healthy human body. One unfortunate issue is the people who would otherwise survive a trauma [or some such] if they could get a vent, but can't - because the civilian population has trouble accepting or understanding military-level triage. This will take no less than 12-18 months to go thru the entire population until ~70% had it and now have immunity thus R stops being meaningful.
As for testing.. we can't test without the capacity to manufacture those tests, and we can't get treated without the capacity to gown and mask up. It's almost like it was a bad thing to allow all our manufacturing capacity to leave whilst telling ourselves in the mirror that everyone wants to be Just Like Us... patriotism isn't an industrial policy.
Calling it now: Next season may not happen.
Thought has crossed my mind as well... at least not in its entirety.
Even if we tamp it down now and it turns out that summer heat does impact transmittal, it may well make a Fall comeback.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Calling it now: Next season may not happen.
Thought has crossed my mind as well... at least not in its entirety.
Even if we tamp it down now and it turns out that summer heat does impact transmittal, it may well make a Fall comeback.
Thought has crossed my mind as well... at least not in its entirety.
Even if we tamp it down now and it turns out that summer heat does impact transmittal, it may well make a Fall comeback.
Or it spreads enough and there's herd immunity.... We'll know how lethal it really is when we get a handle on the survival rates of infected folks that are otherwise healthy.
the 19 is here to stay untill there is a cure
No "cure" for a virus, just effective vaccines and treatment. It took years to develop effective anti-retro viral drugs to combat AIDS. When that disease first started spreading, you were a certain goner- like Freddie Mercury.
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Thought has crossed my mind as well... at least not in its entirety.
Even if we tamp it down now and it turns out that summer heat does impact transmittal, it may well make a Fall comeback.
Or it spreads enough and there's herd immunity.... We'll know how lethal it really is when we get a handle on the survival rates of infected folks that are otherwise healthy.
the 19 is here to stay untill there is a cure
No "cure" for a virus, just effective vaccines and treatment. It took years to develop effective anti-retro viral drugs to combat AIDS. When that disease first started spreading, you were a certain goner- like Freddie Mercury.
Or it spreads enough and there's herd immunity.... We'll know how lethal it really is when we get a handle on the survival rates of infected folks that are otherwise healthy.
No "cure" for a virus, just effective vaccines and treatment. It took years to develop effective anti-retro viral drugs to combat AIDS. When that disease first started spreading, you were a certain goner- like Freddie Mercury.
hep c meds are pretty much a cure....i think the best anti viral cures up to 96 to 98 percent...pretty close to an all out cure...
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Or it spreads enough and there's herd immunity.... We'll know how lethal it really is when we get a handle on the survival rates of infected folks that are otherwise healthy.
No "cure" for a virus, just effective vaccines and treatment. It took years to develop effective anti-retro viral drugs to combat AIDS. When that disease first started spreading, you were a certain goner- like Freddie Mercury.
hep c meds are pretty much a cure....i think the best anti viral cures up to 96 to 98 percent...pretty close to an all out cure...
hep c meds are pretty much a cure....i think the best anti viral cures up to 96 to 98 percent...pretty close to an all out cure...
Well, yes regarding hepatitis c, forgot about that one. But IIRC you had better have great drug coverage if you want treatment.
Estimated costs for a standard 12-week treatment with sosobuvir was $84,000
But LOL, that's not the crisis virus of the moment. When I researched it, the estimate is 2,000,000+ people in the USA are infected with hep c, and golly gee- if untreated a bunch of those folks die.
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As of typing this, in South Korea where they have been testing the highest and for the longest, the official numbers are:
South Korea: Total Infected: 8,799 Died: 104 Death Rate: 0.0118 ( https://ncov2019.live/data )
In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 36 million illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Death Rate: 0.0594
It's not 19 I'm worried about..... it's the total hysteria and the actions of our "trusted leaders" causing the eventual Greatest Depression Ever that will devastate life as we know it.
Football? lol
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Thought has crossed my mind as well... at least not in its entirety.
Even if we tamp it down now and it turns out that summer heat does impact transmittal, it may well make a Fall comeback.
Or it spreads enough and there's herd immunity.... We'll know how lethal it really is when we get a handle on the survival rates of infected folks that are otherwise healthy.
the 19 is here to stay untill there is a cure
No "cure" for a virus, just effective vaccines and treatment. It took years to develop effective anti-retro viral drugs to combat AIDS. When that disease first started spreading, you were a certain goner- like Freddie Mercury.
Or it spreads enough and there's herd immunity.... We'll know how lethal it really is when we get a handle on the survival rates of infected folks that are otherwise healthy.
No "cure" for a virus, just effective vaccines and treatment. It took years to develop effective anti-retro viral drugs to combat AIDS. When that disease first started spreading, you were a certain goner- like Freddie Mercury.
The problem with HIV was it was a virus constantly changing so there was never going to be a vaccine that would get approved by the FDA in time to be effective. Having said that, you are correct Hoorta that it can be treated with meds that prolong life as long as they are compliant. Again, because the virus rapidly changes if someone goes off their prescribed drug for any length of time - that particular drug may no longer be effective once they try to resume with it. Furthermore, the people that don't stop IV drug abuse while they have AIDS can still die prematurely (not sure if it's from the drug abuse or AIDS or the synergistic combination of the 2). Soooo, you have to be compliant with treatment and take it serious - which isn't always easy for some previous lifestyles to completely about-face.
Both of William Green's parents had it and died from it. His father died when William was 12 and his mother died 1 year later. William's dad was an IV drug user with heroin; and he gave the disease to William's mother (which he never forgave his father for). Lucky for William and his siblings, their grandmother raised them. I know some people remember William most for his short NFL career that got sideswiped by bad choices off the field. But somewhere in that guy there was a resilience that got him through high school and a scholarship to play football at BC. Unfortunately, he had a couple suspensions for marijuana use during his college career. Through it all, he became the 1st RB drafted in the 2002 NFL Draft. Remember the last year Cleveland made the playoffs? It was 2002. Green emerged after a slow start to average over 100 yards rushing per game over the last 7 games (we went 5-2 in that span). 96 vrs Cin, 114 vrs NO, 94 vrs Car, 119 vrs Jax, 69 vrs Ind, 178 vrs Atl. Prior to his suspension the next year, he had a couple games over 100 yards vrs Oak and Pitt before X's and O's turned into Ex's and Uh-Ohs...
Back to resilience, William became and ordained Minister in 2012. Once he started sharing his walk, the demand to hear him speak increased like the demand to see him play football in the Big East did once upon a time. Schools, churches and corporations were constantly booking him to speak. Last I heard, he had 8 kids. Football wasn't William Green's greater purpose. It was merely a reminder that life also handed him enough gifts and strengths to overcome bad choices, persevere and become a successful motivational speaker.
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hep c meds are pretty much a cure....i think the best anti viral cures up to 96 to 98 percent...pretty close to an all out cure...
Well, yes regarding hepatitis c, forgot about that one. But IIRC you had better have great drug coverage if you want treatment.
Estimated costs for a standard 12-week treatment with sosobuvir was $84,000
But LOL, that's not the crisis virus of the moment. When I researched it, the estimate is 2,000,000+ people in the USA are infected with hep c, and golly gee- if untreated a bunch of those folks die.
Well, yes regarding hepatitis c, forgot about that one. But IIRC you had better have great drug coverage if you want treatment.
Estimated costs for a standard 12-week treatment with sosobuvir was $84,000
But LOL, that's not the crisis virus of the moment. When I researched it, the estimate is 2,000,000+ people in the USA are infected with hep c, and golly gee- if untreated a bunch of those folks die.
So true, cures or at least supression at a cost.
I've been dealing with a tunneling wound in my hip for 5+ years and thank goodness I had/have good insurance. I've had two bouts of aestomylitis (infection) of the hip then pelvis in 2017 and 2019 which took months and months of inpatient treatments at a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Plus my wife is a nurse and I have many good doctors -but- it is expensive.
And now we have a pandemic in 140+ countries...... serious stuff.
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As of typing this, in South Korea where they have been testing the highest and for the longest, the official numbers are:
South Korea: Total Infected: 8,799 Died: 104 Death Rate: 0.0118 ( https://ncov2019.live/data )
In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 36 million illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Death Rate: 0.0594
It's not 19 I'm worried about..... it's the total hysteria and the actions of our "trusted leaders" causing the eventual Greatest Depression Ever that will devastate life as we know it.
Football? lol
As of typing this, in South Korea where they have been testing the highest and for the longest, the official numbers are:
South Korea: Total Infected: 8,799 Died: 104 Death Rate: 0.0118 ( https://ncov2019.live/data )
In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 36 million illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Death Rate: 0.0594
It's not 19 I'm worried about..... it's the total hysteria and the actions of our "trusted leaders" causing the eventual Greatest Depression Ever that will devastate life as we know it.
Football? lol
Right on the $
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If we actually were up to speed doing the testing as we should be there would be a LOT more reported cases, famous or not.
If we actually were up to speed doing the testing as we should be there would be a LOT more reported cases, famous or not.
Yes. This. Obviously this is new and unprecedented so we're all learning how to handle it. However this statement above is why it is irresponsible to report on the death rate being high (over 3%). The only people being tested (that aren't rich and famous) are the most severe cases of COVID19. There are so many people who have it and recover but they aren't part of the statistics because they were never confirmed cases. Its like saying the death rate for breast cancer is 78% because that's what it is for stage 4 breast cancer (and those are the only types of cases they are confirming) but in reality the death rate of breast cancer as a whole is actually only 9%.
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If we actually were up to speed doing the testing as we should be there would be a LOT more reported cases, famous or not.
Yes. This. Obviously this is new and unprecedented so we're all learning how to handle it. However this statement above is why it is irresponsible to report on the death rate being high (over 3%). The only people being tested (that aren't rich and famous) are the most severe cases of COVID19. There are so many people who have it and recover but they aren't part of the statistics because they were never confirmed cases. Its like saying the death rate for breast cancer is 78% because that's what it is for stage 4 breast cancer (and those are the only types of cases they are confirming) but in reality the death rate of breast cancer as a whole is actually only 9%.
Yes. This. Obviously this is new and unprecedented so we're all learning how to handle it. However this statement above is why it is irresponsible to report on the death rate being high (over 3%). The only people being tested (that aren't rich and famous) are the most severe cases of COVID19. There are so many people who have it and recover but they aren't part of the statistics because they were never confirmed cases. Its like saying the death rate for breast cancer is 78% because that's what it is for stage 4 breast cancer (and those are the only types of cases they are confirming) but in reality the death rate of breast cancer as a whole is actually only 9%.
Exactly right. We won't know what the true morality rate of Corona is, because so many cases are asymptomatic or mild. Of the people who do show severe symptoms, we know it's plenty lethal in folks with additional health factors, or the very elderly. I'm still of the opinion going to the unprecedented steps that have been taken is excessive. Isolate those most at risk. We can't totally shut the country down for a year+ as one Harvard health expert opined if we're only interested in minimizing the deaths.
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