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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Good stuff, V...

    Checked email a bit ago and had message that a scam email with the title "Corona Virus" had been intercepted.

    On the pneumonia vaccine... I was aware it doesn't impact Covid-19, but still reduces occurrences of 2ndary infections the vaccine does work against. Early on many of the deaths that have occurred were reportedly due to "complications brought on by the virus."

    Anything on this?

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    @tour2ma said:

    Good stuff, V...

    Checked email a bit ago and had message that a scam email with the title "Corona Virus" had been intercepted.

    On the pneumonia vaccine... I was aware it doesn't impact Covid-19, but still reduces occurrences of 2ndary infections the vaccine does work against. Early on many of the deaths that have occurred were reportedly due to "complications brought on by the virus."

    Anything on this?

    Not that I'm aware of...

    Dr. Manny Alvarez says he's 'bullish' on anti-malaria drug to effectively treat coronavirus

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/manny-alvarez-bullish-chloroquine-malaria-drug-coronavirus

    On Wednesday, the World Health Organization (WHO) announced a multicountry clinical trial of four drugs as possible COVID-19 treatments -- one of those drugs is chloroquine.

    Chloroquine is widely available now and could be used off-label, but FDA commissioner Stephen Hahn explained that officials want a formal study to get good information on its safety and effectiveness. The drug was first used to treat malaria in 1944.

    CLICK HERE FOR THE FOX NEWS APP 

    "We're looking at drugs that are already approved for other indications" as a potential bridge or stopgap until studies are completed on other drugs under investigation, Hahn said.

    Earlier on Friday morning, Dr. Mehmet Oz expressed similar optimism about the potential treatment.

    “We have to give science a chance to win. ... Can you imagine if COVID-19 behaved like the flu virus? Would we be doing this? No, so let’s give science a chance to make this come into fruition," he said, urging all Americans to socially distance themselves to "bend the curve" on how quickly the virus is spreading.

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      I was reading today that 2-gram dose of Chloroquine is lethal.

      The daily does the Chinese used was half that per day, but in two, 500mg doses 10-hours apart.

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        Found the story...

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/virus-drug-touted-by-trump-musk-can-kill-in-just-two-grams/ar-BB11rIHa?ocid=spartandhp

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          I keep hearing that masks are worthless. So why, then, are they mandatory in China?

          Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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            Found the story...

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/virus-drug-touted-by-trump-musk-can-kill-in-just-two-grams/ar-BB11rIHa?ocid=spartandhp

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            @tour2ma said:

            Found the story...

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/virus-drug-touted-by-trump-musk-can-kill-in-just-two-grams/ar-BB11rIHa?ocid=spartandhp

            But what of hydrooxychloroquine? Otherwise known as plaquenil?

            My mom has been taking it for 8 years for RA and she's not dead yet. 

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              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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              I mean, seriously, Tylenol is lethal if you take enough. This shouldn't doom the drug if it shows promise.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                Hydroxychloroquine sulfate? I googled the oral LD 50 for that and it's 1240 mg/kg in rats.

                For Chloroquine the LD50 is 102 mg/kg, so it's 10 times more lethal than your Mom's Rx.

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                  I keep hearing that masks are worthless. So why, then, are they mandatory in China?

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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  I keep hearing that masks are worthless. So why, then, are they mandatory in China?

                  At about 1:50 he explains about the masks, it's an older video but informative maybe it will help your question.

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                    But plaquenil /hydroxychloroquine is, from what I've seen, the drug being used. Not the older chloroquine.

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                      I've got a bunch of n95 masks from 3m for working in dusty environments. I'm holding onto them for when shit gets real ugly though. 

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                        I mean, seriously, Tylenol is lethal if you take enough. This shouldn't doom the drug if it shows promise.

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                        I mean, seriously, Tylenol is lethal if you take enough. This shouldn't doom the drug if it shows promise.

                        And it won't doom the drug.

                        There's an old saying that the dose makes the poison... even aspirin poisoning is a real thing.

                        Obviously you want the greatest safety margin between an effective dose and a lethal one, but if the only game in town is one where the difference is a 2x or 4x multiple, then you go with it and warn warn warn about the dangers.

                        And still we are all not made the same. The lethal threshold does vary among individuals.

                        In one google search I did for the above post I glanced at a hit for a Chinese paper on some 2007 deaths due to Chloroquine overdose. This was back in trials to combat SARS.

                        And FYI.... the LD50 oral for Tylenol is over 2000 mg/kg. 😉

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                          Dr. Oz seems to be big on it...don't know a lot about this tv doctor except he is a real doctor who went to an IVY league school. 

                          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/dr-oz-cheers-chloroquine-treatment-of-coronavirus-biggest-game-changer-of-all-completely-changes-behavior-of-the-virus-will-know-in-six-days-if-successful-video/

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