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  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #4

    I like it.  Brings some beef on the edge to our base looks, he has the ability to play across the entire front in sub packages, also allows us to put Vernon on a pitch count when (if) he's restructured.   

    If not, allows us to sink a pick in a young pass rusher and give him a real shot at pacing development.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #5

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #6

    @tour2ma said:

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    Every time Garrett switched to DT he created an absolute quick twitch nightmare for those slower interior OLs. How many times did he fake the center and then split the C-G slot? If we had another edge guy it would be great to see him there much more often.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    Every time Garrett switched to DT he created an absolute quick twitch nightmare for those slower interior OLs. How many times did he fake the center and then split the C-G slot? If we had another edge guy it would be great to see him there much more often.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #7

    @texasag1969 said:

    If we had another edge guy it would be great to see him there much more often.

    Not to mention that our D was putting opponents in 3rd and long more...

    Also has not escaped my notice that we've been adding 3-4-ish pieces (Sorry, tia) to our D for our 3-4 lovin' DC...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @texasag1969 said:

    If we had another edge guy it would be great to see him there much more often.

    Not to mention that our D was putting opponents in 3rd and long more...

    Also has not escaped my notice that we've been adding 3-4-ish pieces (Sorry, tia) to our D for our 3-4 lovin' DC...

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #8

    @tour2ma said:

    Not to mention that our D was putting opponents in 3rd and long more...

    Also has not escaped my notice that we've been adding 3-4-ish pieces (Sorry, tia) to our D for our 3-4 lovin' DC...

    Take Von from Denver then. He can still play high level.?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @texasag1969 said:

    If we had another edge guy it would be great to see him there much more often.

    Not to mention that our D was putting opponents in 3rd and long more...

    Also has not escaped my notice that we've been adding 3-4-ish pieces (Sorry, tia) to our D for our 3-4 lovin' DC...

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #9

    @tour2ma said:

    Not to mention that our D was putting opponents in 3rd and long more...

    Also has not escaped my notice that we've been adding 3-4-ish pieces (Sorry, tia) to our D for our 3-4 lovin' DC...

    "Odd" fronts.   Me thinks specifically to combat looks from the Ravens and Bills.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #10

    @tour2ma said:

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    darren15D Tour2maT S 3 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    darren15D darren15 wrote on
    #11

    @the-gipper said:

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    And a WR3 now we dont have Higgins and Calloway

  • darren15D darren15

    @the-gipper said:

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    And a WR3 now we dont have Higgins and Calloway

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #12

    @darren15 said:

    And a WR3 now we dont have Higgins and Calloway

    Higgins status still up in the air, no? 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @darren15 said:

    And a WR3 now we dont have Higgins and Calloway

    Higgins status still up in the air, no? 

    darren15D darren15 wrote on
    #13

    @the-gipper said:

    Higgins status still up in the air, no? 

    Yes....last I heard he was talking to the Bills but they since signed Diggs

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #14

    Ratley? Thought he showed some signs last season.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    We have numbers for the DL... but not depth... especially young, talented depth.

    Are there areas of greater need? Yes, but this LB class is not deep.

    And OL and 2ndary are at least as set as DL... so to my mind it's still a BPA draft with need as a tie-breaker.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    While I see Adrian in our Edge rotation, I can also see him inside platooning with Billings in obvious pass sits...

    Garrett and Clayborn lined up as DTs would have some IOL soiling themselves.

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #15

    @the-gipper said:

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    I think we need another "dancing bear".  I'd take a flyer on one on the third day.  I don't trust the availability of some of these guys.  

  • S SdBacker80

    @the-gipper said:

    I think this covers us along the DL such that we won't need to grab one in the draft.   Browns can concentrate on  OL /LB/DBs.

    I think we need another "dancing bear".  I'd take a flyer on one on the third day.  I don't trust the availability of some of these guys.  

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #16

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I think we need another "dancing bear".  I'd take a flyer on one on the third day.  I don't trust the availability of some of these guys.  

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Just in case Vernon misses half the season again.    We'll need a 3rd/4th man to get after the QB

    Tour2maT S gumby73G 3 Replies
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I think we need another "dancing bear".  I'd take a flyer on one on the third day.  I don't trust the availability of some of these guys.  

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Just in case Vernon misses half the season again.    We'll need a 3rd/4th man to get after the QB

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #17

    @tiamat63 said:

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Took a look at him a while back... some role potential.

    Lately looking at Florida's Zuniga (broadcasters beware!) and Syracuse's Coleman.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @tiamat63 said:

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Took a look at him a while back... some role potential.

    Lately looking at Florida's Zuniga (broadcasters beware!) and Syracuse's Coleman.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #18

    @tour2ma said:

    Took a look at him a while back... some role potential.

    Lately looking at Florida's Zuniga (broadcasters beware!) and Syracuse's Coleman.

    Daphne?    Always liked her going back to A Sure Thing.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I think we need another "dancing bear".  I'd take a flyer on one on the third day.  I don't trust the availability of some of these guys.  

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Just in case Vernon misses half the season again.    We'll need a 3rd/4th man to get after the QB

    S SdBacker80 wrote on
    #19

    @tiamat63 said:

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Just in case Vernon misses half the season again.    We'll need a 3rd/4th man to get after the QB

    I just selected him in our mock draft.  He’s a Charlotte guy (same w/Ogunjobi).  Saw some tape looks like a good NFL pass rusher right now- definite 3rd down guy and a Perfect guy to sit behind A couple vets for a few years and rotate in 8-10 plays a game 

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I think we need another "dancing bear".  I'd take a flyer on one on the third day.  I don't trust the availability of some of these guys.  

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Just in case Vernon misses half the season again.    We'll need a 3rd/4th man to get after the QB

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #20

    @tiamat63 said:

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Just in case Vernon misses half the season again.    We'll need a 3rd/4th man to get after the QB

    have you checked out the motor on Notre Dame.. DE Khalid Kareem? .. Kareem has the NFL DE body type & long arms.. Once recruited by Bama & Michigan, ND played him at every tech on the DL. His stat-line improved all 3 seasons  ..lots of utube film out there on Kareem along with a Andrew Thomas stalemate in 2019...  

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @tiamat63 said:

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Just in case Vernon misses half the season again.    We'll need a 3rd/4th man to get after the QB

    have you checked out the motor on Notre Dame.. DE Khalid Kareem? .. Kareem has the NFL DE body type & long arms.. Once recruited by Bama & Michigan, ND played him at every tech on the DL. His stat-line improved all 3 seasons  ..lots of utube film out there on Kareem along with a Andrew Thomas stalemate in 2019...  

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #21

    @gumby73 said:

    have you checked out the motor on Notre Dame.. DE Khalid Kareem? .. Kareem has the NFL DE body type & long arms.. Once recruited by Bama & Michigan, ND played him at every tech on the DL. His stat-line improved all 3 seasons  ..lots of utube film out there on Kareem along with a Andrew Thomas stalemate in 2019...  

    I haven't and I have quite a bit on the docket lined up to watch.  But the good news about shit being shut down, my weekends and some weekdays are free to binge available film.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #22

    Here' the deal with Kareem... well... I was starting a post about how he and his R2 grade will be competing with positions of greater need, but then I realized if there's a pure BPA pick on our board it's our #41.

    Looked at sim results I've saved from 4 different sites... and there's a bunch... and as I learned more about this draft class the pick that evolved the most was Pick 41. It has become my net for R1 talent that was squeezed out and to us. It's where I've taken a CB, a WR knowing those two, R# picks are coming soon

    So it's a different competition for Kareem and other R2 talent at 41... BPA.

    Of course there is always a trade down possibility... far enough where the the 1st-round spillover that's of low interest to us is taken... and adding a 4th and 5th or better in the process.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • gumby73G gumby73

    @tiamat63 said:

    Alex Highsmith - an Edge I've been watching. 

    Just in case Vernon misses half the season again.    We'll need a 3rd/4th man to get after the QB

    have you checked out the motor on Notre Dame.. DE Khalid Kareem? .. Kareem has the NFL DE body type & long arms.. Once recruited by Bama & Michigan, ND played him at every tech on the DL. His stat-line improved all 3 seasons  ..lots of utube film out there on Kareem along with a Andrew Thomas stalemate in 2019...  

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #23

    @gumby73 said:

    have you checked out the motor on Notre Dame.. DE Khalid Kareem? .. Kareem has the NFL DE body type & long arms.. Once recruited by Bama & Michigan, ND played him at every tech on the DL. His stat-line improved all 3 seasons  ..lots of utube film out there on Kareem along with a Andrew Thomas stalemate in 2019...  

    Still available in our draft...and you have the 3rd next pick coming up.   We have gone through 128 picks so far, and he has not been taken.

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