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  • Measurements  -  we have to get to ONE measurement system.....so we can all be on the same freakin' page.  Does that make sense or no?

    The imperial system has bases that are all over the map.  The base 10 system makes more sense, no?

    -------- alas, we're too entrenched.  The number of speed limit signs, overhead signs telling you miles to the exit (gonna have to move 'em), all of the tools & dies in manufacturing, etc.   <sigh>

  • @the-gipper said:

    An attempt to be realistic.

    So both naive and insensitive...

    Poster fears his country may be the most damaged in the world and your reply is, too bad you didn't make your own shit...

    Sometimes you simply need to STFU, Gip... this was one of those times.

    @tour2ma said:

    So both naive and insensitive...

    Poster fears his country may be the most damaged in the world and your reply is, too bad you didn't make your own shit...

    Sometimes you simply need to STFU, Gip... this was one of those times.

    .  

    Nero said that his country could not get the equipment he needs because they could not get them imported.   I said that they should not be relying on imports.  Sorry, sometimes the truth has to be told.  And I said the same applied to this country as well....that we should strive not to rely on imports of products if we are not capable of procuring those imports.  So...its too bad for us as well that we didn't make our own shit. 

    And the fact is, this nation...the USA has like triple the number of cases of other countries...though I do think their per capita death rate is higher.   The thing is, and my point was that both nation are now suffering from a lack of foresight. 

    Maybe your preference is for Trumplike treatment of the problem:  lie and  gloss over the facts and act like Pollyana. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    The metric system was invented by the French Revolutionaries,  who would cut off your head if you didn't adhere.  Fuck that.

    And besides....the metric system gives European  McDonald's the opportunity to cheat on the size/weight of their "Royale"  burger.  Here it has to be a Quarter Pounder...and the Bureau of weights and measures holds them to that.  so fuck the metric system for that reason as well.    😛

    I'm more comfortable with the English measurements, but the metric system is far more logical, based on a 10-based system. 

    @icecube said:

    I'm more comfortable with the English measurements, but the metric system is far more logical, based on a 10-based system. 

    I am not sure it is logic...it is just simplicity.  Like I said....easier to do the math.

  • Gip...

    Until now it never occurred to add "callous" to the list of adjectives I use to describe you.

    Congratulations...

  • Gip...

    Until now it never occurred to add "callous" to the list of adjectives I use to describe you.

    Congratulations...

    @tour2ma said:

    Gip...

    Until now it never occurred to add "callous" to the list of adjectives I use to describe you.

    Congratulations...

    Its not callousness...it is honesty.  Perhaps brutal honesty.   And maybe it is hindsight.  This is something that we, and Spain, and Italy and likely many other places were not prepared for.   Should we have been prepared for it?   That is where the hindsight comes in.  At least in this country the evidence is that there were several dire warnings that were ignored which, if they were not, we would have been much better prepared.  Is that the same situation in Spain?  I don't know.    But, again, my point is that for the future....now we had damned well better be prepared for a pandemic of the future, which could even be worse than this. And the point for the future is that each country should strive to be more independent and self sufficient to deal with this sort of thing in the future.  WE, SPAIN, THE WORLD WAS NOT READY FOR THIS.

    If you don't want to face the brutal honesty of those facts, then find a hole in the sand to stick your head in.

    Plus,  I still have no idea what Nero is talking about when he says equipment that had been paid for had be "confiscated".  I will have to do google search on that. 

    OK, I have done so:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-us-accused-of-diverting-medical-equipment-from-countries-2020-4

    I had not heard of this before.  It looks like both Turkey and the US may have diverted equipment bought by Spain...and other nations.     So, OK, I am fully on  Nero's side on this.   (this was NOT the sort of thing I was talking about...I was talking about producing them domestically, not seizing those that belonged/were paid for by others)

    Of course  DJT  claims the report was false.....which only further leads to its credibility. 

  • @icecube said:

    I'm more comfortable with the English measurements, but the metric system is far more logical, based on a 10-based system. 

    I am not sure it is logic...it is just simplicity.  Like I said....easier to do the math.

    @the-gipper said:

    I am not sure it is logic...it is just simplicity.  Like I said....easier to do the math.

    Simplicity can also be more "logical." Is it not more logical to have everything based on all units of 10 as opposed to one with various configurations across the board? How many pints in a quart? How many quarts in a gallon? How many yards in a mile? How many ounces in a pound? How many pounds in a ton? No rhyme or reason. 

  • Heck, I wish CLOCKS could be base 10.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Prime Minister of England in Intensive Care......Not NFL...but a major World figure. 

    Yeah, it was scary when we heard he tested positive.  He's slightly over 70.

    @orion said:

    Yeah, it was scary when we heard he tested positive.  He's slightly over 70.

    PM of England is 55.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Gip...

    Until now it never occurred to add "callous" to the list of adjectives I use to describe you.

    Congratulations...

    Its not callousness...it is honesty.  Perhaps brutal honesty.   And maybe it is hindsight.  This is something that we, and Spain, and Italy and likely many other places were not prepared for.   Should we have been prepared for it?   That is where the hindsight comes in.  At least in this country the evidence is that there were several dire warnings that were ignored which, if they were not, we would have been much better prepared.  Is that the same situation in Spain?  I don't know.    But, again, my point is that for the future....now we had damned well better be prepared for a pandemic of the future, which could even be worse than this. And the point for the future is that each country should strive to be more independent and self sufficient to deal with this sort of thing in the future.  WE, SPAIN, THE WORLD WAS NOT READY FOR THIS.

    If you don't want to face the brutal honesty of those facts, then find a hole in the sand to stick your head in.

    Plus,  I still have no idea what Nero is talking about when he says equipment that had been paid for had be "confiscated".  I will have to do google search on that. 

    OK, I have done so:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-us-accused-of-diverting-medical-equipment-from-countries-2020-4

    I had not heard of this before.  It looks like both Turkey and the US may have diverted equipment bought by Spain...and other nations.     So, OK, I am fully on  Nero's side on this.   (this was NOT the sort of thing I was talking about...I was talking about producing them domestically, not seizing those that belonged/were paid for by others)

    Of course  DJT  claims the report was false.....which only further leads to its credibility. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Its not callousness...it is honesty.  Perhaps brutal honesty.   And maybe it is hindsight.

    **And thus with "callous" safely salted away, Gipper turns his attention to adding "obtuse" to his bio**

  • @the-gipper said:

    I am not sure it is logic...it is just simplicity.  Like I said....easier to do the math.

    Simplicity can also be more "logical." Is it not more logical to have everything based on all units of 10 as opposed to one with various configurations across the board? How many pints in a quart? How many quarts in a gallon? How many yards in a mile? How many ounces in a pound? How many pounds in a ton? No rhyme or reason. 

    @icecube said:

    Simplicity can also be more "logical." Is it not more logical to have everything based on all units of 10 as opposed to one with various configurations across the board? How many pints in a quart? How many quarts in a gallon? How many yards in a mile? How many ounces in a pound? How many pounds in a ton? No rhyme or reason. 

    Well...maybe. 

    But the fact is, if someone says that a place is X kilometers or X meters.  away....we still say:  well, how far is that really....you know, in miles.

    And if they say something weighs X kilograms...we will say:  "well, how much does it weigh really...in pounds.  Or ounces. 

    So, as I said, our time system is just as "illogical"....so why are we not on metric time. 

  • @nero said:

    Realistic means admitting that every country including yours depends on imports thus confiscating them after they have been paid is fair play? Get the flag out of your mouth, it doesn't let oxygen into your brain. 

    Who said a word about confiscating  products after they have been paid for?  

    I know that countries rely on imports to a great extent.   I said that nations, your and ours, should strive to be more self sufficient, so as to not rely so heavily on imports.  That they should try to manufacture more of their own products to use for themselves so that they can be more independent when necessary.    I said fuck all about confiscating imports.    Where the hell did you come up with that?  Is that something that is happening?  It is nothing I have ever heard anything about.  

    "Bringing manufacturing base home"  means having those factories located in the cities and states of this nation.  (or, in your case, your nation).  

    I have no clue how you got that all FUBARed. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Who said a word about confiscating  products after they have been paid for?

    Get the shit out of your eyes and brain and properly read what I said. 

    Nero did.

    Oh the irony.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Who said a word about confiscating  products after they have been paid for?

    Get the shit out of your eyes and brain and properly read what I said. 

    Nero did.

    Oh the irony.

    @claretbrown said:

    Nero did.

    Oh the irony.

    I know Nero said it.....I was referring to  what I was talking about:   the lack of preparedness, and the need to be better prepared in the future. 

    I don't know that the UK  was any better prepared than the US or Spain....so this shit may just be starting for you all.   Be safe.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Clearly  YOU are the one that is obtuse.  Along clearly with being ignorant of what the actual situation is and was. 

    You provide absolutely no context for your snarky remarks.  You are as shallow as the baby pool in the park. 

    Again,  sorry if you can't handle the truth. 

    Care to put it to a vote in a poll?  Loser leaves is banned from the boards until after the Draft?

  • @nickers said:

    A lady friend of mine who lives in Tenerife says the lockdown is pretty strict over there...

    Yes it has been since March 15th. Some people like me started the quarantine 4-5 days earlier. 

    Spain may end up being the most damaged country in the world if we don't stop the trend, thanks to a very old population and stupid politicians. 

    Health masks and ventilators coming to our country (and already paid) have been confiscated in Turkey and USA, which doesn't help the matter either. 

    Just gathering the evidence for the poll in case Gip has any balls...

    @nero said:

    Yes it has been since March 15th. Some people like me started the quarantine 4-5 days earlier. 

    Spain may end up being the most damaged country in the world if we don't stop the trend, thanks to a very old population and stupid politicians. 

    Health masks and ventilators coming to our country (and already paid) have been confiscated in Turkey and USA, which doesn't help the matter either. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, you should do what we should have been doing.....making your own.  Instead of relying on imports. 

    @tour2ma said:

    😳 Naive or insensitive?

    @the-gipper said:

    An attempt to be realistic.    As much as I know that we live in an interdependent world....still, it is a case where, as a result of this, nation's should strive to be self sufficient in as many areas as they can. 

    We have strived for that with the oil dependency situation...to some degree of success.  One of the reasons that the US is getting the worst end of this business is because we did not produce the materials and equipment here at time in sufficient quantities as something like this required. 

    We should strive to bring much of our manufacturing base home....instead of having so much produced in China/Mexico etc.....just so that  corporate CEOs can rake in  1000 more times in salary than the average employee of those companies make.  This highlights that necessity, in my opinion. 

    @nero said:

    Realistic means admitting that every country including yours depends on imports thus confiscating them after they have been paid is fair play? Get the flag out of your mouth, it doesn't let oxygen into your brain. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Who said a word about confiscating  products after they have been paid for?  Get the shit out of your eyes and brain and properly read what I said. Don't let your   whatever it is you are suffering from  disallow you from having proper reading comprehension. 

    I know that countries rely on imports to a great extent.   I said that nations, your and ours, should strive to be more self sufficient, so as to not rely so heavily on imports.  That they should try to manufacture more of their own products to use for themselves so that they can be more independent when necessary.    I said fuck all about confiscating imports.    Where the hell did you come up with that?  Is that something that is happening?  It is nothing I have ever heard anything about.  

    "Bringing manufacturing base home"  means having those factories located in the cities and states of this nation.  (or, in your case, your nation).  

    I have no clue how you got that all FUBARed. 

    @tour2ma said:

    So both naive and insensitive...

    Poster fears his country may be the most damaged in the world and your reply is, too bad you didn't make your own shit...

    Sometimes you simply need to STFU, Gip... this was one of those times.

    @the-gipper said:

    Sorry if you are too ignorant  and lacking in  perception to comprehend a  proper and perhaps blunt  political/economic/historical conversation.  

    Nero said that his country could not get the equipment he needs because they could not get them imported.   I said that they should not be relying on imports.  Sorry, sometimes the truth has to be told.  And I said the same applied to this country as well....that we should strive not to rely on imports of products if we are not capable of procuring those imports.  So...its too bad for us as well that we didn't make our own shit. 

    And the fact is, this nation...the USA has like triple the number of cases of other countries...though I do think their per capita death rate is higher.   The thing is, and my point was that both nation are now suffering from a lack of foresight. 

    Maybe your preference is for Trumplike treatment of the problem:  lie and  gloss over the facts and act like Pollyana. 

    @tour2ma said:

    Gip...

    Until now it never occurred to add "callous" to the list of adjectives I use to describe you.

    Congratulations...

    @the-gipper said:

    Its not callousness...it is honesty.  Perhaps brutal honesty.   And maybe it is hindsight.  This is something that we, and Spain, and Italy and likely many other places were not prepared for.   Should we have been prepared for it?   That is where the hindsight comes in.  At least in this country the evidence is that there were several dire warnings that were ignored which, if they were not, we would have been much better prepared.  Is that the same situation in Spain?  I don't know.    But, again, my point is that for the future....now we had damned well better be prepared for a pandemic of the future, which could even be worse than this. And the point for the future is that each country should strive to be more independent and self sufficient to deal with this sort of thing in the future.  WE, SPAIN, THE WORLD WAS NOT READY FOR THIS.

    If you don't want to face the brutal honesty of those facts, then find a hole in the sand to stick your head in.

    Plus,  I still have no idea what Nero is talking about when he says equipment that had been paid for had be "confiscated".  I will have to do google search on that. 

    OK, I have done so:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-us-accused-of-diverting-medical-equipment-from-countries-2020-4

    I had not heard of this before.  It looks like both Turkey and the US may have diverted equipment bought by Spain...and other nations.     So, OK, I am fully on  Nero's side on this.   (this was NOT the sort of thing I was talking about...I was talking about producing them domestically, not seizing those that belonged/were paid for by others)

    Of course  DJT  claims the report was false.....which only further leads to its credibility. 

    @tour2ma said:

    **And thus with "callous" safely salted away, Gipper turns his attention to adding "obtuse" to his bio**

    @the-gipper said:

    Clearly  YOU are the one that is obtuse.  Along clearly with being ignorant of what the actual situation is and was. 

    You provide absolutely no context for your snarky remarks.  You are as shallow as the baby pool in the park. 

    Again,  sorry if you can't handle the truth. 

  • Sigh... 

    Will someone give Gip a puppy or something to keep him occupied so he doesn't feel the need to turn every thread into THE GIPPER HOUR? 

  • Sigh... 

    Will someone give Gip a puppy or something to keep him occupied so he doesn't feel the need to turn every thread into THE GIPPER HOUR? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Sigh... 

    Will someone give Gip a puppy or something to keep him occupied so he doesn't feel the need to turn every thread into THE GIPPER HOUR? 

    What do you have against puppies ?    😮

  • Sigh... 

    Will someone give Gip a puppy or something to keep him occupied so he doesn't feel the need to turn every thread into THE GIPPER HOUR? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Sigh... 

    Will someone give Gip a puppy or something to keep him occupied so he doesn't feel the need to turn every thread into THE GIPPER HOUR? 

    You clearly have paid NO attention.....it is the other guy here that is doing that.  I was trying to have a conversation with Nero on the coronavirus issue and the national responses thereto.........and then Tour intervened with his total obsessive snark  over me.    Without adding a single substantive word to the matter.   What do you call that post where he quotes me like 6 times?     And where he quoted himself 6 times.  I think the only reason you remember my posts is simply because they are more substantive...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Sigh... 

    Will someone give Gip a puppy or something to keep him occupied so he doesn't feel the need to turn every thread into THE GIPPER HOUR? 

    What do you have against puppies ?    😮

    @mjp28 said:

    What do you have against puppies ?    😮

    LMAO... Laugh of the day!

    Comedy in the age of Coronavirus...

    Ever since Berry stole his sense of humor... I always thought Dutch might make a helluva straight man.

    Also Gip's lack of balls are duly noted...

  • @mjp28 said:

    What do you have against puppies ?    😮

    LMAO... Laugh of the day!

    Comedy in the age of Coronavirus...

    Ever since Berry stole his sense of humor... I always thought Dutch might make a helluva straight man.

    Also Gip's lack of balls are duly noted...

    @tour2ma said:

    LMAO... Laugh of the day!

    I always thought Dutch might make a helluva straight man...

    Also Gip's lack of balls are duly noted...

    Yea, right......says the Craven King. 

    again...since you love to quote yourself, show us where you made one single substantive contribution to the discussion? All you have done here is to snark on me.  100% of you is that. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    LMAO... Laugh of the day!

    I always thought Dutch might make a helluva straight man...

    Also Gip's lack of balls are duly noted...

    Yea, right......says the Craven King. 

    again...since you love to quote yourself, show us where you made one single substantive contribution to the discussion? All you have done here is to snark on me.  100% of you is that. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, right......says the Craven King. 

    So it's a bet?