Stallworth Suspended for Season
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Wow, that bitch is CRAZY!
Hey dog, your accepting every fricken word as gospel from a puker? (nara- fleets enema) You may want to get along with everybody, but your wishy washy and
agree with everbody when ever they reply no matter who they are or what they say. Get it together!
Hey dog, your accepting every fricken word as gospel from a puker? You may want to get along with everybody, but your wishy washy and
agree with everbody when ever they reply no matter who they are or what say. Get it together!
Hey, I didn't know about the facts, until Natrefleet mentioned them to me. You don't have be an ass, brownshirt.
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Hey dog, your accepting every fricken word as gospel from a puker? You may want to get along with everybody, but your wishy washy and
agree with everbody when ever they reply no matter who they are or what say. Get it together!
Hey, I didn't know about the facts, until Natrefleet mentioned them to me. You don't have be an ass, brownshirt.
Hey, I didn't know about the facts, until Natrefleet mentioned them to me. You don't have be an ass, brownshirt.
Yes I'm an ass but your an asshole. Welcome to my growing ignore list filled with Stooler pukes, and people to stupid to have an opinion
so they suck up to everybody that does unless they get called on it.
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Amazing how your fan base can so readily forgive a man who killed another by operating a vehicle drunk (a violation that in some states is 2nd Degree Murder)---and was convicted of this crime in a court of law.....
But you're all over Ben for a rape allegation that has no criminal charges and is decidedly about only extorting money.
Hypocrites.
The simple difference is that Stallworth didn't intend his action. If in fact BR did commit rape, and I make no judgment on that, it would have to be considered a purposeful act.
The justice system did its thing in the Stallworth case, (and in the Vick case).
I do see a bit of a contradictory situation here though....with Vick, after he completes his government imposed punishment for his action, he is immediately reinstated. With Stallworth, after he completed his government imposed punishment he is suspended now apparently for a full additional year. (Should it matter that Vick got 2 years in jail and Stallworth only 1 month? Apparently it did)
The justice system, criminal or civil, will still have its say in the BR case.
If he is found "responsible" in that matter in civil court, should he or should he not suffer some NFL imposed penalty, as these others have?
The simple difference is that Stallworth didn't intend his action. If in fact BR did commit rape, and I make no judgment on that, it would have to be considered a purposeful act.
The justice system did its thing in the Stallworth case, (and in the Vick case).
I do see a bit of a contradictory situation here though....with Vick, after he completes his government imposed punishment for his action, he is immediately reinstated. With Stallworth, after he completed his government imposed punishment he is suspended now apparently for a full additional year. (Should it matter that Vick got 2 years in jail and Stallworth only 1 month? Apparently it did)
The justice system, criminal or civil, will still have its say in the BR case.
If he is found "responsible" in that matter in civil court, should he or should he not suffer some NFL imposed penalty, as these others have
?Its really not all that contradictory at this point. Stallworth is still serving his 2-years house arrest so at least the commish has gone from indefinite to 1-year now, whereas the prior rumors were that he may not have even decided until Stallworth's house arrest was over.
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Only for the first 6 or 7 games (which I will admit he lit it up), but he was oft injured there as well. He did squat for the Patriots.
It was 12 games for PHI. His last to in NO were also good, in which he played 16 games in both.
I'd hardly call 46 catches, 697 yards, and 3 TDs doing squat for NE. Considering balls had to be shared between him, Moss, and Welker
But yeah, he does get hurt a bit too much and has never lived up to his 1st round drafting.
Masters said:
It was 12 games for PHI. His last to in NO were also good, in which he played 16 games in both.I'd hardly call 46 catches, 697 yards, and 3 TDs doing squat for NE. Considering balls had to be shared between him, Moss, and Welker
But yeah, he does get hurt a bit too much and has never lived up to his 1st round drafting.
I'm not a stats junkie, but 7 seasons and he only broke the 800 yd mark 1 time (never had a 1000 yd season). He's a wash out. He's showed talent at times, but 697 for the patriots is nothing to brag about. His wrap: always hurt and drops passes. He's fast, but not a great route runner. We have more talent out of the 2nd rounders and Hubbard so I say dump him.
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Hey, I didn't know about the facts, until Natrefleet mentioned them to me. You don't have be an ass, brownshirt.
Yes I'm an ass but your an asshole. Welcome to my growing ignore list filled with Stooler pukes, and people to stupid to have an opinion
so they suck up to everybody that does unless they get called on it.
Yes I'm an ass but your an asshole. Welcome to my growing ignore list filled with Stooler pukes, and people to stupid to have an opinion
so they suck up to everybody that does unless they get called on it.
I suck up to everybody? Wow. You are a real xxxxing dickhead, man. GTFO off the boards. You are as bad as the Stooler pukes.
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Hey, I didn't know about the facts, until Natrefleet mentioned them to me. You don't have be an ass, brownshirt.
Yes I'm an ass but your an asshole. Welcome to my growing ignore list filled with Stooler pukes, and people to stupid to have an opinion
so they suck up to everybody that does unless they get called on it.
Yes I'm an ass but your an asshole. Welcome to my growing ignore list filled with Stooler pukes, and people to stupid to have an opinion
so they suck up to everybody that does unless they get called on it.
You don't like his opinion then don't xxxxing respond to it. You are talking to BROWNS fans here. Most of us ignore the stooler tools anyways. You seem real bad behind that computer because you're probably not happy with yourself in real life. Get over yourself, be a man, and don't respond if you don't like it.
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Yes I'm an ass but your an asshole. Welcome to my growing ignore list filled with Stooler pukes, and people to stupid to have an opinion
so they suck up to everybody that does unless they get called on it.
You don't like his opinion then don't xxxxing respond to it. You are talking to BROWNS fans here. Most of us ignore the stooler tools anyways. You seem real bad behind that computer because you're probably not happy with yourself in real life. Get over yourself, be a man, and don't respond if you don't like it.
You don't like his opinion then don't xxxxing respond to it. You are talking to BROWNS fans here. Most of us ignore the stooler tools anyways. You seem real bad behind that computer because you're probably not happy with yourself in real life. Get over yourself, be a man, and don't respond if you don't like it.
well, im not a steeler troll
Im a die hard browns fan -
Masters said:
It was 12 games for PHI. His last to in NO were also good, in which he played 16 games in both.I'd hardly call 46 catches, 697 yards, and 3 TDs doing squat for NE. Considering balls had to be shared between him, Moss, and Welker
But yeah, he does get hurt a bit too much and has never lived up to his 1st round drafting.
I'm not a stats junkie, but 7 seasons and he only broke the 800 yd mark 1 time (never had a 1000 yd season). He's a wash out. He's showed talent at times, but 697 for the patriots is nothing to brag about. His wrap: always hurt and drops passes. He's fast, but not a great route runner. We have more talent out of the 2nd rounders and Hubbard so I say dump him.
I'm not a stats junkie, but 7 seasons and he only broke the 800 yd mark 1 time (never had a 1000 yd season). He's a wash out. He's showed talent at times, but 697 for the patriots is nothing to brag about. His wrap: always hurt and drops passes. He's fast, but not a great route runner. We have more talent out of the 2nd rounders and Hubbard so I say dump him.
He's not a #1 WR. Not many cats that aren't the #1 guy on his team get 1,000 yards in a season.
I am at a lack of words for calling the guy a wash out. If the production he's had, aside from last year here in CLE, make him a wash out, then I guess just about every team in the NFL should cut their #2 WR. That 697 was on 46 catches. 27 of those were for first downs, and that is a 7.2AC average. All that happening while Welker is hauling in 112 for 1100+ yards and Moss hauling in 98 for 1,500 yards. Stalworths numbers in NE were good and something to brag about, when you look at the big picture.
Did you really just but Hubbard in their as better talent? I defend Hubbard, in that he is still learning the WR position, but he ain't even sniffing Donte's jock.
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That is all this creme puff needs - a year off.
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Amazing how your fan base can so readily forgive a man who killed another by operating a vehicle drunk (a violation that in some states is 2nd Degree Murder)---and was convicted of this crime in a court of law.....
But you're all over Ben for a rape allegation that has no criminal charges and is decidedly about only extorting money.
Hypocrites.
The simple difference is that Stallworth didn't intend his action. If in fact BR did commit rape, and I make no judgment on that, it would have to be considered a purposeful act.
The justice system did its thing in the Stallworth case, (and in the Vick case).
I do see a bit of a contradictory situation here though....with Vick, after he completes his government imposed punishment for his action, he is immediately reinstated. With Stallworth, after he completed his government imposed punishment he is suspended now apparently for a full additional year. (Should it matter that Vick got 2 years in jail and Stallworth only 1 month? Apparently it did)
The justice system, criminal or civil, will still have its say in the BR case.
If he is found "responsible" in that matter in civil court, should he or should he not suffer some NFL imposed penalty, as these others have?
I do see a bit of a contradictory situation here though....with Vick, after he completes his government imposed punishment for his action, he is immediately reinstated. With Stallworth, after he completed his government imposed punishment he is suspended now apparently for a full additional year. (Should it matter that Vick got 2 years in jail and Stallworth only 1 month? Apparently it did)
Not really the case though. Vick is off of House arrest where as Stalworth isn't yet. I was suprised it wasn't for two years (the length of "house arrest") to be completely honest.
As for Ben I am not rushing to make a statement. I think we are to quick to believe things we hear sometimes so I am just taking it all in.
Edit -didnt see someone else basically said same thing.
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Again - I feel bad that the NFL has come down with a full year. The guy has owned up to it and hasn't backed away from any criticism. The difference of one year to a football player is HUGE when compared to a normal Joe getting a year off without pay. Granted, he has enough to retire on now, but it's still a harsh punishment. Hell, it's a much more severe hit than what even the legal system doled out. Brutal.
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You don't like his opinion then don't xxxxing respond to it. You are talking to BROWNS fans here. Most of us ignore the stooler tools anyways. You seem real bad behind that computer because you're probably not happy with yourself in real life. Get over yourself, be a man, and don't respond if you don't like it.
well, im not a steeler troll
Im a die hard browns fanwell, im not a steeler troll
Im a die hard browns fanI know this. You must've mistaken what I wrote.
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The NFL doesn't want Stallworth, he probably doesn't have the common sense to retire.
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Amazing how your fan base can so readily forgive a man who killed another by operating a vehicle drunk (a violation that in some states is 2nd Degree Murder)---and was convicted of this crime in a court of law.....
But you're all over Ben for a rape allegation that has no criminal charges and is decidedly about only extorting money.
Hypocrites.
The simple difference is that Stallworth didn't intend his action. If in fact BR did commit rape, and I make no judgment on that, it would have to be considered a purposeful act.
The justice system did its thing in the Stallworth case, (and in the Vick case).
I do see a bit of a contradictory situation here though....with Vick, after he completes his government imposed punishment for his action, he is immediately reinstated. With Stallworth, after he completed his government imposed punishment he is suspended now apparently for a full additional year. (Should it matter that Vick got 2 years in jail and Stallworth only 1 month? Apparently it did)
The justice system, criminal or civil, will still have its say in the BR case.
If he is found "responsible" in that matter in civil court, should he or should he not suffer some NFL imposed penalty, as these others have?
The simple difference is that Stallworth didn't intend his action. If in fact BR did commit rape, and I make no judgment on that, it would have to be considered a purposeful act.
The justice system did its thing in the Stallworth case, (and in the Vick case).
I do see a bit of a contradictory situation here though....with Vick, after he completes his government imposed punishment for his action, he is immediately reinstated. With Stallworth, after he completed his government imposed punishment he is suspended now apparently for a full additional year. (Should it matter that Vick got 2 years in jail and Stallworth only 1 month? Apparently it did)
The justice system, criminal or civil, will still have its say in the BR case.
If he is found "responsible" in that matter in civil court, should he or should he not suffer some NFL imposed penalty, as these others have
?actually, I feel the disparity in the ruling by Goodell has to do with one thing, and one thing only.
Someone died.
If Stallworth had been sober, the guy might still have died.
But on the other side of the coin, if Stallworth hadn't been driving at all, the guy might still be alive.
Regardless... I expected Goodell to come down hard because someone died. Pure and simple.
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Zombo said:
I think it's fair and I'm glad we won't be paying him for another wasted year.I hope he comes back strong next year, he seems like a good dude who took immediate and genuine responsibility for his actions.
Good luck in 2010, Donte...
Zombo
Amazing how your fan base can so readily forgive a man who killed another by operating a vehicle drunk (a violation that in some states is 2nd Degree Murder)---and was convicted of this crime in a court of law.....
But you're all over Ben for a rape allegation that has no criminal charges and is decidedly about only extorting money.
Hypocrites.
Amazing how your fan base can so readily forgive a man who killed another by operating a vehicle drunk (a violation that in some states is 2nd Degree Murder)---and was convicted of this crime in a court of law.....
But you're all over Ben for a rape allegation that has no criminal charges and is decidedly about only extorting money.
Hypocrites.
Don't paint every Browns Fan with the same brush Squealer. FWIW, I think Stalworthless got off amazingly light. Might just be me- I have no love for dogs- but Vick should have gotten the 24 days, and Stallworth the 19 months- or more, like an average drunk would have gotten.
Yup, and now his "house arrest" allows him to go and work out at the gym 5 times a week? Damn rough if you ask me. Maybe they can set up a Bowflex in the bar he was at before he took the guy out.
PS. Now that you know how I feel about a guy that should have done 5 years for vehicular homicide, let me tell you how I feel about your precious Ben. There's documented photos of the guy shit-faced in bars. Rule #1 don't bang a chick you don't know when drunk off your ass if you're rich & famous- it can have repercussions. Same problem- lapse in judgment when booze was involved.
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Stallworth is probaly not too upset with this decision by the NFL, he can now start to put things back together in his life.
Football i'm sure would help but he has closure in knowing his punishment and has said he will abide by all rulings.
The bulk of the suspension is for substance abuse, not his first positive test.
Even though he could physically play i think mentally a year off should give him time to get his mind 'right'. His whole life he's been a user and that way of thinking doesn't go away overnight just because you served 24 days in jail.
Browns won't be waiting with open arms for him and they shouldn't, they got there own problems to deal with.
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Amazing how your fan base can so readily forgive a man who killed another by operating a vehicle drunk (a violation that in some states is 2nd Degree Murder)---and was convicted of this crime in a court of law.....
But you're all over Ben for a rape allegation that has no criminal charges and is decidedly about only extorting money.
Hypocrites.
Don't paint every Browns Fan with the same brush Squealer. FWIW, I think Stalworthless got off amazingly light. Might just be me- I have no love for dogs- but Vick should have gotten the 24 days, and Stallworth the 19 months- or more, like an average drunk would have gotten.
Yup, and now his "house arrest" allows him to go and work out at the gym 5 times a week? Damn rough if you ask me. Maybe they can set up a Bowflex in the bar he was at before he took the guy out.
PS. Now that you know how I feel about a guy that should have done 5 years for vehicular homicide, let me tell you how I feel about your precious Ben. There's documented photos of the guy shit-faced in bars. Rule #1 don't bang a chick you don't know when drunk off your ass if you're rich & famous- it can have repercussions. Same problem- lapse in judgment when booze was involved.
Don't paint every Browns Fan with the same brush Squealer. FWIW, I think Stalworthless got off amazingly light. Might just be me- I have no love for dogs- but Vick should have gotten the 24 days, and Stallworth the 19 months- or more, like an average drunk would have gotten.
Yup, and now his "house arrest" allows him to go and work out at the gym 5 times a week? Damn rough if you ask me. Maybe they can set up a Bowflex in the bar he was at before he took the guy out.
PS. Now that you know how I feel about a guy that should have done 5 years for vehicular homicide, let me tell you how I feel about your precious Ben. There's documented photos of the guy shit-faced in bars. Rule #1 don't bang a chick you don't know when drunk off your ass if you're rich & famous- it can have repercussions. Same problem- lapse in judgment when booze was involved.
Two things....
1) the courts took into consideration ALL evidence for Stallworth, including the alleged video showing Reyes' actions prior to the ACCIDENT.
2) Vick INTENTIONALLY killed dogs in many heinous ways for YEARS, lied to everyone, didn't own up to it until people turned on him. Oh, and FYI, his 23 months were for breaking FEDERAL LAWS involving interstate GAMBLING, not for killing the dogs.
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I'm not a stats junkie, but 7 seasons and he only broke the 800 yd mark 1 time (never had a 1000 yd season). He's a wash out. He's showed talent at times, but 697 for the patriots is nothing to brag about. His wrap: always hurt and drops passes. He's fast, but not a great route runner. We have more talent out of the 2nd rounders and Hubbard so I say dump him.
He's not a #1 WR. Not many cats that aren't the #1 guy on his team get 1,000 yards in a season.
I am at a lack of words for calling the guy a wash out. If the production he's had, aside from last year here in CLE, make him a wash out, then I guess just about every team in the NFL should cut their #2 WR. That 697 was on 46 catches. 27 of those were for first downs, and that is a 7.2AC average. All that happening while Welker is hauling in 112 for 1100+ yards and Moss hauling in 98 for 1,500 yards. Stalworths numbers in NE were good and something to brag about, when you look at the big picture.
Did you really just but Hubbard in their as better talent? I defend Hubbard, in that he is still learning the WR position, but he ain't even sniffing Donte's jock.
Masters said:
He's not a #1 WR. Not many cats that aren't the #1 guy on his team get 1,000 yards in a season.I am at a lack of words for calling the guy a wash out. If the production he's had, aside from last year here in CLE, make him a wash out, then I guess just about every team in the NFL should cut their #2 WR. That 697 was on 46 catches. 27 of those were for first downs, and that is a 7.2AC average. All that happening while Welker is hauling in 112 for 1100+ yards and Moss hauling in 98 for 1,500 yards. Stalworths numbers in NE were good and something to brag about, when you look at the big picture.
Did you really just but Hubbard in their as better talent? I defend Hubbard, in that he is still learning the WR position, but he ain't even sniffing Donte's jock.
Just saying that we have 3 young receivers that have shown more promise than a guy that has been touted as a #1 reciever on 2 other teams and a #2 on the patriots. Stallworth has been a financial pit in that he has been paid alot money for a few mediocre games. The guy is a PR nightmare at this point BECAUSE HE KILLED A MAN WHILE DRIVING DRUNK, so why keep him? Can you honestly give me one solid reason why the Browns should hang on to him at this point? This team has enough issues without having a second rate receiver putting that stink on the organization. He's ok, but he's not really that good and definitely not woth all this crap. Just sayin.
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Masters said:
He's not a #1 WR. Not many cats that aren't the #1 guy on his team get 1,000 yards in a season.I am at a lack of words for calling the guy a wash out. If the production he's had, aside from last year here in CLE, make him a wash out, then I guess just about every team in the NFL should cut their #2 WR. That 697 was on 46 catches. 27 of those were for first downs, and that is a 7.2AC average. All that happening while Welker is hauling in 112 for 1100+ yards and Moss hauling in 98 for 1,500 yards. Stalworths numbers in NE were good and something to brag about, when you look at the big picture.
Did you really just but Hubbard in their as better talent? I defend Hubbard, in that he is still learning the WR position, but he ain't even sniffing Donte's jock.
Just saying that we have 3 young receivers that have shown more promise than a guy that has been touted as a #1 reciever on 2 other teams and a #2 on the patriots. Stallworth has been a financial pit in that he has been paid alot money for a few mediocre games. The guy is a PR nightmare at this point BECAUSE HE KILLED A MAN WHILE DRIVING DRUNK, so why keep him? Can you honestly give me one solid reason why the Browns should hang on to him at this point? This team has enough issues without having a second rate receiver putting that stink on the organization. He's ok, but he's not really that good and definitely not woth all this crap. Just sayin.
Just saying that we have 3 young receivers that have shown more promise than a guy that has been touted as a #1 reciever on 2 other teams and a #2 on the patriots. Stallworth has been a financial pit in that he has been paid alot money for a few mediocre games. The guy is a PR nightmare at this point BECAUSE HE KILLED A MAN WHILE DRIVING DRUNK, so why keep him? Can you honestly give me one solid reason why the Browns should hang on to him at this point? This team has enough issues without having a second rate receiver putting that stink on the organization. He's ok, but he's not really that good and definitely not woth all this crap. Just sayin.
I have never said CLE should keep him. I simply disputed the swipes you have taken at his skills and what he has accomplished in the NFL. Defending what the guy has done on the field for his career doesn't equal me wanting him to be playing for the Browns this year.
It is a stretch to say CLE has 3 young receivers that have shwon more promise than Stallworth. Not one of those 3 has played a meaning full down in the NFL. They havent' show anything yet.
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