Good idea? Maybe Browns trade down with Atlanta?
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YES!!! Especially if the end game could be a a guy like Josh Jones
They were rumored to be after a QB Just a few days ago.
6 spots in the first round for a player they covet??? Make them pay ALOT
I love our spot. I have feeling we get a Tua slide or A team really wanting Love and moving ahead of a few teams just behind us that could take a QB.
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There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.
But....tell us how, with your trade scenarios, the Browns come out if it with both a top notch LT and a top notch LB....either Queen or Murray
I have seen Jones rated anywhere from mid 1st to late 2d round.
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I'm more in favor of trading up than trading back. We HAVE to land starting LT and everybody knows it. I doubt Thomas is there at 10 regardless of what the experts say. Hes a proven LT and I bet hes the first one off the board. If he isn't doesnt land in striking distance than I would probably stand pat at 10 and take Jones. No reason to get cute.
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Atlanta sits at 16. If Thomas and Simmons were both gone by 10... I'd seriously think about trading down absolutely.
The trouble is, Jones could be gone...
but it's a draft deep in OT's. So, if there is a second tier guy you really believe in, why not?
If indeed, Ruggs is in that high a demand - we won't draft a wr in the first (I'm pretty sure)...
the extra picks would come in handy, especially with this staff - who I believe will rock every one of their picks.
https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/atlanta-falcons-potential-trade-partner-for-cleveland-browns
So, if there is a second tier guy you really believe in, why not?
Hello.... is this thing on?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.
But....tell us how, with your trade scenarios, the Browns come out if it with both a top notch LT and a top notch LB....either Queen or Murray
I have seen Jones rated anywhere from mid 1st to late 2d round.
There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.
Fuck your useless thread and for God's sake... learn how to change the size of the images you copy into your posts.
At least fuckin' DraftTek didn't have a fuckin' photo of the fuckin #395th player in the fucking draft...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.
But....tell us how, with your trade scenarios, the Browns come out if it with both a top notch LT and a top notch LB....either Queen or Murray
I have seen Jones rated anywhere from mid 1st to late 2d round.
There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.
But....tell us how, with your trade scenarios, the Browns come out if it with both a top notch LT and a top notch LB....either Queen or Murray
I have seen Jones rated anywhere from mid 1st to late 2d round.
It's ""easy" lol.
Trade down, get Jones, or trade down again, and reach on a LT.
Then, "with 2 picks in round 2".... you nab either Tiam's Jeremy Chinn, or Kyle Dugger with one pick, and either another OT, or...
you draft one of the top wr's available.
In round three (three picks in round 3 >???), I really, really like Logan Wilson, LB.
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There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.
Fuck your useless thread and for God's sake... learn how to change the size of the images you copy into your posts.
At least fuckin' DraftTek didn't have a fuckin' photo of the fuckin #395th player in the fucking draft...
Fuck your useless thread and for God's sake... learn how to change the size of the images you copy into your posts.
At least fuckin' DraftTek didn't have a fuckin' photo of the fuckin #395th player in the fucking draft...
Do you really want to fuck my thread, i.e. insert your penis into it until you ejaculate? You do know that that is the definition of the word "Fuck". (its a common retort I make when people say "fuck you". I ask if they seriously want to have sexual intercourse with me, right then, right there....it ires them)
And why do you care how much space that post took up here? Are you paying extra for how much you have to look at? (Besides, actually, when I copied it, that text was a very manageable size...but when it pasted, it came out huge like that.
So, just consider that I did this to aid the visually impaired.
And I edited it to include just those in the Top 150 prospects to make it more manageable.
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Hello.... is this thing on?
LOL. You're right - Peart is very intriguing - but we need a starter that has the strength - not sure Peart is enough of a weight room guy yet.
I like Ben Bartch better - he's meaner, loves the game - he's getting more and more attention:
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/kyle-dugger-and-ben-bartch-help-boost-their-2020-nfl-draft-stock/
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There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.
But....tell us how, with your trade scenarios, the Browns come out if it with both a top notch LT and a top notch LB....either Queen or Murray
I have seen Jones rated anywhere from mid 1st to late 2d round.
It's ""easy" lol.
Trade down, get Jones, or trade down again, and reach on a LT.
Then, "with 2 picks in round 2".... you nab either Tiam's Jeremy Chinn, or Kyle Dugger with one pick, and either another OT, or...
you draft one of the top wr's available.
In round three (three picks in round 3 >???), I really, really like Logan Wilson, LB.
It's ""easy" lol.
Trade down, get Jones, or trade down again, and reach on a LT.
Then, "with 2 picks in round 2".... you nab either Tiam's Jeremy Chinn, or Kyle Dugger with one pick, and either another OT, or...
you draft one of the top wr's available.
In round three (three picks in round 3 >???), I really, really like Logan Wilson, LB.
Well, apparently it isn't that easy because you didn't suggest something that would achieve what I asked: to get a top notch LT and either Murray or Queen.
And note that Draftek has Jones as only the 48th best overall prospect, ergo, perhaps he would be there when we draft at #41. So, somehow maybe we take one of the LBs in round one, and Jones in round 2. So...taking Jones in round one, per them....would indeed be "reaching" on a LT.
Further.....Draftek also has both Antoine Winfield and Ashtyn Davis rated higher than either Dugger or Chinn. So, maybe they would be better choices at safety in round 2.
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A trade down and drafting an OT like Austin Jackson seems like a good option if nobody on the board at #10 has great enough value.
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I say draft lamb and then trade him to raiders for two of their 1st rounders this year.
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A trade down and drafting an OT like Austin Jackson seems like a good option if nobody on the board at #10 has great enough value.
A trade down and drafting an OT like Austin Jackson seems like a good option if nobody on the board at #10 has great enough value.
And who, do you propose, who that person would be, not a tackle? Someone that has dropped a far way? Okudah? Simmons? That I could see.
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If a trade down doesn't involve fleecing ATL then either Josh Jones or Matt Peart (as of typing this) then I don't want it.
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I say draft lamb and then trade him to raiders for two of their 1st rounders this year.
Why would they trade picks #12 and #19 for the #10 pick? I mean, I would do that, absolutely.....but I don't think the draft value charts would support that trade.
Unless, maybe, we threw them back #41? Even then I doubt it works in either the Jimmy Johnson or Harvard charts.
Under the Jimmy Chart.......if we gave them #10....1300 pts # 41 490 pts, and #74 220 pts Total 2010 For #12 1200 and #19 875...total 2075...
we would still be 65 pts short....which means we would also have to give them #115...64 pts.
So, would you do that:
#10 + #41 + #74 + #115......FOR
#12 and #19?
I think it would take some serious thought. (of course, that would require using the out of favor JJ approach.)
That deal, would be much worse for the Browns using the Harvard chart. Without listing all the values....that trade would be the Browns giving up 661.9 vs. receiving back 528.2. NYET
Under the Harvard Chart.....a more workable situation would be trading #10, #41 and #115 (keeping #74)
That would be trading 543.5 pts for 528.2
THAT could get us a LT we need, plus either Murray or Queen.
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A trade down and drafting an OT like Austin Jackson seems like a good option if nobody on the board at #10 has great enough value.
And who, do you propose, who that person would be, not a tackle? Someone that has dropped a far way? Okudah? Simmons? That I could see.
And who, do you propose, who that person would be, not a tackle? Someone that has dropped a far way? Okudah? Simmons? That I could see.
I’m not sure who will drop. But having the opportunity to draft Derrick Brown would be nice. Andrew Thomas is Worth it at 10.
It should cost at least a 2nd to trade back 5 spots to Denver, who is looking for a WR -
Hello.... is this thing on?
LOL. You're right - Peart is very intriguing - but we need a starter that has the strength - not sure Peart is enough of a weight room guy yet.
I like Ben Bartch better - he's meaner, loves the game - he's getting more and more attention:
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/kyle-dugger-and-ben-bartch-help-boost-their-2020-nfl-draft-stock/
Derrick Brown? A slower, less agile version of Danny Sheldon... no thanks...
LOL. You're right - Peart is very intriguing - but we need a starter that has the strength - not sure Peart is enough of a weight room guy yet.
I like Ben Bartch better - he's meaner, loves the game - he's getting more and more attention:
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/kyle-dugger-and-ben-bartch-help-boost-their-2020-nfl-draft-stock/
The problem with Bartch... his arms scream GUARD!
Peart has the longest arms in this draft class and the #2 wingspan behind only S. Carolina State freak, Alex Taylor... who will be a nice 7th round project for some team to pick up...
http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55720-combine-ol-measurements/
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If a trade down doesn't involve fleecing ATL then either Josh Jones or Matt Peart (as of typing this) then I don't want it.
If a trade down doesn't involve fleecing ATL then either Josh Jones or Matt Peart (as of typing this) then I don't want it.
And it ain't just ATL apparently... which means the price is rising.
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I say draft lamb and then trade him to raiders for two of their 1st rounders this year.
Why would they trade picks #12 and #19 for the #10 pick? I mean, I would do that, absolutely.....but I don't think the draft value charts would support that trade.
Unless, maybe, we threw them back #41? Even then I doubt it works in either the Jimmy Johnson or Harvard charts.
Under the Jimmy Chart.......if we gave them #10....1300 pts # 41 490 pts, and #74 220 pts Total 2010 For #12 1200 and #19 875...total 2075...
we would still be 65 pts short....which means we would also have to give them #115...64 pts.
So, would you do that:
#10 + #41 + #74 + #115......FOR
#12 and #19?
I think it would take some serious thought. (of course, that would require using the out of favor JJ approach.)
That deal, would be much worse for the Browns using the Harvard chart. Without listing all the values....that trade would be the Browns giving up 661.9 vs. receiving back 528.2. NYET
Under the Harvard Chart.....a more workable situation would be trading #10, #41 and #115 (keeping #74)
That would be trading 543.5 pts for 528.2
THAT could get us a LT we need, plus either Murray or Queen.
Why would they trade picks #12 and #19 for the #10 pick? I mean, I would do that, absolutely.....but I don't think the draft value charts would support that trade.
Unless, maybe, we threw them back #41? Even then I doubt it works in either the Jimmy Johnson or Harvard charts.
Under the Jimmy Chart.......if we gave them #10....1300 pts # 41 490 pts, and #74 220 pts Total 2010 For #12 1200 and #19 875...total 2075...
we would still be 65 pts short....which means we would also have to give them #115...64 pts.
So, would you do that:
#10 + #41 + #74 + #115......FOR
#12 and #19?
I think it would take some serious thought. (of course, that would require using the out of favor JJ approach.)
That deal, would be much worse for the Browns using the Harvard chart. Without listing all the values....that trade would be the Browns giving up 661.9 vs. receiving back 528.2. NYET
Under the Harvard Chart.....a more workable situation would be trading #10, #41 and #115 (keeping #74)
That would be trading 543.5 pts for 528.2
THAT could get us a LT we need, plus either Murray or Queen.
No I would not do that trade.
I think the strength of this draft is in middle and Then there are some serious sleepers that are getting 5/6/7 round grades by experts.
41 74 and 105 will have better production than 19- Just My opinion
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Derrick Brown? A slower, less agile version of Danny Sheldon... no thanks...
LOL. You're right - Peart is very intriguing - but we need a starter that has the strength - not sure Peart is enough of a weight room guy yet.
I like Ben Bartch better - he's meaner, loves the game - he's getting more and more attention:
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/kyle-dugger-and-ben-bartch-help-boost-their-2020-nfl-draft-stock/
The problem with Bartch... his arms scream GUARD!
Peart has the longest arms in this draft class and the #2 wingspan behind only S. Carolina State freak, Alex Taylor... who will be a nice 7th round project for some team to pick up...
http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55720-combine-ol-measurements/
Derrick Brown? A slower, less agile version of Danny Sheldon... no thanks...
The problem with Bartch... his arms scream GUARD!
Peart has the longest arms in this draft class and the #2 wingspan behind only S. Carolina State freak, Alex Taylor... who will be a nice 7th round project for some team to pick up...
http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55720-combine-ol-measurements/
That is true - but he is very quick and mirrors very, very well, and in strong. Is it just me? (probably lol) Peart, from reading about him here and there, reminds me of Cameron Erving, OT. 2" less wingspan, but ...Bartch has that mean streak, the physicality... the competitiveness. I think Erving just didn't have the love for the game. He's still around though -
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