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  • Depends on how the Draft is developing, but I'd certainly consider packing the 10+41+115 for the 12+19...

    ... then I'd turned around and see what I can get for the 19.

  • Derrick Brown? A slower, less agile version of Danny Sheldon... no thanks...

    @calfoxwc said:

    LOL. You're right - Peart is very intriguing - but we need a starter that has the strength - not sure Peart is enough of a weight room guy yet.

    I like Ben Bartch better - he's meaner, loves the game - he's getting more and more attention:

    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/kyle-dugger-and-ben-bartch-help-boost-their-2020-nfl-draft-stock/

    The problem with Bartch... his arms scream GUARD!

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    Peart has the longest arms in this draft class and the #2 wingspan behind only S. Carolina State freak, Alex Taylor... who will be a nice 7th round project for some team to pick up...

    http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55720-combine-ol-measurements/

    @tour2ma said:

    Derrick Brown? A slower, less agile version of Danny Sheldon... no thanks...

    The problem with Bartch... his arms scream GUARD!

    image.png.25a214528d6f122470f6796d6a28aefa.png

    image.png.45d7932130508b7d53fdd414ce33dac2.png

    Peart has the longest arms in this draft class and the #2 wingspan behind only S. Carolina State freak, Alex Taylor... who will be a nice 7th round project for some team to pick up...

    http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55720-combine-ol-measurements/

    That is true - but he is very quick and mirrors very, very well, and in strong. Is it just me? (probably lol) Peart, from reading about him here and there, reminds me of Cameron Erving, OT. 2" less wingspan, but ...Bartch has that mean streak, the physicality... the competitiveness. I think Erving just didn't have the love for the game. He's still around though -

  • this draft reminds me of hoping Danny Shelton fell to the Browns at pick #12 in the 2015 draft..sweated it out and it happened..were not those browns anymore where we are looking for 10 new starters imho.. were much closer to the 4 ta 5 good punches at the drafting crap-shoot bag... am not budging off from pick ten...he's a starter of need...am looking a way to trade up maybe in 2nd or 4th and maybe finding a 5th with some personal trades...  Vernon/Chad Thomas/Njoku/Lamm or Hubbard might start the top of the list

  • Derrick Brown? A slower, less agile version of Danny Sheldon... no thanks...

    @calfoxwc said:

    LOL. You're right - Peart is very intriguing - but we need a starter that has the strength - not sure Peart is enough of a weight room guy yet.

    I like Ben Bartch better - he's meaner, loves the game - he's getting more and more attention:

    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/kyle-dugger-and-ben-bartch-help-boost-their-2020-nfl-draft-stock/

    The problem with Bartch... his arms scream GUARD!

    image.png.25a214528d6f122470f6796d6a28aefa.png

    image.png.45d7932130508b7d53fdd414ce33dac2.png

    Peart has the longest arms in this draft class and the #2 wingspan behind only S. Carolina State freak, Alex Taylor... who will be a nice 7th round project for some team to pick up...

    http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55720-combine-ol-measurements/

    @tour2ma said:

    Derrick Brown? A slower, less agile version of Danny Sheldon... no thanks...

    The problem with Bartch... his arms scream GUARD!

    image.png.25a214528d6f122470f6796d6a28aefa.png

    image.png.45d7932130508b7d53fdd414ce33dac2.png

    Peart has the longest arms in this draft class and the #2 wingspan behind only S. Carolina State freak, Alex Taylor... who will be a nice 7th round project for some team to pick up...

    http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55720-combine-ol-measurements/

    I believe Taylor still available in our BB Mock.....so, thanks for the tip. 

  • this draft reminds me of hoping Danny Shelton fell to the Browns at pick #12 in the 2015 draft..sweated it out and it happened..were not those browns anymore where we are looking for 10 new starters imho.. were much closer to the 4 ta 5 good punches at the drafting crap-shoot bag... am not budging off from pick ten...he's a starter of need...am looking a way to trade up maybe in 2nd or 4th and maybe finding a 5th with some personal trades...  Vernon/Chad Thomas/Njoku/Lamm or Hubbard might start the top of the list

    @gumby73 said:

    this draft reminds me of hoping Danny Shelton fell to the Browns at pick #12 in the 2015 draft..sweated it out and it happened..were not those browns anymore where we are looking for 10 new starters imho.. were much closer to the 4 ta 5 good punches at the drafting crap-shoot bag... am not budging off from pick ten...he's a starter of need...am looking a way to trade up maybe in 2nd or 4th and maybe finding a 5th with some personal trades...  Vernon/Chad Thomas/Njoku/Lamm or Hubbard might start the top of the list

    maybe this post was not a good idea? after I hit enter, I go to the fridge to get a beer...look out the new back deck....and.. thick black Smoke & FIRE ? ?... the damn neighbor kids lost a open fire on a nice dry windy day 😮 .... 4 cops & 4 firetrucks down my driveway later.. am now on a police report as a victim of property damage of some dried up weeds...about 200-300 yards from the house....I'll trade ya my neighbors in any deal!! 😆 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Fuck your useless thread and for God's sake... learn how to change the size of the images you copy into your posts.

    At least fuckin' DraftTek didn't have a fuckin' photo of the fuckin #395th player in the fucking draft...

    Do you really want to fuck my thread, i.e. insert your penis into it until you ejaculate?   You do know that that is the definition of the word "Fuck".   (its a common retort I make when people say "fuck you".  I ask if they seriously want to have sexual intercourse with me, right then, right there....it ires them) 

    And why do you care how much space that post took up here?  Are you paying extra for how much you have to look at?  (Besides, actually, when I copied it, that text was a very manageable size...but when it pasted, it came out huge like that.  

    So, just consider that I did this to aid the visually impaired. 

    And I edited it to include just those in the Top 150 prospects to make it more manageable. 

    @the-gipper said:

    And I edited it to include just those in the Top 150 prospects to make it more manageable. 

    Great... cause a question about taking a guy in Round 2 needs to include options down to 150...

    Now edit it again and this time double click on the fucking image and change it's size.

    You'd think a guy with the most posts here by a wide margin would know this shit... but as I've said before... learning would take time.

    The rest isn't worth a reply...

  • @the-gipper said:

    And I edited it to include just those in the Top 150 prospects to make it more manageable. 

    Great... cause a question about taking a guy in Round 2 needs to include options down to 150...

    Now edit it again and this time double click on the fucking image and change it's size.

    You'd think a guy with the most posts here by a wide margin would know this shit... but as I've said before... learning would take time.

    The rest isn't worth a reply...

    @tour2ma said:

    Great... cause a question about taking a guy in Round 2 needs to include options down to 150...

    Now edit it again and this time double click on the fucking image and change it's size.

    You'd think a guy with the most posts here by a wide margin would know this shit... but as I've said before... learning would take time.

    The rest isn't worth a reply...

    It does come out worse on the phone. I will see what I can do   If you say, pretty please, with sugar on top.  Because I didn’t put that up here just to deal with a question about a guy in round two.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Derrick Brown? A slower, less agile version of Danny Sheldon... no thanks...

    The problem with Bartch... his arms scream GUARD!

    image.png.25a214528d6f122470f6796d6a28aefa.png

    image.png.45d7932130508b7d53fdd414ce33dac2.png

    Peart has the longest arms in this draft class and the #2 wingspan behind only S. Carolina State freak, Alex Taylor... who will be a nice 7th round project for some team to pick up...

    http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55720-combine-ol-measurements/

    That is true - but he is very quick and mirrors very, very well, and in strong. Is it just me? (probably lol) Peart, from reading about him here and there, reminds me of Cameron Erving, OT. 2" less wingspan, but ...Bartch has that mean streak, the physicality... the competitiveness. I think Erving just didn't have the love for the game. He's still around though -

    @calfoxwc said:

    Peart, from reading about him here and there, reminds me of Cameron Erving, OT.

    Ummmm... no... trust me... no...

    This ain't Peart...

    @tour2ma said:

    Cameron Erving: FSU (02-11-15) vs. OK St/ND - no kick; lotta waist bend; feet look heavy; fires out on run blocks; focus? Head? ND's DE Sheldon Day gave fits with low edge rush. I can see as an interior prospect, but would like to see tape on him there.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    If a trade down doesn't involve fleecing ATL then either Josh Jones or Matt Peart (as of typing this) then I don't want it.  

    And it ain't just ATL apparently... which means the price is rising.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/denver-broncos-targeting-blockbuster-trade-up-with-cleveland-browns

    @tour2ma said:

    And it ain't just ATL apparently... which means the price is rising.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/denver-broncos-targeting-blockbuster-trade-up-with-cleveland-browns

    Outstanding.  Would help to soften the potential blow of losing Andrew Thomas.

  • Here are those Draftek  OT rankings:

    https://www.drafttek.com/2020-NFL-Draft-Position-Rankings/Top-College-Offensive-Tackles-2020-NFL-Draft.asp

    Just a few notes:

    Wirfs  #7 overall prospect

    Becton #11

    Thomas #16 

    Jones #28

    Cleveland #64

    Peart  #138

    Alex Taylor #189

    Bartch  #313  (UDFA territory)

  • @tour2ma said:

    Great... cause a question about taking a guy in Round 2 needs to include options down to 150...

    Now edit it again and this time double click on the fucking image and change it's size.

    You'd think a guy with the most posts here by a wide margin would know this shit... but as I've said before... learning would take time.

    The rest isn't worth a reply...

    It does come out worse on the phone. I will see what I can do   If you say, pretty please, with sugar on top.  Because I didn’t put that up here just to deal with a question about a guy in round two.

    @the-gipper said:

    It does come out worse on the phone. I will see what I can do  

    Just stop posting from your phone... How 'bout that?

    It's be a great loss, but I for one would be willing to make that sacrifice.

  • @the-gipper said:

    It does come out worse on the phone. I will see what I can do  

    Just stop posting from your phone... How 'bout that?

    It's be a great loss, but I for one would be willing to make that sacrifice.

    @tour2ma said:

    Just stop posting from your phone... How 'bout that?

    It's be a great loss, but I for one would be willing to make that sacrifice.

    @tour2ma said:

    Just stop posting from your phone... How 'bout that?

    It's be a great loss, but I for one would be willing to make that sacrifice.

    I did not post it from my phone. I saw it on my phone. But no I will not stop posting from my phone if I choose. But if you want to sacrifice yourself I know where there’s a volcano you can jump in

  • Speaking of ATL....

    I was reading a Power Ranking article and this stopped me cold...

    14. Falcons (16): They're poised to deploy offense that starts a first-rounder at each position. And with a defense bolstered by DE Dante Fowler? Beware.

    I've never imagined such a thing could be possible... especially is the age of "the cap"...

  • Speaking of ATL....

    I was reading a Power Ranking article and this stopped me cold...

    14. Falcons (16): They're poised to deploy offense that starts a first-rounder at each position. And with a defense bolstered by DE Dante Fowler? Beware.

    I've never imagined such a thing could be possible... especially is the age of "the cap"...

    @tour2ma said:

    Speaking of ATL....

    I was reading a Power Ranking article and this stopped me cold...

    I've never imagined such a thing could be possible... especially is the age of "the cap"...

    We are on second and third contracts with these guys but we just added in April alone on defense... Karl Joseph, Kevin Johnson and Adrian Clayborn all former fist rounders.   It’s possible when a few of them don’t develop like they should  

  • @tour2ma said:

    Speaking of ATL....

    I was reading a Power Ranking article and this stopped me cold...

    I've never imagined such a thing could be possible... especially is the age of "the cap"...

    We are on second and third contracts with these guys but we just added in April alone on defense... Karl Joseph, Kevin Johnson and Adrian Clayborn all former fist rounders.   It’s possible when a few of them don’t develop like they should  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    We are on second and third contracts with these guys but we just added in April alone on defense... Karl Joseph, Kevin Johnson and Adrian Clayborn all former fist rounders.   It’s possible when a few of them don’t develop like they should  

    So, how many first rounders would that make on our defense.   Garrett.  Ward,  the three above...... Richardson,  not sure about Vernon.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    We are on second and third contracts with these guys but we just added in April alone on defense... Karl Joseph, Kevin Johnson and Adrian Clayborn all former fist rounders.   It’s possible when a few of them don’t develop like they should  

    So, how many first rounders would that make on our defense.   Garrett.  Ward,  the three above...... Richardson,  not sure about Vernon.

    @the-gipper said:

    So, how many first rounders would that make on our defense.   Garrett.  Ward,  the three above...... Richardson,  not sure about Vernon.

    Karl Joseph as well 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    We are on second and third contracts with these guys but we just added in April alone on defense... Karl Joseph, Kevin Johnson and Adrian Clayborn all former fist rounders.   It’s possible when a few of them don’t develop like they should  

    So, how many first rounders would that make on our defense.   Garrett.  Ward,  the three above...... Richardson,  not sure about Vernon.

    @the-gipper said:

    So, how many first rounders would that make on our defense.   Garrett.  Ward,  the three above...... Richardson,  not sure about Vernon.

    Other notables...Vernon 3rd rounder, Larry O 3rd, Taki Taki 3rd, Mack 5th, Greedy 2nd, Sendejo Undrafted.

  • @the-gipper said:

    There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe. 

    Fuck your useless thread and for God's sake... learn how to change the size of the images you copy into your posts.

    At least fuckin' DraftTek didn't have a fuckin' photo of the fuckin #395th player in the fucking draft...

    @tour2ma said:

    Fuck your useless thread and for God's sake... learn how to change the size of the images you copy into your posts.

    At least fuckin' DraftTek didn't have a fuckin' photo of the fuckin #395th player in the fucking draft...

    This is my new abdominal workout.   I read it once a day; and hit the deck LMAO to get the 2 minute abs I need.  Best of all?  Tour did all the work!

  • There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.

    But....tell us how, with your trade scenarios,  the Browns come out if it with both a top notch LT and a top notch LB....either Queen or Murray

    I have seen Jones rated anywhere from mid  1st to late 2d round.  

    @the-gipper said:

    There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.  

    Or..... You could apply such an idea when you're starting brand new threads for Trivia every day.  For example,  you could title it "Daily Trivia" and keep just 1 thread going so it's not competing with different draft topics and rumors surfacing.   You've been here long enough to know this is the time of year people want to talk about the draft.  You also know the more appropriate time for trivia is throughout the doldrums of summer when there's not as many current events to talk about.

    Not sure you aware of this or you simply don't care any more; but you come across like you want to be the only one in here starting threads whether I'm being fair to you or not.   Subject headings are actually a courtesy for us to choose which topics we want to participate in.   You don't have to participate in topics you look down your nose at. I'm sure the people that started those topics will appreciate they don't have to argue with you about it; or watch you jump in to change the discussion to something YOU prefer. Then you argue with 1 or 2 guys for the next 5-15 pages until any/all other interest in that person's thread has been suffocated.   That's you in nobody else matters mode. For some reason, it's getting a lot more frequent lately.  Is that really the way you want to be perceived in here?  

  • @the-gipper said:

    There is already a Draft Trade thread on here. Merge maybe.  

    Or..... You could apply such an idea when you're starting brand new threads for Trivia every day.  For example,  you could title it "Daily Trivia" and keep just 1 thread going so it's not competing with different draft topics and rumors surfacing.   You've been here long enough to know this is the time of year people want to talk about the draft.  You also know the more appropriate time for trivia is throughout the doldrums of summer when there's not as many current events to talk about.

    Not sure you aware of this or you simply don't care any more; but you come across like you want to be the only one in here starting threads whether I'm being fair to you or not.   Subject headings are actually a courtesy for us to choose which topics we want to participate in.   You don't have to participate in topics you look down your nose at. I'm sure the people that started those topics will appreciate they don't have to argue with you about it; or watch you jump in to change the discussion to something YOU prefer. Then you argue with 1 or 2 guys for the next 5-15 pages until any/all other interest in that person's thread has been suffocated.   That's you in nobody else matters mode. For some reason, it's getting a lot more frequent lately.  Is that really the way you want to be perceived in here?  

    @flugel said:

    Or..... You could apply such an idea when you're starting brand new threads for Trivia every day.  For example,  you could title it "Daily Trivia" and keep just 1 thread going so it's not competing with different draft topics and rumors surfacing.   You've been here long enough to know this is the time of year people want to talk about the draft.  You also know the more appropriate time for trivia is throughout the doldrums of summer when there's not as many current events to talk about.

    Uh...Uhm, in case you hadn't noticed,  all the trivia threads ARE being merged into a single thread after a day. Only that days thread is separate.  And that is done as a courtesy in order to not get that new question intertwined with other questions.  And also,  all the recent threads have been Draft related threads.....and, in my experience.....draft time is the time when people are MOST interested in this type of Trivia.  That and actually during the season.

    Not sure you aware of this or you simply don't care any more; but you come across like you want to be the only one in here starting threads whether I'm being fair to you or not.

    Don't know how you get that.  I start threads here and there based on subjects that interest me.  I have no control over who else starts other threads, or their subjects, or how many they start.   If you want to start a dozen threads...be my guest. 

      Subject headings are actually a courtesy for us to choose which topics we want to participate in.   You don't have to participate in topics you look down your nose at. I'm sure the people that started those topics will appreciate they don't have to argue with you about it; or watch you jump in to change the discussion to something YOU prefer.

    I actually read every thread. I give each poster the courtesy of paying attention to what they have posted.  Occasionally I skim over some posts, and oftentimes I have nothing to contribute but don't. 

    Then you argue with 1 or 2 guys

    ....or,  err they argue with me. Like you seem to be doing here.  No one forces you to argue with me, to perpetuate these things.  But, if you expect me to not countermand whatever argument you make, if I feel the necessity then you don't understand human nature. (If you hadn't brought this up, it would have gone no further)

    for the next 5-15 pages until any/all other interest in that person's thread has been suffocated.   That's you in nobody else matters mode. For some reason, it's getting a lot more frequent lately.  Is that really the way you want to be perceived in here?  

    What I perceived is that the mods apparently agreed with me that we don't need  a half dozen  uniform threads, as they have in fact merged them into one.