Saftey vs. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness
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Not really. It just reflects the cavalier attitude I'm hearing on the board which is just a regurgitation of Fox's which informs the King what to think.
It's this kinda shit right here... these baseless assertions..Cavalier showing arrogant or offhand disregard; dismissive: a cavalier attitude toward the suffering of others.
It's a rational attitude being expressed here Tex, something you TDS types lack. What your accusation really reflects is what we've known about your types for a long time, that feelings and emotions take priority over reason and rationale.
So I guess it would be fair to accuse you of having a cavalier attitude over the suffering and hardships being inflicted on Americans if this lockdown is allowed to continue. But I wont.
It's this kinda shit right here... these baseless assertions..Cavalier showing arrogant or offhand disregard; dismissive: a cavalier attitude toward the suffering of others.
It's a rational attitude being expressed here Tex, something you TDS types lack. What your accusation really reflects is what we've known about your types for a long time, that feelings and emotions take priority over reason and rationale.
So I guess it would be fair to accuse you of having a cavalier attitude over the suffering and hardships being inflicted on Americans if this lockdown is allowed to continue. But I wont.
And saying that 250,000 is acceptable is not cavalier? I see that the Moron in Chief has an able follower.
And then it continues.....................................
It greatly upset me when I heard my friends mom hasn't even been allowed out of her assisted living room for the last 3 weeks. That's not called precautions, that's called solitary confinement. Most convicts are allowed better.
See how that statement is juxtaposed with 250,000 seemingly acceptable death? Really one person's discomfort is "greatly" upsetting, but the likelihood of 250,000 is not?
Let's see if moron Jr. (Gorka) can figure out the oxymoron on that one.
Very doubtful though. The trumpy line is to continue to deflect, blame others and ignore the obvious. And we all know who can't see beyond King Moron.?
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It's this kinda shit right here... these baseless assertions..Cavalier showing arrogant or offhand disregard; dismissive: a cavalier attitude toward the suffering of others.
It's a rational attitude being expressed here Tex, something you TDS types lack. What your accusation really reflects is what we've known about your types for a long time, that feelings and emotions take priority over reason and rationale.
So I guess it would be fair to accuse you of having a cavalier attitude over the suffering and hardships being inflicted on Americans if this lockdown is allowed to continue. But I wont.
And saying that 250,000 is acceptable is not cavalier? I see that the Moron in Chief has an able follower.
And then it continues.....................................
It greatly upset me when I heard my friends mom hasn't even been allowed out of her assisted living room for the last 3 weeks. That's not called precautions, that's called solitary confinement. Most convicts are allowed better.
See how that statement is juxtaposed with 250,000 seemingly acceptable death? Really one person's discomfort is "greatly" upsetting, but the likelihood of 250,000 is not?
Let's see if moron Jr. (Gorka) can figure out the oxymoron on that one.
Very doubtful though. The trumpy line is to continue to deflect, blame others and ignore the obvious. And we all know who can't see beyond King Moron.?
And saying that 250,000 is acceptable is not cavalier? I see that the Moron in Chief has an able follower.
And then it continues.....................................
See how that statement is juxtaposed with 250,000 seemingly acceptable death? Really one person's discomfort is "greatly" upsetting, but the likelihood of 250,000 is not?
Let's see if moron Jr. (Gorka) can figure out the oxymoron on that one.
Very doubtful though. The trumpy line is to continue to deflect, blame others and ignore the obvious. And we all know who can't see beyond King Moron.?
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Interesting reads Steve- but how can anyone state- the Fatality rate equals seasonal flu.
It's an economic disaster alright. Don't need a doctorate in economics to figure that out.
Interesting reads Steve- but how can anyone state- the Fatality rate equals seasonal flu.
It's an economic disaster alright. Don't need a doctorate in economics to figure that out.
What has been odd about this is that I don't know anyone who has contracted the virus. No one in my relatively large family , no friends or acquaintances, neighbors or co-workers,...yet come flu season it seems someone I know got the flue bug.
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It's this kinda shit right here... these baseless assertions..Cavalier showing arrogant or offhand disregard; dismissive: a cavalier attitude toward the suffering of others.
It's a rational attitude being expressed here Tex, something you TDS types lack. What your accusation really reflects is what we've known about your types for a long time, that feelings and emotions take priority over reason and rationale.
So I guess it would be fair to accuse you of having a cavalier attitude over the suffering and hardships being inflicted on Americans if this lockdown is allowed to continue. But I wont.
And saying that 250,000 is acceptable is not cavalier? I see that the Moron in Chief has an able follower.
And then it continues.....................................
It greatly upset me when I heard my friends mom hasn't even been allowed out of her assisted living room for the last 3 weeks. That's not called precautions, that's called solitary confinement. Most convicts are allowed better.
See how that statement is juxtaposed with 250,000 seemingly acceptable death? Really one person's discomfort is "greatly" upsetting, but the likelihood of 250,000 is not?
Let's see if moron Jr. (Gorka) can figure out the oxymoron on that one.
Very doubtful though. The trumpy line is to continue to deflect, blame others and ignore the obvious. And we all know who can't see beyond King Moron.?
And saying that 250,000 is acceptable is not cavalier? I see that the Moron in Chief has an able follower.
And then it continues.....................................
See how that statement is juxtaposed with 250,000 seemingly acceptable death? Really one person's discomfort is "greatly" upsetting, but the likelihood of 250,000 is not?
Let's see if moron Jr. (Gorka) can figure out the oxymoron on that one.
Very doubtful though. The trumpy line is to continue to deflect, blame others and ignore the obvious. And we all know who can't see beyond King Moron.?
Geezus, and I even put he definition of cavalier right in front of this half brain.
Hoorta never said it was acceptable. You chose the word "acceptable" then took it out of context to imply that Hoorta has an arrogant disregard or a dismissive attitude toward death and suffering. Fuckin knuckle dragging monkey.
39000 die from auto accidents each year and 100's of thousands are injured or disabled. Is that acceptable or is it not?
For you homework explain why or why not. You're allowed to pair up , so go ahead and partner up with DHead. -
So here is my question. What are trump supporters doing about his dithering around with no massive federal push for testing?
Remember that old saying used way back when, "It's the economy stupid!"
Well..........................again he needs to hear from his supporters, "It's the testing stupid!"
Ironically if he acted like a real wartime president as he clams he is, then that is what he would be doing rather than wasting even more time on deflecting, blaming and not taking any responsibility for anything. The ironic part is that if he actually reversed field and did that, he'd win the election hands down. All his experts are telling him that is what is needed to do an open it up policy.
Yet he just remains a moron. "Who could have seen that coming?"
Part of the mess we are in today is because of the other genius's before Trump who shipped our jobs and supply chains to China. How much of this testing falls to governors of individual states and how much can the federal government do? The federal government cannot do it all. Cuomo of New York cannot have it both ways. He cannot make a decision 5 years ago to not buy thousands of ventilators and then when a pandemic hits blame the federal government because NY doesn't have enough ventilators. Who could have seen the flu pandemic coming?Apparently all those on the left who were visionaries at the time warning us about it...too bad the internet doesn't forget what they actually said.
Part of the mess we are in today is because of the other genius's before Trump who shipped our jobs and supply chains to China. How much of this testing falls to governors of individual states and how much can the federal government do? The federal government cannot do it all. Cuomo of New York cannot have it both ways. He cannot make a decision 5 years ago to not buy thousands of ventilators and then when a pandemic hits blame the federal government because NY doesn't have enough ventilators. Who could have seen the flu pandemic coming?Apparently all those on the left who were visionaries at the time warning us about it...too bad the internet doesn't forget what they actually said.
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So here is my question. What are trump supporters doing about his dithering around with no massive federal push for testing?
You got us there.
I admit I'm doing nothing to push for Federal funding for testing. OBF what are you doing about it? Axe? Cal? Especially you Steve, what are you doing about it?
You got us there.
I admit I'm doing nothing to push for Federal funding for testing. OBF what are you doing about it? Axe? Cal? Especially you Steve, what are you doing about it?
LOL, me personally, I was going to call Pres Trump and tell him we desperately need an instant knee jerkie 380,000,000 tests done by TOMORROW, but we took the new fancy spaceship car to the dealer to get it undercoated/weather sealed, and ordered our steak dinners for pickup on the way home, and a neighbor wanted to borrow the big tractor rototiller, and we had to start a new jigsaw puzzle, and, with all the quarantine thing - Wife wanted to nascar around on her hotrod lawn mower, so I had to pick up all the fruit tree branches from trimming the trees so I helped the economy by hiring two little neighborhood kids who stopped by to help me....and I got pretty sore later on. I'm baking bread and taking it easy. I think.
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Two weeks from today social distancing is gonna take a whack.
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You got us there.
I admit I'm doing nothing to push for Federal funding for testing. OBF what are you doing about it? Axe? Cal? Especially you Steve, what are you doing about it?
LOL, me personally, I was going to call Pres Trump and tell him we desperately need an instant knee jerkie 380,000,000 tests done by TOMORROW, but we took the new fancy spaceship car to the dealer to get it undercoated/weather sealed, and ordered our steak dinners for pickup on the way home, and a neighbor wanted to borrow the big tractor rototiller, and we had to start a new jigsaw puzzle, and, with all the quarantine thing - Wife wanted to nascar around on her hotrod lawn mower, so I had to pick up all the fruit tree branches from trimming the trees so I helped the economy by hiring two little neighborhood kids who stopped by to help me....and I got pretty sore later on. I'm baking bread and taking it easy. I think.
Wife wanted to nascar around on her hotrod lawn mower, so I had to pick up all the fruit tree branches from trimming the trees so I helped the economy by hiring two little neighborhood kids who stopped by to help me..
So you needlessly exposed yourself to two snot nosed kids when you know under a certain age they are just carriers?!!???
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Wife wanted to nascar around on her hotrod lawn mower, so I had to pick up all the fruit tree branches from trimming the trees so I helped the economy by hiring two little neighborhood kids who stopped by to help me..
So you needlessly exposed yourself to two snot nosed kids when you know under a certain age they are just carriers?!!???
So you needlessly exposed yourself to two snot nosed kids when you know under a certain age they are just carriers?!!???
do you get cookies for asking stupid questions and declaring stupid antagonistic threads that have zero merit? What the heck - are you counting on opening up an internet cookie business???
They kept 6 feet away. It was outdoors. No fruit trees grow in the house.
I wish hardcore liberals would learn to think instead of outrageously emote for negative attention.
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So you needlessly exposed yourself to two snot nosed kids when you know under a certain age they are just carriers?!!???
do you get cookies for asking stupid questions and declaring stupid antagonistic threads that have zero merit? What the heck - are you counting on opening up an internet cookie business???
They kept 6 feet away. It was outdoors. No fruit trees grow in the house.
I wish hardcore liberals would learn to think instead of outrageously emote for negative attention.
do you get cookies for asking stupid questions and declaring stupid antagonistic threads that have zero merit? What the heck - are you counting on opening up an internet cookie business???
They kept 6 feet away. It was outdoors. No fruit trees grow in the house.
I wish hardcore liberals would learn to think instead of outrageously emote for negative attention.
I put the laughin' face on it so you could distinguish pulling your chain from something serious.
But let me fix it for ya.!
So you needlessly exposed yourself to two snot nosed kids when you know under a certain age they are just carriers?!!???
LOL!?
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and I went and put and Uncle Si being funny so you could understand I was responding in kind. But you emotionally knee jerked too fast, before I could edit my post... Now, if you just ever had a serious contribution to a discussion that you could back up with legitimacy, that would cause for celebration!.
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Interesting reads Steve- but how can anyone state- the Fatality rate equals seasonal flu.
It's an economic disaster alright. Don't need a doctorate in economics to figure that out.
What has been odd about this is that I don't know anyone who has contracted the virus. No one in my relatively large family , no friends or acquaintances, neighbors or co-workers,...yet come flu season it seems someone I know got the flue bug.
What has been odd about this is that I don't know anyone who has contracted the virus. No one in my relatively large family , no friends or acquaintances, neighbors or co-workers,...yet come flu season it seems someone I know got the flue bug.
I don't minimize this virus. It put Britain's PM Boris Johnson in the ICU in critical condition . Canton Dawg got hit hard with it and is hospitalized. A friend of mine who is home now on oxygen also was hospitalized and was on a ventilator for 5 days. This is a very nasty Chinese virus. My argument Gorka is to take this virus seriously but not let the cure be worse than the disease. It seems like most people who get the virus will have no or mild symptoms but those who get hit hard with it really get hit hard. Those who are at risk such as the elderly and those with underlying health conditions should take extra precautions. We are between a rock and a hard place. In a perfect world we should take months of a lock down to starve the virus but in the real world if we did that we could end up with a financial collapse the likes we haven't seen since the Great Depression.
Also this Chinese virus is more contagious than anything I can remember. We know the spread is going to happen again when we open things up but do we have any other choice?
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What has been odd about this is that I don't know anyone who has contracted the virus. No one in my relatively large family , no friends or acquaintances, neighbors or co-workers,...yet come flu season it seems someone I know got the flue bug.
I don't minimize this virus. It put Britain's PM Boris Johnson in the ICU in critical condition . Canton Dawg got hit hard with it and is hospitalized. A friend of mine who is home now on oxygen also was hospitalized and was on a ventilator for 5 days. This is a very nasty Chinese virus. My argument Gorka is to take this virus seriously but not let the cure be worse than the disease. It seems like most people who get the virus will have no or mild symptoms but those who get hit hard with it really get hit hard. Those who are at risk such as the elderly and those with underlying health conditions should take extra precautions. We are between a rock and a hard place. In a perfect world we should take months of a lock down to starve the virus but in the real world if we did that we could end up with a financial collapse the likes we haven't seen since the Great Depression.
Also this Chinese virus is more contagious than anything I can remember. We know the spread is going to happen again when we open things up but do we have any other choice?
I don't minimize this virus. It put Britain's PM Boris Johnson in the ICU in critical condition . Canton Dawg got hit hard with it and is hospitalized. A friend of mine who is home now on oxygen also was hospitalized and was on a ventilator for 5 days. This is a very nasty Chinese virus. My argument Gorka is to take this virus seriously but not let the cure be worse than the disease. It seems like most people who get the virus will have no or mild symptoms but those who get hit hard with it really get hit hard. Those who are at risk such as the elderly and those with underlying health conditions should take extra precautions. We are between a rock and a hard place. In a perfect world we should take months of a lock down to starve the virus but in the real world if we did that we could end up with a financial collapse the likes we haven't seen since the Great Depression.
Also this Chinese virus is more contagious than anything I can remember. We know the spread is going to happen again when we open things up but do we have any other choice?
I believe it's getting near time to get back ...closer...to regular every day life. We can do that, while still being careful, not taking anything for granted or being careless. Some societal norms will go by the wayside - shaking hands/hugging etc...I think the use of public bathrooms might be "only in case of emergency" kind of thing - hand sanitizer everywhere. I do wonder how the camp out in Sept will go...if it does at all.
We may not ever be the same again - but eventually, we will find a vaccine etc and get past it for the most part.
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What has been odd about this is that I don't know anyone who has contracted the virus. No one in my relatively large family , no friends or acquaintances, neighbors or co-workers,...yet come flu season it seems someone I know got the flue bug.
I don't minimize this virus. It put Britain's PM Boris Johnson in the ICU in critical condition . Canton Dawg got hit hard with it and is hospitalized. A friend of mine who is home now on oxygen also was hospitalized and was on a ventilator for 5 days. This is a very nasty Chinese virus. My argument Gorka is to take this virus seriously but not let the cure be worse than the disease. It seems like most people who get the virus will have no or mild symptoms but those who get hit hard with it really get hit hard. Those who are at risk such as the elderly and those with underlying health conditions should take extra precautions. We are between a rock and a hard place. In a perfect world we should take months of a lock down to starve the virus but in the real world if we did that we could end up with a financial collapse the likes we haven't seen since the Great Depression.
Also this Chinese virus is more contagious than anything I can remember. We know the spread is going to happen again when we open things up but do we have any other choice?
I don't minimize this virus. It put Britain's PM Boris Johnson in the ICU in critical condition . Canton Dawg got hit hard with it and is hospitalized. A friend of mine who is home now on oxygen also was hospitalized and was on a ventilator for 5 days. This is a very nasty Chinese virus. My argument Gorka is to take this virus seriously but not let the cure be worse than the disease. It seems like most people who get the virus will have no or mild symptoms but those who get hit hard with it really get hit hard. Those who are at risk such as the elderly and those with underlying health conditions should take extra precautions. We are between a rock and a hard place. In a perfect world we should take months of a lock down to starve the virus but in the real world if we did that we could end up with a financial collapse the likes we haven't seen since the Great Depression.
Also this Chinese virus is more contagious than anything I can remember. We know the spread is going to happen again when we open things up but do we have any other choice?
I don't know CDawg personally,, I was just curious to know if anyone has had the experience I have had thus far. I was shocked at Boris contracting it as well as other notable names.
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I don't minimize this virus. It put Britain's PM Boris Johnson in the ICU in critical condition . Canton Dawg got hit hard with it and is hospitalized. A friend of mine who is home now on oxygen also was hospitalized and was on a ventilator for 5 days. This is a very nasty Chinese virus. My argument Gorka is to take this virus seriously but not let the cure be worse than the disease. It seems like most people who get the virus will have no or mild symptoms but those who get hit hard with it really get hit hard. Those who are at risk such as the elderly and those with underlying health conditions should take extra precautions. We are between a rock and a hard place. In a perfect world we should take months of a lock down to starve the virus but in the real world if we did that we could end up with a financial collapse the likes we haven't seen since the Great Depression.
Also this Chinese virus is more contagious than anything I can remember. We know the spread is going to happen again when we open things up but do we have any other choice?
I don't know CDawg personally,, I was just curious to know if anyone has had the experience I have had thus far. I was shocked at Boris contracting it as well as other notable names.
I don't know CDawg personally,, I was just curious to know if anyone has had the experience I have had thus far. I was shocked at Boris contracting it as well other famous names.
I don't know Cdawg either personally. He did say he was diabetic and asthmatic which would make him a prime candidate to get hit hard with the virus. My friend who was put on a ventilator for 5 days I thought didn't have any other health issues but I found out from his sister he did have diabetes and high blood pressure which put him at greater risk.
There are other cases though of younger healthy people with no underlying medical issues getting hit hard with the virus. I wonder is there more than one strain of the virus with one strain being more deadly and another milder? Or is it a case where some get a real good dose of the virus all at once and their system gets overwhelmed quickly while others get less of a dose giving their bodies more time to fight it off?
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FAUCI SAYS REOPENING TOO QUICKLY WILL BACKFIRE
OK and the good doctor is probably right about this although he was surely wrong when he repeatedly said the risk of the virus spreading in the United States was minimal.
Now we need some economists being interviewed about just how long we can go with lockdowns before the economic costs are catastrophic. It is a balancing act.
Fauci doesn't set a time period of when we should re-open. That would be good to know. He is setting himself for an easy "I told you so" when the virus inevitably starts to spread again after we re-open. Once we re-open every new case of Covid19 and every death will be laid on those of us who wanted to re-open the economy. You can count on it from the MSM but the other side of the story are the economic consequences of an extended lock down.
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FAUCI SAYS REOPENING TOO QUICKLY WILL BACKFIRE
OK and the good doctor is probably right about this although he was surely wrong when he repeatedly said the risk of the virus spreading in the United States was minimal.
Now we need some economists being interviewed about just how long we can go with lockdowns before the economic costs are catastrophic. It is a balancing act.
Fauci doesn't set a time period of when we should re-open. That would be good to know. He is setting himself for an easy "I told you so" when the virus inevitably starts to spread again after we re-open. Once we re-open every new case of Covid19 and every death will be laid on those of us who wanted to re-open the economy. You can count on it from the MSM but the other side of the story are the economic consequences of an extended lock down.
FAUCI SAYS REOPENING TOO QUICKLY WILL BACKFIRE
OK and the good doctor is probably right about this although he was surely wrong when he repeatedly said the risk of the virus spreading in the United States was minimal.
Now we need some economists being interviewed about just how long we can go with lockdowns before the economic costs are catastrophic. It is a balancing act.
Fauci doesn't set a time period of when we should re-open. That would be good to know. He is setting himself for an easy "I told you so" when the virus inevitably starts to spread again after we re-open. Once we re-open every new case of Covid19 and every death will be laid on those of us who wanted to re-open the economy. You can count on it from the MSM but the other side of the story are the economic consequences of an extended lock down.
Trump should ask one of his economies advisors about whether The Natural Disasters would be able to beat Corona at Summer Slam.
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And saying that 250,000 is acceptable is not cavalier? I see that the Moron in Chief has an able follower.
And then it continues.....................................
See how that statement is juxtaposed with 250,000 seemingly acceptable death? Really one person's discomfort is "greatly" upsetting, but the likelihood of 250,000 is not?
Let's see if moron Jr. (Gorka) can figure out the oxymoron on that one.
Very doubtful though. The trumpy line is to continue to deflect, blame others and ignore the obvious. And we all know who can't see beyond King Moron.?
Geezus, and I even put he definition of cavalier right in front of this half brain.
Hoorta never said it was acceptable. You chose the word "acceptable" then took it out of context to imply that Hoorta has an arrogant disregard or a dismissive attitude toward death and suffering. Fuckin knuckle dragging monkey.
39000 die from auto accidents each year and 100's of thousands are injured or disabled. Is that acceptable or is it not?
For you homework explain why or why not. You're allowed to pair up , so go ahead and partner up with DHead.Geezus, and I even put he definition of cavalier right in front of this half brain.
Hoorta never said it was acceptable. You chose the word "acceptable" then took it out of context to imply that Hoorta has an arrogant disregard or a dismissive attitude toward death and suffering. Fuckin knuckle dragging monkey.
39000 die from auto accidents each year and 100's of thousands are injured or disabled. Is that acceptable or is it not?
For you homework explain why or why not. You're allowed to pair up , so go ahead and partner up with DHeadYears of having to get (or having the ER doc get) blood samples out of trauma patients so I could get their transfusions set up has left me very cold blooded realistic. Seeing what's left of people who wrecked their Harleys at 50+ mph, or gotten run over by a train will do that to you. Doesn't mean I'm unsympathetic to human suffering though. It's part of our human condition.
My initial point with Tex was over 2 million people die of various causes in the United States every year. Whether you die from Corona, cancer, a heart attack, or car wreck- you're just as dead. Sort of disingenuous that I should somehow be more sympathetic to someone who died of covid than to the parents whose kid accidentally drowned in the backyard pool. That's not being cavalier, just realistic.
Yes, there's been 42k (and counting) Corona deaths so far. There's going to be more regardless of what we do or don't do. If you want to bunker down like Ag, or instead flip the governors off and protest, it's your choice. I'm far from the only one out there of the opinion you can't minimize the loss of life at all costs- at any cost.
So based on what we know, my POV is I like my Vegas survival odds. 20:1 even if I contract Corona it's not going to kill me, and even if I accept Ag's horror story of a million deaths, my odds are 330:1 I'm not going to be one of those landing in a cemetery.
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FAUCI SAYS REOPENING TOO QUICKLY WILL BACKFIRE
OK and the good doctor is probably right about this although he was surely wrong when he repeatedly said the risk of the virus spreading in the United States was minimal.
Now we need some economists being interviewed about just how long we can go with lockdowns before the economic costs are catastrophic. It is a balancing act.
Fauci doesn't set a time period of when we should re-open. That would be good to know. He is setting himself for an easy "I told you so" when the virus inevitably starts to spread again after we re-open. Once we re-open every new case of Covid19 and every death will be laid on those of us who wanted to re-open the economy. You can count on it from the MSM but the other side of the story are the economic consequences of an extended lock down.
Once we re-open every new case of Covid19 and every death will be laid on those of us who wanted to re-open the economy.
As it should be.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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