Wednesday 8/12/09 Training Camp Review
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That's an awful lot of optimism for a realist to take!!!
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QB BATTLE: Brady- Ive always had a little bias towards Brady Quinn because of his wonderful career in college and his hometown loyalty. He is an accurate quarterback who has yet had the chance to prove himself in the NFL. But yesterday, he did not fit that profile. Maybe he was having a bad day but Quinn (during 2 min drills) spent way too much time in the pocket, got picked off by Rod Hood, and had 2 incomplete passes. All wasn't negative though. He threw two touchdown passes to newly aquired TE Robert Royal, who has impressed me the most in recent days. Derek Anderson impressed me by being more accurate than usual. In one case, he rolled out for 20 seconds trying to escape would-be tacklers in real games. Even after almost running out of bounds, DA threw a 35 yard pass to the corner of the endzone for Mohammad Massoquai. So I will continue to have mixed feelings about Derek. Brett Ratliff and Richard Bartel got around 2 snaps a peice and were hard to judge. Now I truly see why Mangini is having such a hard time picking a starter. My vote still goes to Quinn.
I also have had a bias in favor of bq but i see possible potential in DA who is also a young fairly raw qb as well...i would love to actually see them both in camp but i trust what i read here DA has always looked ok in practice its under live pressure i get itchy with him under center...its a strange itch because i trust DA but i dont trust DA (dr jekyll and mr hyde) I have a tendency to view DA as a great backup but a sub par undisciplined starter some say he will never get any better and at times it looks that way but he is getting a little better and in time under a disciplinary coach he may very well become the right guy to start but that time isnt now imo...
BQ is by most accounts a little behind DA in camp or doesnt look as crisp which means nothing right now...he has 3 years of benchrust to shake off while DA is quite familiar with playing on the first team but bq really needs to shake the rust saturday night because I suspect the BQ and DA we see against greenbay will largely determine who starts..im a big domer fan and watched bq develop and play..and always believed he could lead the browns to the promised land unfortunately 3 years of RAC induced benchrot later and bq still looks like a rookie and hasnt yet shown he deserves to start anymore than DA has...they are both dissappointing thusfar and if one of them cant pull well ahead of the other by 2 games or both are making costly decisions mangini should man up and start ratty let him finish out the preseason if ratty outperforms bq and da name him the starter...and trade/waive whichever qb had the poorest performance...ending the qb controversy until next year when bq and ratty compete for the final end to the controversy...
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No way jamal Lewis has five years left in the tank........... One good practice session will never make me believe that. In fact, I have heard numerous reports that he has been very up and down in camp.
Also, I could have sworn my Twitter update said Rod Hood picked off Anderson, not Quinn. I'll go back and double check that though.
Either way, thanks for the post, unbiased perspectives are always welcome.
EDIT - It was DA that threw the INT to Hood, but it was a tipped pass...
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Good stuff. I don't know why they don't just settle on BQ now and get it over with. At the very least you know what you got in DA and can always bring him in if it doesn't pan out with Brady.
Good stuff. I don't know why they don't just settle on BQ now and get it over with. At the very least you know what you got in DA and can always bring him in if it doesn't pan out with Brady.
Mangini isn't just going to cave and settle on a quarterback. That's what the fans and media want him to do, but as we know, by most accounts, fans and media or mostly morons who don't have a clue how to run a football team or prepare for a football game.
I don't think mangini NEEDS to settle on anything. The preseason is completely overblown. The Browns had their best team since their return when they didn't have a true starting QB until week 2. Id rather see patience than rush someone on the field.
While most seem to favor Quinn, he has done ab solutely nothing to be given the clear-cut starting job as of yet. He hasn't really earned it at this point.
Do I think he should start? Yes, but that's because I have watched Anderson perform in real games for years and doubt he will get much better. However, mangini hasn't coached Anderson yet and needs to do his due dilligence on this decision. I hope him and Daboll continue to evaluate it closely.
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Good stuff. I don't know why they don't just settle on BQ now and get it over with. At the very least you know what you got in DA and can always bring him in if it doesn't pan out with Brady.
Mangini isn't just going to cave and settle on a quarterback. That's what the fans and media want him to do, but as we know, by most accounts, fans and media or mostly morons who don't have a clue how to run a football team or prepare for a football game.
I don't think mangini NEEDS to settle on anything. The preseason is completely overblown. The Browns had their best team since their return when they didn't have a true starting QB until week 2. Id rather see patience than rush someone on the field.
While most seem to favor Quinn, he has done ab solutely nothing to be given the clear-cut starting job as of yet. He hasn't really earned it at this point.
Do I think he should start? Yes, but that's because I have watched Anderson perform in real games for years and doubt he will get much better. However, mangini hasn't coached Anderson yet and needs to do his due dilligence on this decision. I hope him and Daboll continue to evaluate it closely.
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Most 1st round picks arn't forced to show they are a hall of famer before they even take the feild.
There are some perks to being drafted in round one.
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Browns go 16-0 from the sound of this report.
Maybe Wedsday's camp was just a good day for everyone..... or maybe someone's been drinking that browns kool-aide...
Either way, thanks for the detailed post on camp. I always like to read HOW everybody performs rather than the cut-and-dried numbers that you see in tweets.
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