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Would You Trade 10 for Jamal Adams?

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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Maybe get a late round pick back?

    Fill OT hole with Trent Williams?

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      B Bigalow80 wrote on last edited by
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      interesting thought, but it's going to take more than just the #10 pick to get him. I have heard they want a #1 plus a guy like obj plus a 3rd

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        B Bigalow80 wrote on last edited by
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        Here's a trade scenario I'm going to throw out there. There is a rumor that Miami wants to move into the #3 slot WITHOUT using their #5 pick. What if this turns into a three team deal? Try to follow:

        Miami gets #3 from Detroit

        Detroit gets #10 from Cleveland plus #26 from Miami, #56 and 3rd round in 2021 from MIA

        Cleveland receives #18 and #39 from MIA

        If your wondering where this falls on the draft chart...here is the link for values

        https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=mia

        Detroit needs 2200 from the value chart...they receives roughly 2600 depending on next years value but it should be fairly high

        Cleveland needs 1300 and they get 1410 back

        It's oddly fair and I think depending on how the browns board falls with the rest of the draft, I would do it.

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          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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          OOF.  Because I fucking love Jamal Adams too.    I.... don't have an answer at this moment.

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            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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            rumors...Jamal wants to go back home to be a Cowboy..rumored..Jerry went back home to prepare for another sleepover guest..

            Great player looking to get paid in 2022..worked for Jalen Ramsey...but we can't pay them all

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              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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              More I think about it, the more I would pass.

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              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                Maybe get a late round pick back?

                Fill OT hole with Trent Williams?

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                Maybe get a late round pick back?

                Fill OT hole with Trent Williams?

                No.  I am good to go with  who we have at Safety.......plus maybe getting a guy in round 2-3.  

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Maybe get a late round pick back?

                  Fill OT hole with Trent Williams?

                  No.  I am good to go with  who we have at Safety.......plus maybe getting a guy in round 2-3.  

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  No.  I am good to go with  who we have at Safety.......plus maybe getting a guy in round 2-3.  

                  Who do we have at safety?

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    Here's a trade scenario I'm going to throw out there. There is a rumor that Miami wants to move into the #3 slot WITHOUT using their #5 pick. What if this turns into a three team deal? Try to follow:

                    Miami gets #3 from Detroit

                    Detroit gets #10 from Cleveland plus #26 from Miami, #56 and 3rd round in 2021 from MIA

                    Cleveland receives #18 and #39 from MIA

                    If your wondering where this falls on the draft chart...here is the link for values

                    https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=mia

                    Detroit needs 2200 from the value chart...they receives roughly 2600 depending on next years value but it should be fairly high

                    Cleveland needs 1300 and they get 1410 back

                    It's oddly fair and I think depending on how the browns board falls with the rest of the draft, I would do it.

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @bigalow80 said:

                    Here's a trade scenario I'm going to throw out there. There is a rumor that Miami wants to move into the #3 slot WITHOUT using their #5 pick. What if this turns into a three team deal? Try to follow:

                    Miami gets #3 from Detroit

                    Detroit gets #10 from Cleveland plus #26 from Miami, #56 and 3rd round in 2021 from MIA

                    Cleveland receives #18 and #39 from MIA

                    If your wondering where this falls on the draft chart...here is the link for values

                    https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=mia

                    Detroit needs 2200 from the value chart...they receives roughly 2600 depending on next years value but it should be fairly high

                    Cleveland needs 1300 and they get 1410 back

                    It's oddly fair and I think depending on how the browns board falls with the rest of the draft, I would do it.

                    ONLY  if we get  Trent Williams for like a #3 and a #7........because then I would still want to have  that #18, #39 and #41.    As I am thinking that we really won't get the LT  we want/need as far down as  #18.    But Williams make the absolute need for that superfluous.  We get Williams,   a LB with 18  (Queen/Murray)  and a safety and....something else.  Maybe another OT.....project. 

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      No.  I am good to go with  who we have at Safety.......plus maybe getting a guy in round 2-3.  

                      Who do we have at safety?

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      Who do we have at safety?

                      Yes, we are weakish.    Karl Joseph,  Sandejo, Redwine. And JT Hassell.  Yes, we need a guy.  But I don't want that deal. 

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                        Here's a trade scenario I'm going to throw out there. There is a rumor that Miami wants to move into the #3 slot WITHOUT using their #5 pick. What if this turns into a three team deal? Try to follow:

                        Miami gets #3 from Detroit

                        Detroit gets #10 from Cleveland plus #26 from Miami, #56 and 3rd round in 2021 from MIA

                        Cleveland receives #18 and #39 from MIA

                        If your wondering where this falls on the draft chart...here is the link for values

                        https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=mia

                        Detroit needs 2200 from the value chart...they receives roughly 2600 depending on next years value but it should be fairly high

                        Cleveland needs 1300 and they get 1410 back

                        It's oddly fair and I think depending on how the browns board falls with the rest of the draft, I would do it.

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @bigalow80 said:

                        Miami gets #3 from Detroit

                        Detroit gets #10 from Cleveland plus #26 from Miami, #56 and 3rd round in 2021 from MIA

                        Cleveland receives #18 and #39 from MIA

                        DePo'd be all over this, if we've landed Trent W... if not, it's a hard pass as you are helping a team take an OT off the board.

                        #10 (299.1) => #18 (249.2) + #39 (164.1) = 413.2

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                          Bit of an update...

                          Should Cleveland Browns trade a 1st, and 3rd for Jamal Adams?

                          In need of help at safety, the Cleveland Browns added Karl Joseph and Andrew Sendejo in free agency this offseason. Following those signings, they added Grant Delpit in the second round of the draft, which gives them three capable starters. But should they look for more?

                          Recent reports have suggested that the New York Jets and All-Pro safety Jamal Adams have seen their relationship damaged and it might not be repaired. After nearly trading him to the Dallas Cowboys last season, the Jets are now refusing to give into Adams demands on a new deal, preferring to sign him in 2021 rather than now.

                          Adams' frustration has led to a belief that the team is going to have to move on and the reported asking price (according to New York writer Gary Myers) is a first and third-round pick. Adams has insisted he wants to play close to his hometown, which is what fueled the Dallas trade talks, but he apparently would consider other teams as well.

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                            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                            One huge but overlooked benefit of the Browns getting Adams would be pairing his mind with Delpit.    I LOVE watching JA play and when you listen to him when he is breaking down his film and what he was seeing pre/post snap in terms of formations, personnel, route concepts... it's really quite impressive.   The guy has one of the highest football IQ's in the NFL IMHO.      Bringing that type of knowledge and passing it along to our rookie Grant in year 1, aside from getting physically healthy,  would really be the next biggest thing to making him a potential DROY candidate. 

                            He would take DG under his wing and immediately make him a better football player.

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                              One huge but overlooked benefit of the Browns getting Adams would be pairing his mind with Delpit.    I LOVE watching JA play and when you listen to him when he is breaking down his film and what he was seeing pre/post snap in terms of formations, personnel, route concepts... it's really quite impressive.   The guy has one of the highest football IQ's in the NFL IMHO.      Bringing that type of knowledge and passing it along to our rookie Grant in year 1, aside from getting physically healthy,  would really be the next biggest thing to making him a potential DROY candidate. 

                              He would take DG under his wing and immediately make him a better football player.

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                              NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              One huge but overlooked benefit of the Browns getting Adams would be pairing his mind with Delpit.    I LOVE watching JA play and when you listen to him when he is breaking down his film and what he was seeing pre/post snap in terms of formations, personnel, route concepts... it's really quite impressive.   The guy has one of the highest football IQ's in the NFL IMHO.      Bringing that type of knowledge and passing it along to our rookie Grant in year 1, aside from getting physically healthy,  would really be the next biggest thing to making him a potential DROY candidate. 

                              He would take DG under his wing and immediately make him a better football player.

                              Nice video of Jamals commenting on his own film. 

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                And from the file of "for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction"...

                                https://dawgpounddaily.com/2020/05/24/cleveland-browns-should-pass-on-jamal-adams/

                                Bottom line reason is $$$ with big resignings just around the corner.

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