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  • I’m looking at receivers on day three i like what I read about Quez Watkins, crazy fast and long arms works for me as a base for a project 

  • What gets me about Phillips over Harrison isn't so much the local connection.   I see one who, when playing ILB, generated a ton of TFL's.  

    The other?  Not so much.

  • I like the guys from Fantasy Pros...pretty reasonable with their evaluations and unbiased. Of course, they have their favorites and they did like the MH over phillips. However, one interesting thing they said was that this is a projection pick. If Phillips would have stayed one more year as advised and learned pass coverage a little better, he's a for sure 1st rounder. He won't get on the field a ton this year, but next year, he could be really good. They graded the pick as a B.

    I would hold true to that evaluation. Even Berry has admitted that not all draft picks and rookies are great when they enter the league and they are not going to draft based on them helping this year. The theme of this draft is clearly potential. They are drafting for the future and not necessarily for immediate production. I can't say one is right or wrong but it's pretty obvious they are playing for upside.

    Honestly, solid draft. I would say they are drafting in the top portion of the league. Unfortunately, I love what the Ravens and Bengals are doing as well. At least they aren't packers draft!!

  • I like the guys from Fantasy Pros...pretty reasonable with their evaluations and unbiased. Of course, they have their favorites and they did like the MH over phillips. However, one interesting thing they said was that this is a projection pick. If Phillips would have stayed one more year as advised and learned pass coverage a little better, he's a for sure 1st rounder. He won't get on the field a ton this year, but next year, he could be really good. They graded the pick as a B.

    I would hold true to that evaluation. Even Berry has admitted that not all draft picks and rookies are great when they enter the league and they are not going to draft based on them helping this year. The theme of this draft is clearly potential. They are drafting for the future and not necessarily for immediate production. I can't say one is right or wrong but it's pretty obvious they are playing for upside.

    Honestly, solid draft. I would say they are drafting in the top portion of the league. Unfortunately, I love what the Ravens and Bengals are doing as well. At least they aren't packers draft!!

    @bigalow80 said:

    I like the guys from Fantasy Pros...pretty reasonable with their evaluations and unbiased. Of course, they have their favorites and they did like the MH over phillips. However, one interesting thing they said was that this is a projection pick. If Phillips would have stayed one more year as advised and learned pass coverage a little better, he's a for sure 1st rounder. He won't get on the field a ton this year, but next year, he could be really good. They graded the pick as a B.

    I would hold true to that evaluation. Even Berry has admitted that not all draft picks and rookies are great when they enter the league and they are not going to draft based on them helping this year. The theme of this draft is clearly potential. They are drafting for the future and not necessarily for immediate production. I can't say one is right or wrong but it's pretty obvious they are playing for upside.

    Honestly, solid draft. I would say they are drafting in the top portion of the league. Unfortunately, I love what the Ravens and Bengals are doing as well. At least they aren't packers draft!!

    But....we need that production this year.   I don't think that the Browns should be considering "Red-shirting"  any of the players they take in the first 3 rounds.   Rounds 5,6,7....maybe.  But not these early rounds.   Not when we could seriously need players at some of these positions to contribute right away.....especially at LB

  • I like the guys from Fantasy Pros...pretty reasonable with their evaluations and unbiased. Of course, they have their favorites and they did like the MH over phillips. However, one interesting thing they said was that this is a projection pick. If Phillips would have stayed one more year as advised and learned pass coverage a little better, he's a for sure 1st rounder. He won't get on the field a ton this year, but next year, he could be really good. They graded the pick as a B.

    I would hold true to that evaluation. Even Berry has admitted that not all draft picks and rookies are great when they enter the league and they are not going to draft based on them helping this year. The theme of this draft is clearly potential. They are drafting for the future and not necessarily for immediate production. I can't say one is right or wrong but it's pretty obvious they are playing for upside.

    Honestly, solid draft. I would say they are drafting in the top portion of the league. Unfortunately, I love what the Ravens and Bengals are doing as well. At least they aren't packers draft!!

    @bigalow80 said:

    If Phillips would have stayed one more year as advised and learned pass coverage a little better, he's a for sure 1st rounder. He won't get on the field a ton this year, but next year, he could be really good.

    To be clear, I'm not used to having to wait all the way to our 3rd round compensatory to find the first "WTF" pick..

    Harrison was recruited to OSU as an athlete/wide receiver.. His athleticism is obviously miles ahead of nearly every LB.  And he's 20 pounds heavier than Phillips.  Yes, Phillips has straight-line speed -- but Harrison had the quickest LB 3-cone at the combine [and only one DL beat him].

    If we're going to draft someone who has to get better at a task requiring athleticism.. I don't understand [and can't support] picking the guy who's less athletic. Phillips needs to get better at pass coverage which obviously requires tools he may not physically possess.. and Harrison needs to get better at.. what, exactly?

  • What gets me about Phillips over Harrison isn't so much the local connection.   I see one who, when playing ILB, generated a ton of TFL's.  

    The other?  Not so much.

    @tiamat63 said:

    What gets me about Phillips over Harrison isn't so much the local connection.   I see one who, when playing ILB, generated a ton of TFL's.  

    The other?  Not so much.

    I think he got action redirected to him Hamilton and Chase Young did their part.  Still a credit to him he was very instinctive.  Hamilton is gonna shine as will Harrison we will look back in 3-4 years and say how in the world did OSU not win a National Championship in 19!!!

    To me the huge difference Harrison is elite in coverage.  That’s what I don’t see in Phillips at all.  He might be below average there too.  The way the game is trending backers have to be just as good if not better in that facet. 

  • @orion said:

    London, I'm certain that you posted interesting stuff...but I can't read a word of it....it's waaayyy too small.

    I know - if you click on it, it will get ...near...full screen.... still it would be easier if I went and got my reading glasses....

    @calfoxwc said:

    I know - if you click on it, it will get ...near...full screen.... still it would be easier if I went and got my reading glasses....

    It doesn’t get any larger for me if I click on it.  It just gets its own screen.

  • "... so many of these players have been unable to have been scouted."

    Awkward grammar aside... I could have sworn there was a 2019 FBS season.

  • London, I'm certain that you posted interesting stuff...but I can't read a word of it....it's waaayyy too small.

    @orion said:

    London, I'm certain that you posted interesting stuff...but I can't read a word of it....it's waaayyy too small.

    "Ctrl +"... 🙂

  • "... so many of these players have been unable to have been scouted."

    Awkward grammar aside... I could have sworn there was a 2019 FBS season.

    @tour2ma said:

    "... so many of these players have been unable to have been scouted."

    Awkward grammar aside... I could have sworn there was a 2019 FBS season.

    The unofficial official NFL unpaid minor leagues.  Good training ground and judge of talent like how many P5 4 and 5 star players make it to an NFL roster.

    I love college football, always have.....but now it is really semipro football.