Donovan Peoples-Jones
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back in the day, my cousin ran motorcross, had some pretty back wrecks, a couple were caused by other riders. I didn't care for it - he ended up with a few months of recovery - so I stayed with enduroes - 2.5 hrs of riding down dry or whte water creek beds down mountains, through miles of woods...down rail road ties with no rails, through giant mudholes, through flooded dirt roads, etc etc.
I know, because I was riding way too fast on a mountain ridge in Virginia, trying to catch up with my cousin, but someone had wrecked and tore down the red warning ribbon. So, splashing through mountain laurel blooms, no warning ribbon, I went off a mountain ridge and hit a tree about ten feet on the ground.
Sprained by back pretty bad, the bike landed on me - not one tree had any sympathy for me, so pretending to be hurt wouldn't have worked anyways. I never could get the bike off me til a clean up crew of two riders came by up the mountain, saw the ribbon gone, and searched for me. I actually had to ride about six miles to a dirt road, and I don't remember how far down the dirt road back to the start.
And, I was in the Air Force, and had to drive back to Ohio to be at work the next morning. I made it.
and THAT was more fun than soccer.
You get banged up enough without pretended to be hurt. And usually, you are miles from the nearest other human being, so pretending wouldn't do any good anyways. LOL
Soccer is like no-ice hockey - I just don't appreciate it. It's boring and/or aggravating most of the time. Unless it's watching kids play - that is fun.
Fishing and not catching anything because a cold front is coming in, and the wind keeps grabbing at your canoe...
that is really far more exciting than soccer. Just my opinion.
Football is special. Controlled team play from snaps of the ball, a war of 11 on 11, or in the case of playing the squeelers, 11 on 11+1 squeeler fan referee. lol
Someone else gets it! So cool. I was oh so close to making it big time in supercross/motocross, but in the end, I just wasn't talented enough and I didn't work near hard enough to over come it. We're talking '84 here, so no coaches or internet to help show me the way and since I was the fastest in my area, no one to chase to push my undisciplined 17yr old self during the week.
Man, I'm glad I know that you've ridden and raced, and it was great talking about a real sport on this thread!
Someone else gets it! So cool. I was oh so close to making it big time in supercross/motocross, but in the end, I just wasn't talented enough and I didn't work near hard enough to over come it. We're talking '84 here, so no coaches or internet to help show me the way and since I was the fastest in my area, no one to chase to push my undisciplined 17yr old self during the week.
Man, I'm glad I know that you've ridden and raced, and it was great talking about a real sport on this thread!
I was no good at motorcross - I'd been around the track - it was my version of dangerous skydiving - except skydiving I never did because... well... the wreck if you have one is way too violent for me. I rode my suzuki 250... and my cousin's Penton handled so much better.
Still, I had had enough of having a bad knee all my life - I didn't want to wreck the rest of me. I ran a hare scramble once - it was like a low budget slower motorcross, lol, I wrecked once, but finished strong...and a pretty gal gave me a picture of me up in the air on the biggest jump...later on at the next enduro. It was her hobby - her boyfriend ran motorcross too.
I saw how dang high I was, and quit that too. I loved fast trail riding - I rose to the level of my competence and stayed non-back injured.
My cousin won a bet once - a friend bet him he couldn't ride his street honda 750 around the motorcross track. He did. 50 bucks. lol
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"The biggest concern with Peoples-Jones at the next level is how consistently he can beat press coverage and if he has enough quick-twitch qualities to be a consistent separator."
This is what concerns me the most. You can teach a guy to run better routes and maybe show him some technical things to beat a press cover or to help him potentially get open. But if a guy can't fake out a defender I have never heard of that skill-set being taught so that he suddenly learns how to do it. If the quickness (as opposed to speed) and twitch isn't there it ain't going to grow on him.
That isn't to say he won't be a good 3rd receiver. He reminds me in a way of Antonio Callaway. I thought Callaway's twitch and ability to get a step through deception was bad. But his speed was very good and, importantly, his quickness, was very good. I could be wrong but I don't see quickness in DP-J's route-running, and the analysis confirms this. But where he will be better than Callaway is his size and his ability to fight and come down with the ball, which is fantastic. So he will be a capable 3rd receiver, imo.
Which brings up a question. Has anyone heard what the hell Higgins did that put him in 2 Browns' FO doghouses?
This is what concerns me the most.
If the quickness (as opposed to speed) and twitch isn't there it ain't going to grow on him.
My favorite quote from his NFL.com draft profile:
"Play speed is very gradual and non-threatening"
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This is what concerns me the most.
If the quickness (as opposed to speed) and twitch isn't there it ain't going to grow on him.
My favorite quote from his NFL.com draft profile:
"Play speed is very gradual and non-threatening"
My favorite quote from his NFL.com draft profile:
"Play speed is very gradual and non-threatening"
Watching his highlights, to me he looks more like a long stride fast runner, than a sprinter. I mean, it looks like he has a nice top speed, but he doesn't reach it as fast as other players (and THAT is a threatening trait).
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My favorite quote from his NFL.com draft profile:
"Play speed is very gradual and non-threatening"
Watching his highlights, to me he looks more like a long stride fast runner, than a sprinter. I mean, it looks like he has a nice top speed, but he doesn't reach it as fast as other players (and THAT is a threatening trait).
Watching his highlights, to me he looks more like a long stride fast runner, than a sprinter. I mean, it looks like he has a nice top speed, but he doesn't reach it as fast as other players (and THAT is a threatening trait).
Which is interesting, given his broad and vert, you'd think he'd be pretty explosive. May be a route running technique thing.
I don't think he could have a better WR room to be in though with Jarvis and Odell (maybe one with Fitz haha)
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Watching his highlights, to me he looks more like a long stride fast runner, than a sprinter. I mean, it looks like he has a nice top speed, but he doesn't reach it as fast as other players (and THAT is a threatening trait).
Which is interesting, given his broad and vert, you'd think he'd be pretty explosive. May be a route running technique thing.
I don't think he could have a better WR room to be in though with Jarvis and Odell (maybe one with Fitz haha)
Which is interesting, given his broad and vert, you'd think he'd be pretty explosive. May be a route running technique thing.
I don't think he could have a better WR room to be in though with Jarvis and Odell (maybe one with Fitz haha)
It is interesting, but maybe those skills are not corelated. Back to soccer, Messi in his prime I would say had one of the fastest 0 to 100 sprint in soccer, and height doesn't help but I wouldn't say he has the best broad and vert ever.
DPJ is now a Brown so let's hope he earns his spot and contributes. He definitely has a nice WR room to look up to and at the same time joining such a couple must instantly make you more humble on your skills lol. -
Which is interesting, given his broad and vert, you'd think he'd be pretty explosive. May be a route running technique thing.
I don't think he could have a better WR room to be in though with Jarvis and Odell (maybe one with Fitz haha)
It is interesting, but maybe those skills are not corelated. Back to soccer, Messi in his prime I would say had one of the fastest 0 to 100 sprint in soccer, and height doesn't help but I wouldn't say he has the best broad and vert ever.
DPJ is now a Brown so let's hope he earns his spot and contributes. He definitely has a nice WR room to look up to and at the same time joining such a couple must instantly make you more humble on your skills lol.It is interesting, but maybe those skills are not corelated. Back to soccer, Messi in his prime I would say had one of the fastest 0 to 100 sprint in soccer, and height doesn't help but I wouldn't say he has the best broad and vert ever.
DPJ is now a Brown so let's hope he earns his spot and contributes. He definitely has a nice WR room to look up to and at the same time joining such a couple must instantly make you more humble on your skills lol.Small stride length can help build acceleration quickly. I deal with it playing soccer myself. At 6'4" it takes me longer to get going that someone that's 5'9", but once I have my strides going I can match (generally speaking)
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
https://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx
The 9% of Americans who mention baseball as their favorite sport to watch is the lowest percentage for the sport since Gallup first asked the question in 1937
The Associated Press reported on Thursday that the average attendance for MLB games this season is 26,854 through Wednesday. That marks a 1.4 percent drop from last year’s tally of 27,242 at the same point of the season.
2018 was the first season since 2003 that average attendance for MLB games dropped below 30,000, according to AP.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-sports-with-the-oldest-and-youngest-tv-audiences-2017-06-30
Major League Baseball’s television audience is among the oldest in professional sports, according to data recently released by Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal and Magna Global. The average age of a baseball viewer is 57, up from 52 in 2006. There won’t be a youth movement, either, as just 7% of baseball’s audience is below age 18.
All sports have aging viewers, as the country is aging, but MLB is the oldest major sport and outpacing the age growth rate. MLS on the other hand is among the youngest.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
It is interesting, but maybe those skills are not corelated. Back to soccer, Messi in his prime I would say had one of the fastest 0 to 100 sprint in soccer, and height doesn't help but I wouldn't say he has the best broad and vert ever.
DPJ is now a Brown so let's hope he earns his spot and contributes. He definitely has a nice WR room to look up to and at the same time joining such a couple must instantly make you more humble on your skills lol.Small stride length can help build acceleration quickly. I deal with it playing soccer myself. At 6'4" it takes me longer to get going that someone that's 5'9", but once I have my strides going I can match (generally speaking)
Small stride length can help build acceleration quickly. I deal with it playing soccer myself. At 6'4" it takes me longer to get going that someone that's 5'9", but once I have my strides going I can match (generally speaking)
6'4"? Fuck me. I'm glad that I have never said any real hurtful thing about TTUN and I have the Atlantic Ocean between us. Striker, defender? Don't tell me you play midfield.
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Small stride length can help build acceleration quickly. I deal with it playing soccer myself. At 6'4" it takes me longer to get going that someone that's 5'9", but once I have my strides going I can match (generally speaking)
6'4"? Fuck me. I'm glad that I have never said any real hurtful thing about TTUN and I have the Atlantic Ocean between us. Striker, defender? Don't tell me you play midfield.
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx
The 9% of Americans who mention baseball as their favorite sport to watch is the lowest percentage for the sport since Gallup first asked the question in 1937
The Associated Press reported on Thursday that the average attendance for MLB games this season is 26,854 through Wednesday. That marks a 1.4 percent drop from last year’s tally of 27,242 at the same point of the season.
2018 was the first season since 2003 that average attendance for MLB games dropped below 30,000, according to AP.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-sports-with-the-oldest-and-youngest-tv-audiences-2017-06-30
Major League Baseball’s television audience is among the oldest in professional sports, according to data recently released by Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal and Magna Global. The average age of a baseball viewer is 57, up from 52 in 2006. There won’t be a youth movement, either, as just 7% of baseball’s audience is below age 18.
All sports have aging viewers, as the country is aging, but MLB is the oldest major sport and outpacing the age growth rate. MLS on the other hand is among the youngest.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx
The 9% of Americans who mention baseball as their favorite sport to watch is the lowest percentage for the sport since Gallup first asked the question in 1937
The Associated Press reported on Thursday that the average attendance for MLB games this season is 26,854 through Wednesday. That marks a 1.4 percent drop from last year’s tally of 27,242 at the same point of the season.
2018 was the first season since 2003 that average attendance for MLB games dropped below 30,000, according to AP.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-sports-with-the-oldest-and-youngest-tv-audiences-2017-06-30
Major League Baseball’s television audience is among the oldest in professional sports, according to data recently released by Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal and Magna Global. The average age of a baseball viewer is 57, up from 52 in 2006. There won’t be a youth movement, either, as just 7% of baseball’s audience is below age 18.
All sports have aging viewers, as the country is aging, but MLB is the oldest major sport and outpacing the age growth rate. MLS on the other hand is among the youngest.
Don't confuse Gipper with facts Woody....
All his stuff is opinionated rubbish.... The above is real world. Which he's not living in- at least when it comes to baseball...
I'd be interested in seeing a poll what sport the under 18 crowd favors, when they're not playing video games....
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Small stride length can help build acceleration quickly. I deal with it playing soccer myself. At 6'4" it takes me longer to get going that someone that's 5'9", but once I have my strides going I can match (generally speaking)
6'4"? Fuck me. I'm glad that I have never said any real hurtful thing about TTUN and I have the Atlantic Ocean between us. Striker, defender? Don't tell me you play midfield.
6'4"? Fuck me. I'm glad that I have never said any real hurtful thing about TTUN and I have the Atlantic Ocean between us. Striker, defender? Don't tell me you play midfield.
Centerback and I've picked up goalie the last few years. When your wingspan covers the indoor goal, or you can dive out in front of someone and block 8', you're good lol. But most of my life before that is winning headers and bodying little guys.
I don't have the endurance for midfield. Asthma is a bitch.
No striker. I enjoy shutting other people down more than I enjoy scoring, honestly.
How about you?
Oh and I'm just soccer big. Not big big haha.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
My favorite quote from his NFL.com draft profile:
"Play speed is very gradual and non-threatening"
Watching his highlights, to me he looks more like a long stride fast runner, than a sprinter. I mean, it looks like he has a nice top speed, but he doesn't reach it as fast as other players (and THAT is a threatening trait).
Watching his highlights, to me he looks more like a long stride fast runner, than a sprinter. I mean, it looks like he has a nice top speed, but he doesn't reach it as fast as other players (and THAT is a threatening trait).
Which is what was amazing about Josh Gordon. The guy had both long strides and was quick with them. If you look closely at his breaks he could break a defender's ankles by using his long strides, he didn't have to take shorter, quick steps to change direction.
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx
The 9% of Americans who mention baseball as their favorite sport to watch is the lowest percentage for the sport since Gallup first asked the question in 1937
The Associated Press reported on Thursday that the average attendance for MLB games this season is 26,854 through Wednesday. That marks a 1.4 percent drop from last year’s tally of 27,242 at the same point of the season.
2018 was the first season since 2003 that average attendance for MLB games dropped below 30,000, according to AP.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-sports-with-the-oldest-and-youngest-tv-audiences-2017-06-30
Major League Baseball’s television audience is among the oldest in professional sports, according to data recently released by Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal and Magna Global. The average age of a baseball viewer is 57, up from 52 in 2006. There won’t be a youth movement, either, as just 7% of baseball’s audience is below age 18.
All sports have aging viewers, as the country is aging, but MLB is the oldest major sport and outpacing the age growth rate. MLS on the other hand is among the youngest.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx
The 9% of Americans who mention baseball as their favorite sport to watch is the lowest percentage for the sport since Gallup first asked the question in 1937
The Associated Press reported on Thursday that the average attendance for MLB games this season is 26,854 through Wednesday. That marks a 1.4 percent drop from last year’s tally of 27,242 at the same point of the season.
2018 was the first season since 2003 that average attendance for MLB games dropped below 30,000, according to AP.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-sports-with-the-oldest-and-youngest-tv-audiences-2017-06-30
Major League Baseball’s television audience is among the oldest in professional sports, according to data recently released by Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal and Magna Global. The average age of a baseball viewer is 57, up from 52 in 2006. There won’t be a youth movement, either, as just 7% of baseball’s audience is below age 18.
All sports have aging viewers, as the country is aging, but MLB is the oldest major sport and outpacing the age growth rate. MLS on the other hand is among the youngest.
Still 10 times the audience That soccer has
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx
The 9% of Americans who mention baseball as their favorite sport to watch is the lowest percentage for the sport since Gallup first asked the question in 1937
The Associated Press reported on Thursday that the average attendance for MLB games this season is 26,854 through Wednesday. That marks a 1.4 percent drop from last year’s tally of 27,242 at the same point of the season.
2018 was the first season since 2003 that average attendance for MLB games dropped below 30,000, according to AP.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-sports-with-the-oldest-and-youngest-tv-audiences-2017-06-30
Major League Baseball’s television audience is among the oldest in professional sports, according to data recently released by Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal and Magna Global. The average age of a baseball viewer is 57, up from 52 in 2006. There won’t be a youth movement, either, as just 7% of baseball’s audience is below age 18.
All sports have aging viewers, as the country is aging, but MLB is the oldest major sport and outpacing the age growth rate. MLS on the other hand is among the youngest.
Still 10 times the audience That soccer has
Still 10 times the audience That soccer has
Not at all the point I was making. But by going to this I realize you're admitting you're wrong in the only way you know how. I'll take it.
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6'4"? Fuck me. I'm glad that I have never said any real hurtful thing about TTUN and I have the Atlantic Ocean between us. Striker, defender? Don't tell me you play midfield.
Centerback and I've picked up goalie the last few years. When your wingspan covers the indoor goal, or you can dive out in front of someone and block 8', you're good lol. But most of my life before that is winning headers and bodying little guys.
I don't have the endurance for midfield. Asthma is a bitch.
No striker. I enjoy shutting other people down more than I enjoy scoring, honestly.
How about you?
Oh and I'm just soccer big. Not big big haha.
Centerback and I've picked up goalie the last few years. When your wingspan covers the indoor goal, or you can dive out in front of someone and block 8', you're good lol. But most of my life before that is winning headers and bodying little guys.
I don't have the endurance for midfield. Asthma is a bitch.
No striker. I enjoy shutting other people down more than I enjoy scoring, honestly.
How about you?
Oh and I'm just soccer big. Not big big haha.
Goalie with 6' 4'' is great. I had asthma when I was a kid but never more after puberty.
I'm really bad at soccer, so in normal soccer I would play defender (haven't played in ages), I enjoyed shutting people down. Now for some years I've only played futsal and I play as a striker simply because I'm not either phisically or technically good so there's where less harmful I can be for my team: in futsal you have to sprint constantly and is way different to soccer, with more technique and moving around. I fight, I try to not make mistakes, I cheer and that's about it.
And yeah, I'd say you're soccer big. Not only in Spain we have less average height than in the US (I'm 5'9'' myself), but I don't see many people at 6'4'' or taller playing soccer unless they are centerback, goalie or a striker. I only recall Ibrahimovic being a very agile at 6'5'', but from that point onwards most of the people are "clunky" for soccer.
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Centerback and I've picked up goalie the last few years. When your wingspan covers the indoor goal, or you can dive out in front of someone and block 8', you're good lol. But most of my life before that is winning headers and bodying little guys.
I don't have the endurance for midfield. Asthma is a bitch.
No striker. I enjoy shutting other people down more than I enjoy scoring, honestly.
How about you?
Oh and I'm just soccer big. Not big big haha.
Goalie with 6' 4'' is great. I had asthma when I was a kid but never more after puberty.
I'm really bad at soccer, so in normal soccer I would play defender (haven't played in ages), I enjoyed shutting people down. Now for some years I've only played futsal and I play as a striker simply because I'm not either phisically or technically good so there's where less harmful I can be for my team: in futsal you have to sprint constantly and is way different to soccer, with more technique and moving around. I fight, I try to not make mistakes, I cheer and that's about it.
And yeah, I'd say you're soccer big. Not only in Spain we have less average height than in the US (I'm 5'9'' myself), but I don't see many people at 6'4'' or taller playing soccer unless they are centerback, goalie or a striker. I only recall Ibrahimovic being a very agile at 6'5'', but from that point onwards most of the people are "clunky" for soccer.
Goalie with 6' 4'' is great. I had asthma when I was a kid but never more after puberty.
I'm really bad at soccer, so in normal soccer I would play defender (haven't played in ages), I enjoyed shutting people down. Now for some years I've only played futsal and I play as a striker simply because I'm not either phisically or technically good so there's where less harmful I can be for my team: in futsal you have to sprint constantly and is way different to soccer, with more technique and moving around. I fight, I try to not make mistakes, I cheer and that's about it.
And yeah, I'd say you're soccer big. Not only in Spain we have less average height than in the US (I'm 5'9'' myself), but I don't see many people at 6'4'' or taller playing soccer unless they are centerback, goalie or a striker. I only recall Ibrahimovic being a very agile at 6'5'', but from that point onwards most of the people are "clunky" for soccer.
My favorite player growing up was Oguchi Onyewu. Big ass centerback. Played on the US team.
Also, I'm terrible at futsal. The less players on the field the worse I get as a field player (but better I get at goalie haha).
I'd also imagine the Spanish version of "really bad at soccer" is still above average in the States haha.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
What makes a "really bad soccer player"?
Someone confused how to jog around a big field at a medium pace aimlessly and struggling to eat orange slices one of the mom's brought after the game?
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It is interesting, but maybe those skills are not corelated. Back to soccer, Messi in his prime I would say had one of the fastest 0 to 100 sprint in soccer, and height doesn't help but I wouldn't say he has the best broad and vert ever.
DPJ is now a Brown so let's hope he earns his spot and contributes. He definitely has a nice WR room to look up to and at the same time joining such a couple must instantly make you more humble on your skills lol.Small stride length can help build acceleration quickly. I deal with it playing soccer myself. At 6'4" it takes me longer to get going that someone that's 5'9", but once I have my strides going I can match (generally speaking)
Small stride length can help build acceleration quickly.
Short stride helps control, but it's really the rate of increase of "turnover rate" or cycles per second that defines acceleration... literally.
The one thing a short stride does do is keep a runner from fighting his own momentum whether accelerating or at top speed.
I never had a coach tell me this until Sam Mussabini did.
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx
The 9% of Americans who mention baseball as their favorite sport to watch is the lowest percentage for the sport since Gallup first asked the question in 1937
The Associated Press reported on Thursday that the average attendance for MLB games this season is 26,854 through Wednesday. That marks a 1.4 percent drop from last year’s tally of 27,242 at the same point of the season.
2018 was the first season since 2003 that average attendance for MLB games dropped below 30,000, according to AP.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-sports-with-the-oldest-and-youngest-tv-audiences-2017-06-30
Major League Baseball’s television audience is among the oldest in professional sports, according to data recently released by Street & Smith’s Sports Business Journal and Magna Global. The average age of a baseball viewer is 57, up from 52 in 2006. There won’t be a youth movement, either, as just 7% of baseball’s audience is below age 18.
All sports have aging viewers, as the country is aging, but MLB is the oldest major sport and outpacing the age growth rate. MLS on the other hand is among the youngest.
Don't confuse Gipper with facts Woody....
All his stuff is opinionated rubbish.... The above is real world. Which he's not living in- at least when it comes to baseball...
I'd be interested in seeing a poll what sport the under 18 crowd favors, when they're not playing video games....
Don't confuse Gipper with facts Woody....
All his stuff is opinionated rubbish....
EVRERYTHING you say about fucking soccer is opinionated Rubbish.
The above is real world. Which he's not living in- at least when it comes to baseball...
The average attendance for baseball game
Not at all the point I was making. But by going to this I realize you're admitting you're wrong in the only way you know how. I'll take it.
Not at all the point I was making. But by going to this I realize you're admitting you're wrong in the only way you know how. I'll take it.
Right...your point is no point at all.
Average attendance at 34 soccer games like 21,000. Average baseball attendence for a game where they play 162 games was over 28,000. Both sports actually had declines in attendance in 2019......except Soccer had a bigger percentage of decline. (baseball problem with this decline was primarily attributable to the Miami two Florida market. TB and Miami. It just is not working there for some reason, though you would think it would because of the big Hispanic population)
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I will say without reservation that no Cleveland sports player ever had Cleveland sports fans back like a former TTUN player...
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2015/11/why_steve_everitt_and_cleveland_browns_fans.html
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