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  • I believe that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows.

    But seriously as much as I would like to believe it I probably agree more with Gorka

    WSS

  • I believe that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows.

    But seriously as much as I would like to believe it I probably agree more with Gorka

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I believe that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows.

    But seriously as much as I would like to believe it I probably agree more with Gorka

    WSS

    That'd be a lot of flowers!

    There are certainly many many good people. I just don't believe goodness is an inherited human trait.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I believe that most people are inherently good. 
     

    Disagree sorta. I think I would change that to "I believe most people want to be good".

    Liberals believe that people are inherently good.

    When people do bad things it's societies fault, someone else made them do it, someone else needs to pay. Accountability and responsibility for one's actions goes out the window. It's the schools fault their kids are rotten.

    If people were inherently good, then there would be no need for laws.

    People are inherently bad. When you are born you do not inherent goodness. You must be taught to share, and not to hit other children. You must be taught to understand that you cant have your way all the time. No temper tantrums.  Wanting to do bad continues through the teenage years. As a mature adult you have to work at being good. You must resist urges to being greedy, cheating, stealing stuff from work,  wanting to slap a fucking libtard in the face. That's human nature, therefore being bad is inherent to humans. For some people working at being good comes easier than others. For some it's not work at all. Hence "I believe most people want to be good".

    @gorka said:

    You must resist urges to being greedy, cheating, stealing stuff from work,  wanting to slap a fucking libtard in the face. 

    What a saint.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I believe that you copied and pasted this from somewhere.  Thats what I believe.

    Nothing gets past you does it DickHead?

    @gorka said:

    Nothing gets past you does it DickHead?

    I'm in Gorka's head.  He stalks every post I make.  Calm down Gorka.   Trumpy will make it all go away.

  • @westside-steve said:

    I believe that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows.

    But seriously as much as I would like to believe it I probably agree more with Gorka

    WSS

    That'd be a lot of flowers!

    There are certainly many many good people. I just don't believe goodness is an inherited human trait.

    @gorka said:

    That'd be a lot of flowers!

    There are certainly many many good people. I just don't believe goodness is an inherited human trait.

    In so many cases I don't think it's really Good vs Evil even though I think that exists. If I let myself get too philosophical about it it occurs to me that if a wolf eats a sheep it's not evil it's just the way it is. 

    And just naturally given the choice people will start to drift into the path of least resistance. Unfortunately that's an easy hook for the politicians preach "hey it's not your fault it's that other guy's fault you aren't successful. Or happy. Or WTF ever."

    WSS

  • @gorka said:

    Nothing gets past you does it DickHead?

    I'm in Gorka's head.  He stalks every post I make.  Calm down Gorka.   Trumpy will make it all go away.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm in Gorka's head.  He stalks every post I make.  Calm down Gorka.   Trumpy will make it all go away.

    Right the "stalking" card again. Your posts are as plain as day stupid and out in the open for all to see

    You're asking to get punked idiot.

    Now go stalk JABF. He's in your head.

  • @gorka said:

    You must resist urges to being greedy, cheating, stealing stuff from work,  wanting to slap a fucking libtard in the face. 

    What a saint.

    @tiamat63 said:

    What a saint.

    Wrong. That goes to show you that no one is inherently good, not even good ol me.. Haven't you learned a fucking thing from that post?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What a saint.

    Wrong. That goes to show you that no one is inherently good, not even good ol me.. Haven't you learned a fucking thing from that post?

    @gorka said:

    Wrong. That goes to show you that no one is inherently good, even good ol me.. Haven't you learned a fucking thing from that post?

    Yes, that you're a wanna-be hard ass idiot who can't pickup clear sarcasm.

    The worst part, I'm not even in total disagreement with your musings.   The difference between you and I (aside from probably quite a bit) is your ostentatious nature and posting style.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm in Gorka's head.  He stalks every post I make.  Calm down Gorka.   Trumpy will make it all go away.

    Right the "stalking" card again. Your posts are as plain as day stupid and out in the open for all to see

    You're asking to get punked idiot.

    Now go stalk JABF. He's in your head.

    @gorka said:

    Right the "stalking" card again. Your posts are as plain as day stupid and out in the open for all to see

    You're asking to get punked idiot.

    Now go stalk JABF. He's in your head.

    stalker.

  • @gorka said:

    Wrong. That goes to show you that no one is inherently good, even good ol me.. Haven't you learned a fucking thing from that post?

    Yes, that you're a wanna-be hard ass idiot who can't pickup clear sarcasm.

    The worst part, I'm not even in total disagreement with your musings.   The difference between you and I (aside from probably quite a bit) is your ostentatious nature and posting style.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Yes, that you're a wanna-be hard ass idiot who can't pickup clear sarcasm.

    The worst part, I'm not even in total disagreement with your musings.   The difference between you and I (aside from probably quite a bit) is your ostentatious nature and posting style.

    LOL...was that sarcasm too?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Yes, that you're a wanna-be hard ass idiot who can't pickup clear sarcasm.

    The worst part, I'm not even in total disagreement with your musings.   The difference between you and I (aside from probably quite a bit) is your ostentatious nature and posting style.

    LOL...was that sarcasm too?

    @gorka said:

    LOL...was that sarcasm too?

    Well at least you were looking for it this time.    

  • @gorka said:

    LOL...was that sarcasm too?

    Well at least you were looking for it this time.    

    @tiamat63 said:

    Well at least you were looking for it this time.    

    Just remember one thing, sarcasm doesn't give you a pass. Much of the time it is an expression of your bitterness.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I believe that most people are inherently good. 
     

    Disagree sorta. I think I would change that to "I believe most people want to be good".

    Liberals believe that people are inherently good.

    When people do bad things it's societies fault, someone else made them do it, someone else needs to pay. Accountability and responsibility for one's actions goes out the window. It's the schools fault their kids are rotten.

    If people were inherently good, then there would be no need for laws.

    People are inherently bad. When you are born you do not inherent goodness. You must be taught to share, and not to hit other children. You must be taught to understand that you cant have your way all the time. No temper tantrums.  Wanting to do bad continues through the teenage years. As a mature adult you have to work at being good. You must resist urges to being greedy, cheating, stealing stuff from work,  wanting to slap a fucking libtard in the face. That's human nature, therefore being bad is inherent to humans. For some people working at being good comes easier than others. For some it's not work at all. Hence "I believe most people want to be good".

    @gorka said:

    Disagree sorta. I think I would change that to "I believe most people want to be good".

    Liberals believe that people are inherently good.

    When people do bad things it's societies fault, someone else made them do it, someone else needs to pay. Accountability and responsibility for one's actions goes out the window. It's the schools fault their kids are rotten.

    If people were inherently good, then there would be no need for laws.

    People are inherently bad. When you are born you do not inherent goodness. You must be taught to share, and not to hit other children. You must be taught to understand that you cant have your way all the time. No temper tantrums.  Wanting to do bad continues through the teenage years. As a mature adult you have to work at being good. You must resist urges to being greedy, cheating, stealing stuff from work,  wanting to slap a fucking libtard in the face. That's human nature, therefore being bad is inherent to humans. For some people working at being good comes easier than others. For some it's not work at all. Hence "I believe most people want to be good".

    Actually, I disagree with that one too, except I didn't have time to elaborate on any of the points. lol

    Most people I meet are good people, I think. Except there is the bad side. I would change it to

    "Most people CAN BE GOOD people".

    Sadly, some choose to be bad. They do bad things because they thrive on emotion - the joy of getting their way, controlling, or just immediate gratification. Being bad obviously isn't a constructive choice - it's a warped, sometimes dangerous emotional choice.

       And that brings us to the question - are all liberals bad? Do they all want to control? yep. Do they all turn a blind eye to corruption in their party?

    We see right now, the liberals ignore completely, the sexual assault charges levied against joe biden. They refuse to admit that they are far, far mor credible that the NOT credible charges levied by Ford in the Kavanaugh hearings. She had friends DISAGREE with her intentions. It's called - she's a political hack ideologue hater.

        The charges vs joe biden are from a fellow democrat who had idolized him and worked on his staff. He decided to dominate her for his own self-gratiification.

       Self-gratification is a hallmark ot liberals. That is why they emotional knee jerk most of the time.

    When ONLY emotions guide a person's actions - that is a BAD person.

    When a person has solid principles, like based on Biblical principles, or simple the highest honor and integrity - that is a GOOD PERSON.

      So, I don't believe all people are basically good. Nor do I think most of them are good.

    The left is filled with screwed up emotionally-based knee jerking bad people. across the board.

    They've chosen not bad or good - but emotions - and that sends them into bad behavior and stances.

    You see it everywhere. Emotionally based leftwing people hate God because God is greater than them - that makes them unhappy.

    Leftwing people hate guns - because they demand everyone be a victim of their society sooner than later.

    Leftwing people refuse to learn history - it might change their emotional track.

    Leftwing people hate everything that isn't like them - it threatens their (fake) feelings of superiority.

    They hate home schooling, Christianity, Real Marriage, ...etc etc.... because they HATE individual liberty and individual choices about life.

    They don't live life, they simply exist amid everyone else's lives, and make hateful comments on any subject because they aren't in control of everybody else.

    And they don't understand life, or freedom, or honor, or courage, or humor.

    They don't understand anything at all about life - only how they FEEL at any given time.

    Most of the time - they HATE out of envy of REAL AMERICA.

    Albeit rarely, a very few leftwing emotionally-based people sprout dull pink and purple feathers, and a numb nose, and they peck at everything in their sight.

    No, they have never been extinct. That's science for ya.

  • It's a great thing I can type so fast. lol

  • I believe you believe that

    @mld-woody said:

    I believe you believe that

    Just curious, besides God are there any others you don't agree with?

    WSS

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Well at least you were looking for it this time.    

    Just remember one thing, sarcasm doesn't give you a pass. Much of the time it is an expression of your bitterness.

    @gorka said:

    Just remember one thing, sarcasm doesn't give you a pass. Much of the time it is an expression of your bitterness.

    On the contrary, Oscar Wilde expresses sarcasm as an expression of the "highest form of intelligence". 

    And if you're into the idea of delving into social and intellectual constructs, both Harvard and Yale have published studies detailing their belief in the expression of sarcasm as a medium for true creativity.    Of course, sarcasm can also be low hanging and un-original fruit depending on the context of the rebuttal.  

  • @mld-woody said:

    I believe you believe that

    Just curious, besides God are there any others you don't agree with?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Just curious, besides God are there any others you don't agree with?

    WSS

    "I believe that true Americans love their country"

    That's loaded garbage. Acting like America is perfect at everything. Acting like there are "true" Americans. 

    You should be able to realize your country's faults and failures. Only then can you actually work to make it better. 

    If your head is stuck in the sand shouting "Merica#1" then you'll never improve the thing you say you love. 

    You can love something and realize it has flaws. 

  • @gorka said:

    Just remember one thing, sarcasm doesn't give you a pass. Much of the time it is an expression of your bitterness.

    On the contrary, Oscar Wilde expresses sarcasm as an expression of the "highest form of intelligence". 

    And if you're into the idea of delving into social and intellectual constructs, both Harvard and Yale have published studies detailing their belief in the expression of sarcasm as a medium for true creativity.    Of course, sarcasm can also be low hanging and un-original fruit depending on the context of the rebuttal.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    On the contrary, Oscar Wilde expresses sarcasm as an expression of the "highest form of intelligence". 

    And if you're into the idea of delving into social and intellectual constructs, both Harvard and Yale have published studies detailing their belief in the expression of sarcasm as a medium for true creativity.    Of course, sarcasm can also be low hanging and un-original fruit depending on the context of the rebuttal.  

    I can't dispute that. Sounds legit.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Just curious, besides God are there any others you don't agree with?

    WSS

    "I believe that true Americans love their country"

    That's loaded garbage. Acting like America is perfect at everything. Acting like there are "true" Americans. 

    You should be able to realize your country's faults and failures. Only then can you actually work to make it better. 

    If your head is stuck in the sand shouting "Merica#1" then you'll never improve the thing you say you love. 

    You can love something and realize it has flaws. 

    @mld-woody said:

    "I believe that true Americans love their country"

    That's loaded garbage. Acting like America is perfect at everything. Acting like there are "true" Americans. 

    You should be able to realize your country's faults and failures. Only then can you actually work to make it better. 

    If your head is stuck in the sand shouting "Merica#1" then you'll never improve the thing you say you love. 

    You can love something and realize it has flaws. 

    Yes you can Woody. Of course that would make the statement true. The caveat would be after the statement. Americans love their country. The caveat would be but they can also see places for improvement. Fair enough?

    WSS

  • @gorka said:

    That'd be a lot of flowers!

    There are certainly many many good people. I just don't believe goodness is an inherited human trait.

    In so many cases I don't think it's really Good vs Evil even though I think that exists. If I let myself get too philosophical about it it occurs to me that if a wolf eats a sheep it's not evil it's just the way it is. 

    And just naturally given the choice people will start to drift into the path of least resistance. Unfortunately that's an easy hook for the politicians preach "hey it's not your fault it's that other guy's fault you aren't successful. Or happy. Or WTF ever."

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    In so many cases I don't think it's really Good vs Evil even though I think that exists. If I let myself get too philosophical about it it occurs to me that if a wolf eats a sheep it's not evil it's just the way it is. 

    And just naturally given the choice people will start to drift into the path of least resistance. Unfortunately that's an easy hook for the politicians preach "hey it's not your fault it's that other guy's fault you aren't successful. Or happy. Or WTF ever."

    WSS

    We're starting to drift into religious  ground whether you believe people are  inherently "good" or "bad". I have my opinion, but I'm not about to share it.