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  • I Icecube

    @hoorta said:

    1) Another change to the CBA involves the NFL's drug policy. 

    2) The new CBA eliminates suspensions for positive marijuana tests. 

    3) The testing period has been limited to the first two weeks of training camp, and the threshold for a positive test has been raised from 35 to 150 nanograms of THC.

    The question Gipper is- if there's no suspension for a positive test, why are they even bothering testing for it?  Um, considering 9 teams are in states (or the Redskins DC) pretty hard to punish people where it's as legal as booze. Maybe it has to do with driving while buzzed?  

    That's what I mean, it's vague. And, just because a state makes it legal, I'm pretty sure companies can decide not to hire you if you test baked. I mean, if you can be fired for being drunk on the job...

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    @icecube said:

    That's what I mean, it's vague. And, just because a state makes it legal, I'm pretty sure companies can decide not to hire you if you test baked. I mean, if you can be fired for being drunk on the job...

    OK....but now THIS company...the NfL has decided that weed is not something that they will not hire you for, or fire you for. 

    I suppose if someone showed up for a game completely high....or drunk, or opioided out....they would just not play him.   What they would do beyond that, I don't know. 

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      @mjp28 said:

      Ahhhh it must be nearing football season......Flash Gordon is applying to play again.

      It is as ordinary as other yearly events like heat in summer and leaves falling in the fall. 

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      @nero said:

      It is as ordinary as other yearly events like heat in summer and leaves falling in the fall. 

      Yes I can almost hear John Facenda's voice from the old NFL Films voice over on the Sundays  "The Autumn Wind":

      The Autumn Wind is a pirate
      Blustering in from sea,
      With a rollicking song, he sweeps along,
      Swaggering boisterously.
      His face is weather beaten.
      He wears a hooded sash,
      With a silver hat about his head,
      And a bristling black mustache.

      With Josh Gordon's annual request

      to have yet another chance

      because he ran out of doobie money....  😆

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        @icecube said:

        That's what I mean, it's vague. And, just because a state makes it legal, I'm pretty sure companies can decide not to hire you if you test baked. I mean, if you can be fired for being drunk on the job...

        OK....but now THIS company...the NfL has decided that weed is not something that they will not hire you for, or fire you for. 

        I suppose if someone showed up for a game completely high....or drunk, or opioided out....they would just not play him.   What they would do beyond that, I don't know. 

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        @the-gipper said:

        OK....but now THIS company...the NfL has decided that weed is not something that they will not hire you for, or fire you for. 

        I suppose if someone showed up for a game completely high....or drunk, or opioided out....they would just not play him.   What they would do beyond that, I don't know. 

        All I'm saying is I don't really know. Obviously, they have brought punishment for weed way down, and seemingly won't suspend players for it. But have they stopped all testing, even for players like Josh? I don't know. We will see. They probably should just stop testing altogether. It's not like it's performance enhancing. Why should they even care?

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          @the-gipper said:

          OK....but now THIS company...the NfL has decided that weed is not something that they will not hire you for, or fire you for. 

          I suppose if someone showed up for a game completely high....or drunk, or opioided out....they would just not play him.   What they would do beyond that, I don't know. 

          All I'm saying is I don't really know. Obviously, they have brought punishment for weed way down, and seemingly won't suspend players for it. But have they stopped all testing, even for players like Josh? I don't know. We will see. They probably should just stop testing altogether. It's not like it's performance enhancing. Why should they even care?

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          @icecube said:

          All I'm saying is I don't really know. Obviously, they have brought punishment for weed way down, and seemingly won't suspend players for it. But have they stopped all testing, even for players like Josh? I don't know. We will see. They probably should just stop testing altogether. It's not like it's performance enhancing. Why should they even care?

          Yea,  don't know either.  Maybe someone does. 

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            @icecube said:

            That's what I mean, it's vague. And, just because a state makes it legal, I'm pretty sure companies can decide not to hire you if you test baked. I mean, if you can be fired for being drunk on the job...

            OK....but now THIS company...the NfL has decided that weed is not something that they will not hire you for, or fire you for. 

            I suppose if someone showed up for a game completely high....or drunk, or opioided out....they would just not play him.   What they would do beyond that, I don't know. 

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            @the-gipper said:

            OK....but now THIS company...the NfL has decided that weed is not something that they will not hire you for, or fire you for. 

            I suppose if someone showed up for a game completely high....or drunk, or opioided out....they would just not play him.   What they would do beyond that, I don't know. 

            This does present other problems and issues for the NFL.

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              Frank Zappa would not allow any drugs, weed, anything when they were in the studio.  Wanted everybody sharp.

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                Only way for him to come here would be on a one year “prove yourself” kind of deal..

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                @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                Only way for him to come here would be on a one year “prove yourself” kind of deal..

                Why invite the distraction? Not even a need. Where did Calloway go? I'd give him another chance before this guy. 

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                  @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                  Only way for him to come here would be on a one year “prove yourself” kind of deal..

                  Why invite the distraction? Not even a need. Where did Calloway go? I'd give him another chance before this guy. 

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                  @icecube said:

                  Why invite the distraction? Not even a need. Where did Calloway go? I'd give him another chance before this guy. 

                  Good point. I just always believed in his ability. Strong hands/big frame don’t go away with age.

                  He’d have to sign for cheap/want to play here. But I’m okay with passing. This offense has plenty of firepower as is.

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                    Josh is not a team player.  He's not a hard worker.  He doesn't always give 100%.  Would be a bad vibe to send the team.

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                      Frank Zappa would not allow any drugs, weed, anything when they were in the studio.  Wanted everybody sharp.

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                      @orion said:

                      Frank Zappa would not allow any drugs, weed, anything when they were in the studio.  Wanted everybody sharp.

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                        Josh is not a team player.  He's not a hard worker.  He doesn't always give 100%.  Would be a bad vibe to send the team.

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                        @orion said:

                        Josh is not a team player.  He's not a hard worker.  He doesn't always give 100%.  Would be a bad vibe to send the team.

                        I still remember Gordon coming back off one of his suspensions and completely hanging Brian Hoyer out to drive by running routes that only he seemed to think existed, and giving a half-ass effort at that, in what some speculated was his attempt to sabotage Hoyer to get his boy Johnny Fucking Football on the field. 

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                          "Gordon’s suspension falls under the rules of the old CBA, as opposed to the new agreement that has a more lenient drug policy." So he doesn't get a break there.

                          He will look great as a workout warrior. Someone will say "What the hell" and take a shot on him. He will just be a JAG at this stage of his career, and a smart GM will think to himself that, being a JAG, Gordon doesn't bring any more potential than your typical 2nd-3rd team receiver but does bring additional risk, so will cut him for the average player with less risk. 

                          Gordon will then join up with Johnny Manziel and do their best Uncle Rico imitation with some minor football league, if one ever comes back.

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                          @barry said:

                          "Gordon’s suspension falls under the rules of the old CBA, as opposed to the new agreement that has a more lenient drug policy." So he doesn't get a break there.

                          Thanks... having also read the very short article I was wondering how long the "new CBA" discussion would go on...

                          Mildly surprised to see he's an FA. Some team will take a chance on him, albeit more likely after an injury need surfaces.

                          I wonder how TB12 would feel about him in TB?

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                            @orion said:

                            Josh is not a team player.  He's not a hard worker.  He doesn't always give 100%.  Would be a bad vibe to send the team.

                            I still remember Gordon coming back off one of his suspensions and completely hanging Brian Hoyer out to drive by running routes that only he seemed to think existed, and giving a half-ass effort at that, in what some speculated was his attempt to sabotage Hoyer to get his boy Johnny Fucking Football on the field. 

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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            I still remember Gordon coming back off one of his suspensions and completely hanging Brian Hoyer out to drive by running routes that only he seemed to think existed, and giving a half-ass effort at that, in what some speculated was his attempt to sabotage Hoyer to get his boy Johnny Fucking Football on the field. 

                            I'm not big on conspiracy theories. -but- this one smells TRUE in some ways with Josh "I need another outrageous paycheck" -and- I miss my old Doobie buddy Johnny.......the one with a marijuana tattoo on his wrist.

                            Somehow I don't think that would be in the BROWNS best interest.....ever.

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                              @orion said:

                              Josh is not a team player.  He's not a hard worker.  He doesn't always give 100%.  Would be a bad vibe to send the team.

                              I still remember Gordon coming back off one of his suspensions and completely hanging Brian Hoyer out to drive by running routes that only he seemed to think existed, and giving a half-ass effort at that, in what some speculated was his attempt to sabotage Hoyer to get his boy Johnny Fucking Football on the field. 

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              I still remember Gordon coming back off one of his suspensions and completely hanging Brian Hoyer out to drive by running routes that only he seemed to think existed, and giving a half-ass effort at that, in what some speculated was his attempt to sabotage Hoyer to get his boy Johnny Fucking Football on the field. 

                              And you defended him then. 

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                                @barry said:

                                "Gordon’s suspension falls under the rules of the old CBA, as opposed to the new agreement that has a more lenient drug policy." So he doesn't get a break there.

                                Thanks... having also read the very short article I was wondering how long the "new CBA" discussion would go on...

                                Mildly surprised to see he's an FA. Some team will take a chance on him, albeit more likely after an injury need surfaces.

                                I wonder how TB12 would feel about him in TB?

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                I wonder how TB12 would feel about him in TB?

                                This is what Gordon tweeted after Brady announced he was leaving N.E. Granted, I'm sure Gordon wanted to leave the option open that Brady would want him wherever he went but at least Gordon felt comfortable enough to send this to him: “It was an honor & privilege to even sit next to you big homie, Thank you for everything. ?????,” Gordon commented.

                                I don't know how much Gordon still has in his tank but I re-watched his 2013 highlights. Damn.....looks like he wasn't even trying that hard (and if he was high every game like he says he was, he wasn't), but he could have been one of the all-time great ones.

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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  I still remember Gordon coming back off one of his suspensions and completely hanging Brian Hoyer out to drive by running routes that only he seemed to think existed, and giving a half-ass effort at that, in what some speculated was his attempt to sabotage Hoyer to get his boy Johnny Fucking Football on the field. 

                                  And you defended him then. 

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                                  @icecube said:

                                  And you defended him then. 

                                  And you know what I said about this years before I was on this board, and even longer before you were?

                                  Oh wait... did your SOURCES that told you about the impending OBJ trade tell you what I said about Gordon half a decade ago?

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                                    @icecube said:

                                    And you defended him then. 

                                    And you know what I said about this years before I was on this board, and even longer before you were?

                                    Oh wait... did your SOURCES that told you about the impending OBJ trade tell you what I said about Gordon half a decade ago?

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    And you know what I said about this years before I was on this board, and even longer before you were?

                                    Oh wait... did your SOURCES that told you about the impending OBJ trade tell you what I said about Gordon half a decade ago?

                                    Did you defend him, yes or no? Stop tap dancing, you suck at it. 

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      Why are we still talking about him?

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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        And you know what I said about this years before I was on this board, and even longer before you were?

                                        Oh wait... did your SOURCES that told you about the impending OBJ trade tell you what I said about Gordon half a decade ago?

                                        Did you defend him, yes or no? Stop tap dancing, you suck at it. 

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                                        @icecube said:

                                        Did you defend him, yes or no? Stop tap dancing, you suck at it. 

                                        Defend him from what?

                                        You are comically stupid. 

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                                          @icecube said:

                                          Did you defend him, yes or no? Stop tap dancing, you suck at it. 

                                          Defend him from what?

                                          You are comically stupid. 

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          Defend him from what?

                                          You are comically stupid. 

                                          I understand, you won't answer. 

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