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  • Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

  • Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

    @gorka said:

    Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

  • Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

    @gorka said:

    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. 

     Don't be so literal just to chime in.  You know exactly what message being conveyed means.  If you were to lose your son, that would be an incalculable loss.  

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  • @gorka said:

    Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

    @hoorta said:

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

     
    Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020
  • @gorka said:

    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. 

     Don't be so literal just to chime in.  You know exactly what message being conveyed means.  If you were to lose your son, that would be an incalculable loss.  

    @tiamat63 said:

     Don't be so literal just to chime in.  You know exactly what message being conveyed means.  If you were to lose your son, that would be an incalculable loss.  

    Don't be so critical of word usage just to chime in. Yes I do know exactly what message is being conveyed, and so do you. Sensationalism as a tool to politicize.

    Never have I heard of anyone who lost a loved one refer to their loss as "incalculable". Have you? That's sounds Retarded.

    It's possible that due to the losses being large in numbers "incalculable" by the NYT is meant to reflect the effects of the losses...what these people could have contributed to society that is unmeasurable. So I may be wrong, but you definitely are.

    Incalculable is still bunk anyway. As if 90% of these deaths were 30 yr. olds

  • @hoorta said:

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

     
    Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020

    @vambo said:

     
    Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020

    Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

  • @gorka said:

    Biggest show of sensationalism yet by the leftist NY Times.

    Just by the word "incalculable". It by all means is calculable. I'm sure those who died after being hit by a bus who happened to have COVID are on that list.

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

    @hoorta said:

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

    Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die?   You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.

  • @canton-dawg said:

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    Which one is Obama?

  • @canton-dawg said:

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    Which one is Obama?

    @gorka said:

    Which one is Obama?

    Both

  • @hoorta said:

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

    Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die?   You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.

    @gorka said:

    Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die?   You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.

    Sure there was some hysteria, probably some over reaction- fear of the unknown maybe?  We'll see what happens soon enough with the country gradually reopening. About 500 deaths every day, and it's been consistent for the last week or two. How will it trend? But trying to say- well, it's not as bad as smoking deaths- give me a break. 

  • @vambo said:

     
    Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020

    Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

    @hoorta said:

    Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

  • @hoorta said:

    Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

    @gorka said:

    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

    But he can't blame Trump on those.

  • @hoorta said:

    Yup people die every day from heart attacks, strokes, and cancer too....  But then were talking covid deaths here....  

    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

    @gorka said:

    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

    A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid...   That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. 

    Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around. 

    @vambo said:

    But he can't blame Trump on those.

    I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....   

  • @hoorta said:

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

     
    Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020

    @vambo said:

     
    Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020

    Wow. That is a lot. More than double the amount of COVID deaths per day. We are just approaching 100k COVID deaths.. Not sure if we will ever reach 480K.

    Depending on when this shit arrived, we're 5 or six month's into it, no?

  • @gorka said:

    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

    A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid...   That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. 

    Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around. 

    @vambo said:

    But he can't blame Trump on those.

    I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....   

    @hoorta said:

    A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid...   That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. 

    Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around. 

    I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....   

    Deflection??  Don't confuse deflection with putting things into perspective.

    What has been done to this country over a hysteria was a mistake by some and unforgivable to others. .

  • @vambo said:

     
    Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.Mar 23, 2020

    Wow. That is a lot. More than double the amount of COVID deaths per day. We are just approaching 100k COVID deaths.. Not sure if we will ever reach 480K.

    Depending on when this shit arrived, we're 5 or six month's into it, no?

    @gorka said:

    Wow. That is a lot. More than double the amount of COVID deaths per day. We are just approaching 100k COVID deaths.. Not sure if we will ever reach 480K.

    Depending on when this shit arrived, we're 5 or six month's into it, no?

    But but but covid-19 is worse...hide!

  • @gorka said:

    So?  Humankind has always been plagued with viruses and such, no?

    A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid...   That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. 

    Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around. 

    @vambo said:

    But he can't blame Trump on those.

    I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....   

    @hoorta said:

    A typical deflection that had nothing to do with covid...   That 100k far surpasses US casualties in the VietNam war, and depending on the stats you want to believe, more Confederate battle deaths in the Civil War. 

    Certainly- if you want to compare covid to the Black Death that wiped out at least 1\3rd of the world's population- it's minor league. BTW- yersina pestis is still around. 

    I haven't said one word in this thread about blaming Trump. I'll let The Lancet do the talking for me....   

     
     
     
    • The cigarette catastrophe continues
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    There is a myth of sorts that cigarettes are a solved problem. This can be heard when the topic turns to sugar or obesity or the climate crisis, where hopes are raised that these problems, too, might be solved “the way we fixed tobacco”. Of course that is convenient for the makers of cigarettes, who want us to think of tobacco-related death as something from the distant past, a kind of archaism we don't really need to fret too much about.

    The fact is that cigarette use remains the world's leading preventable cause of death, killing roughly 6 million people every year. That number will stay high over the next couple of decades, as the toll of present habits is taken. Disease rates from smoking peak about 30 years after peak rates of consumption, which explains why most of the epidemic lies in the future. Global smoking has now reached an astonishing 6 trillion cigarettes per year, nearly double what it was only four decades ago. That is why most of the cigarette holocaust is yet to come: in 2001 I published a paper predicting that whereas about 100 million people died from smoking in the 20th century, we could expect up to a billion deaths in the present century—assuming that nothing is done to reverse the trend.
     
  • @gorka said:

    Wow. That is a lot. More than double the amount of COVID deaths per day. We are just approaching 100k COVID deaths.. Not sure if we will ever reach 480K.

    Depending on when this shit arrived, we're 5 or six month's into it, no?

    But but but covid-19 is worse...hide!

    @vambo said:

    But but but covid-19 is worse...hide!

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  • @hoorta said:

    Yup, the video showed a 1\1,000 error rate. Trump thinks it's more like 25% by the leftist press to make him look bad. Why do I even bother anymore? I predicted 100k before  June 1st, and sadly I was right. 

    Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die?   You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.

    @gorka said:

    Initially were not over a million Americans predicted to die?   You should be saying you're GLAD you were right.

    Almost like social distancing worked or something