Trivia Questions and Answers

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

The last thing in the world I want to do is get into a bs discussion about the folded and defunct AAFC.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-America_Football_Conference

The All-America Football Conference (AAFC) was a professional American football league that challenged the established National Football League (NFL) from 1946 to 1949. One of the NFL's most formidable challengers, the AAFC attracted many of the nation's best players, and introduced many lasting innovations to the game. However, the AAFC was ultimately unable to sustain itself in competition with the NFL. After its folding, three of its teams were admitted to the NFL: the San Francisco 49ers, the Cleveland Browns and the original Baltimore Colts (not to be confused with the later Baltimore Colts team, now the Indianapolis Colts).

It was unable to sustain itself, failed, folded, disappeared, it's defunct, gone, *poof*.

Oh please EOM.

Folded is the wrong term... As I said, the leagues merged. If the AAFC had "folded" then there would not have been 3-4 teams from it that went into the NFL.

Here is the same source: Wikipedia:

Merger[edit]

On December 9, 1949, two days before the AAFC title game, the two leagues made peace. Three AAFC teams were admitted to the NFL: the Browns, 49ers, and Colts. The Dons merged with the Rams,^[28] while the Bills, Yankees and Hornets folded. The enlarged league was renamed the National–American Football League.

The Browns and 49ers, as the AAFC's two strongest teams, were obvious choices: San Francisco was also a natural fit as a geographic rival to the Rams, who were alone on the West Coast at the time.

The third choice was the subject of some debate.

There was some sentiment to admit the Bills rather than the Colts. The Bills had better attendance despite only making the playoffs twice, and had much wealthier ownership. However, Buffalo's size (only Green Bay was smaller) and climate were seen as problems.^[29] While Redskins owner George Preston Marshall had long objected to the Colts' proximity to Washington, he ultimately decided that the Colts would be a natural rival to the Redskins. He agreed to accept a $150,000 fee to waive his territorial rights.^[2]

Buffalo fans petitioned the NFL to admit the Bills as well.^[30]^[31] The league, realizing the pitfalls of having an uneven 13-team league, held a vote on admitting the Bills. While a majority of owners (including the Browns, 49ers and Colts) were willing to take the Bills, the final vote was only 9–4 in favor. League rules of the time required a unanimous vote to admit a new team. Buffalo owner Jim Breuil was content to accept a minority share of the Browns. Breuil even rebuffed an offer from the next-best pro league in the nation at the time, the minor-league American Football League of the late 1940s, to join their league.

The Yankees' players were divided between the Giants (who chose six players) and Bulldogs (who received the rest). Three Bills players were awarded to the Browns. The remaining Bills, Dons, and Hornets entered a dispersal draft.

With the AAFC Yankees gone, Bulldogs owner Ted Collins was free to rename his team "Yanks" and move into Yankee Stadium. He continued to lose money, however, and sold the team after two seasons to Dallas-based interests, who relocated the team to Dallas and called the team the Dallas Texans.^[32]

The word "American" did not remain in the enlarged league's name for long; it was dropped in March 1950. Although "National" and "American" became the names of the league's new conferences, within three years the conferences were renamed Eastern and Western. It was not until the AFL–NFL merger twenty years later that the "American" and "National" conference names were restored.

The Gipper

The AAFC–NFL merger [edit]

The NFL and the AAFC merged prior to the season, announced on December 9, 1949.^[1]^[2] Three AAFC teams — Cleveland Browns, San Francisco 49ers, and Baltimore Colts — joined the NFL intact. The players of the formerAAFC New York Yankees team were divided up between the New York Giants and the New York Bulldogs (who changed their name to New York Yanks), the Los Angeles Dons and Los Angeles Rams merged, and a portion of theAAFC Buffalo Bills was absorbed into the Browns organization. A special draft was then held by the league's 13 teams to allocate the rest of the AAFC players.

The 13 teams were realigned into the American and National conferences, which lasted for three seasons. The merged league briefly flirted with the name "National-American Football League",^[1]^[2] but restored the name "National Football League" a few months later on March 3, 1950. [1] Under the alignment, both conferences had a team in New York and Chicago. The "American Conference" (formerly the Eastern Division) had six teams including the Giants and the Cardinals, and the "National Conference" (the old Western Division) had seven teams including the Yanks and the Bears, as well as the Baltimore Colts.

Baltimore was declared a "swing team" and played one game against each of the other 12 NFL clubs. The original intent of the merger was to have the popular Cleveland Browns serve as this team for two years to equally help gate receipts throughout the league, however, this was refused point blank by Paul Brown. Over a 13-week season, one team was idle each week while the other 12 met in the six scheduled games. Each team played a home-and-away game against the other five teams in their conference, one game outside the conference, and one game against Baltimore over the course of a 12-game schedule.

The league also established the Pro Bowl in the 1950 season. Though the league had attempted an all-star game annually between 1938 and 1942, it had cancelled the game because of World War II and did not revive it when the war ended. Unlike the previous all-star game format, which pitted the league's most recent champion against the league's best all-stars, the Pro Bowl would pit two all-star teams, one from each conference, against each other.

The Gipper

Here is Today's Trivia Question:

The Browns have played 11 different teams twice or more in postseason play in their history, including some teams in the AAFC.

Name these 11 teams.

Answers:

Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts 4 times

Detroit Lions 4 times

LA RAms 3 times

Denver Broncos 3 times

Dallas Cowboys 3 times

NY Yankees...AAFC 2 times

Buffalo Bills...AAFC 2 times

Raiders (once in OAK, once in LA) 2 times

Dolphins 2 times

Steelers 2 times

Giants 2 times

Teams they have met just once: 49ers (while in AAFC), Vikings, Packers, Jets, Oilers, Buffalo Bills NFL, Patriots

The Gipper

The theme of today's Trivia is "To be a Brown, or not To Be a Brown, that is the question". I am going to give you a list of names.

You tell us whether or not the names I give were or were not a player that once played for the Browns. Some names may be familiar in other contexts. You hve to determine if there was also a Brown by that name. Here you go I will lump them by the Alphabet

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A. Chet Atkins; ~~Karim Abdul-Jabbar;~~

B. Jim Black; ~~Jim Brown~~; ~~James Brown~~; ; John Brown;

C. Cameron Jordan; Ka-ren Carpenter; George Cherokee; Elvince Costello

F. Fabiano; Fred Foggie; Henry Ford; David Frost

G. ~~Tom Gibson; Forrest Grigg~~

H. Hamlett; ~~John Hughes~~

J. ~~Andrew Jackson~~; Dick Jacobs; ~~Tommy James~~; Tom Joad; George Jones; Tom Jones

K. Don King; James Kirk; Fred Kruger

L. Bert Lahr; Clubber Lang

M. Marcel Marceau; Willie Hays Mays; ~~Montreal Meander~~; Eddie Murphy; Michael Myers

N. Ozzie Nelson

R. ~~Jim Rome; Fred Rogers~~

S. Nick Saban; Fred Sanford; Stan Sheriff; Dick Shiner;

T. Zack Taylor; Tanya Tucker

V. Dick Vitale

W. Apollo Creed aka Carl Weathers; Bob White; Thomas (Woodrow) Wilson; Wil(bur) Wright.

Lined out have been answered.

TexasAg1969

@the-gipper said:

The theme of today's Trivia is "To be a Brown, or not To Be a Brown, that is the question". I am going to give you a list of names.

You tell us whether or not the names I give were or were not a player that once played for the Browns. Some names may be familiar in other contexts. You hve to determine if there was also a Brown by that name. Here you go I will lump them by the Alphabet

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A. Chet Atkins; Karim Abdul-Jabbar;

B. Jim Black; Jim Brown; James Brown; ; John Brown;

C. Cameron Jordan; Ka-ren Carpenter; George Cherokee; Elvince Costello

F. Fabiano; Fred Foggie; Henry Ford; David Frost

G. Tom Gibson; Forrest Grigg

H. Hamlett; John Hughes

J. Andrew Jackson; Dick Jacobs; Tommy James; Tom Joad; George Jones; Tom Jones

K. Don King; James Kirk; Fred Kruger

L. Bert Lahr; Clubber Lang

M. Marcel Marceau; Willie Hays Mays; Montreal Meander; Eddie Murphy; Michael Myers

N. Ozzie Nelson

R. Jim Rome; Fred Rogers

S. Nick Saban; Fred Sanford; Stan Sheriff; Dick Shiner;

T. Zack Taylor; Tanya Tucker

V. Dick Vitale

W. Apollo Creed aka Carl Weathers; Bob White; Thomas (Woodrow) Wilson; Wil(bur) Wright.

J. Tommy James played for the Crimson Tide which inspired him to write/sing Crimson & Clover. Andrew Jackson played for New Orleans.

SdBacker80

@the-gipper said:

The theme of today's Trivia is "To be a Brown, or not To Be a Brown, that is the question". I am going to give you a list of names.

You tell us whether or not the names I give were or were not a player that once played for the Browns. Some names may be familiar in other contexts. You hve to determine if there was also a Brown by that name. Here you go I will lump them by the Alphabet

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A. Chet Atkins; Karim Abdul-Jabbar;

B. Jim Black; Jim Brown; James Brown; ; John Brown;

C. Cameron Jordan; Ka-ren Carpenter; George Cherokee; Elvince Costello

F. Fabiano; Fred Foggie; Henry Ford; David Frost

G. Tom Gibson; Forrest Grigg

H. Hamlett; John Hughes

J. Andrew Jackson; Dick Jacobs; Tommy James; Tom Joad; George Jones; Tom Jones

K. Don King; James Kirk; Fred Kruger

L. Bert Lahr; Clubber Lang

M. Marcel Marceau; Willie Hays Mays; Montreal Meander; Eddie Murphy; Michael Myers

N. Ozzie Nelson

R. Jim Rome; Fred Rogers

S. Nick Saban; Fred Sanford; Stan Sheriff; Dick Shiner;

T. Zack Taylor; Tanya Tucker

V. Dick Vitale

W. Apollo Creed aka Carl Weathers; Bob White; Thomas (Woodrow) Wilson; Wil(bur) Wright.

Meander, Abdul Jabbar, Jim Brown, John Hughes All Browns

The Gipper

@sdbacker80 said:

Meander, Abdul Jabbar, Jim Brown, John Hughes All Browns

Check on these.

The Gipper

@texasag1969 said:

J. Tommy James played for the Crimson Tide which inspired him to write/sing Crimson & Clover. Andrew Jackson played for New Orleans.

OK, very clever.... but you did not in any way answer the question. Did they also play for the Browns?

mjp28

G. Tom Gibson; Forrest Grigg......I assume that you mean Forrest Gregg YES

Tom Gibson maybe, Tom Gipson sounds like some dweeb pencil pusher NO. And I see that retirement is agreeing with you, you have entirely too much time on your hands.

And the real Forrest Gregg below no pencil pusher.

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

G. Tom Gibson; Forrest Grigg......I assume that you mean Forrest Gregg YES

Tom Gibson maybe, Tom Gipson sounds like some dweeb pencil pusher NO. And I see that retirement is agreeing with you, you have entirely too much time on your hands.

And the real Forrest Gregg below no pencil pusher.

Tom Gibson is the actor who played on Dharma and Greg, and Criminal Intent. And also, yes, a Browns player.

So, I give you that one.

And....you would assume wrong.

Forrest "Chubby" Grigg.....was a member of the Cleveland Browns. But also kind of a sad story. To be honest, I had not heard of him as a member of the Browns until I did this research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chubby_Grigg

Grigg pictured in uniform in a publicity shot

mjp28

@the-gipper said:

assume wrong.

Forrest "Chubby" Grigg.....was a member of the Cleveland Browns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chubby_Grigg

But...buzzzz. not this one.

Wow that just looked like a for sure typo. Chubby Grigg.

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

Wow that just looked like a for sure typo. Chubby Grigg.

Well....needless to say....there are more tricks of that nature on the list.

mjp28

R. Jim Rome; Fred Rogers

Rome imposter, Rogers I seem to remember that name as a player.

Icecube

The Gipper

Word on a few of the guys whose names have been given:

I already explained about Forrest Grigg...yes a Brown. Forrest Gregg....was a former Browns HC, but not player

Jim Rome...not a Brown. Jerry Rhome, however was.

Fred Rogers....not a Brown. Don Rogers, Shaun Rogers, were.

Tommy James was a Brown. ...but he came without the Shondells.

Andrew Jackson was not. But we did have a guy named Alfred Jackson.

Jim Brown, Montrel/Montreal Meander, John Hughes, and Karim (not Kareem) Abdul-Jabbar were Browns

James Brown was a Browns player...( a different James Brown besides Jim Brown) .and the Godfather of Soul.

There are still like over 30 names left to answer up there

The Gipper

You tell us whether or not the names I give were or were not a player that once played for the Browns. Some names may be familiar in other contexts. You hve to determine if there was also a Brown by that name. Here you go I will lump them by the Alphabet.

Answers. Here we go with each name.

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A. Chet Atkins; No....There was a Chet Adams, and a Doug Atkins, but Chet Atkins remains the rockabilly artist of the 50s.

Karim Abdul-Jabbar; Yes, not to be confused with Kareem.

B. Jim Black; Jim Brown; James Brown; ; John Brown;

ALL of the above were players for the Brown; as well as being Godfathers of Soul, and Harper's Ferry Raiders

C. Cameron Jordan; NO....but Jordan Cameron was a Browns player

Ka-ren Carpenter; NO....but Ken Carpenter was

George Cherokee; Yes, Browns player

Elvince Costello....Yes, sort of. Vince Costello was....and if you consider him THE Vince Costello, but say it is Spanish, he is El Vince Costello....of course, not to be confused with Elvis Costello.

F. Fabiano; Yes, but I don't think he went by just one name like the similarly named male model Fabio. He was Anthony Fabiano

Fred Foggie; Henry Ford; Both of these were Browns players.....as well as one being an auto mogul.

David Frost...No, but there was a Derrick Frost.....but as far as I know, Derrick Frost did not do a famous interview of Richard Nixon.

G. Tom Gibson; Forrest Grigg Yes, both of these were Browns players.....but do not confuse the first with the Criminal Minds actor...or me. And don't confuse the latter with the Packer/Browns-Bengals former coach Forrest Gregg.

H. Hamlett; Yes, there was a Browns player named Hamlett (Hamlet)... first name Robert. Not to be confused with that Danish guy.

John Hughes.....Yes a Browns player. But not to be confused with the Director of the likes of Ferris Beuhler, Breakfast Club, St. Elmo's Fire; Sixteen Candles etc.

J. Andrew Jackson; No....but we did have an Alfred Jackson

Dick Jacobs; No....but we did have a Dave Jacobs (and fyi...former Browns owner Dick Jacobs had a brother named Dave)

Tommy James; Yes, a Browns player, as well as the Crystal Blue Persuasion singer.

Tom Joad; NO, not a Browns player....but we did have a Tim Goad.....not to be confused with the Grapes of Wrath/Springsteen character.

George Jones; Tom Jones.....YES, both Browns players as well as being singer types.

K. Don King; Yes, Browns player, but not to be confused with boxing promotor "Only in America" guy.

James Kirk; No....closest we came to this was Captain Kirksey

Fred Kruger....NO.....closest we came was Paul Kruger

L. Bert Lahr; No...no Cowardly Lion actors.....but we did have Warren Lahr.

Clubber Lang. Well, maybe, sorta. Not the Mr. T character....but we did have defensive lineman Kenard Lang....and at times I know he was referred to as Clubber (in homage to the Rocky character)

M. Marcel Marceau; NO, no mimes....but we did have a Mel Maceau

Willie Hays Mays; No, nor a Willie Mays Hays......but we did have David Mays

Montreal Meander; Yes, well, Montrel Meander that is.

Eddie Murphy; No...but we did have a Freddie Murphy

Michael Myers.....YES, a Browns player, not a psycho killer, nor a SNL comedian

N. Ozzie Nelson...No, but we did have Ozzie Newsome.

R. Jim Rome; No, but we did have Jerry Rhome

Fred Rogers....NO, but we did have Don and Shaun Rogers

S. Nick Saban; NO....but he was a Browns asst. coach...and a relative of his Lou Saban, did play for the Browns (he was also Bill coach)

Fred Sanford; No, no junk dealers.....but we did have Lucious and Brian Sanford...hopefully they were not junk dealers.

Stan Sheriff; Dick Shiner; Yes, both of these were Browns players.

T. Zack Taylor; No, no ex-President....

Tanya Tucker....No, but we did have Travis Tucker. (good name for CW singer)

V. Dick Vitale....No, but we did have a Dan Vitale. (don't know if they were related)

W. Apollo Creed aka Carl Weathers; NO....but, we did have Curtis Weathers.....who actually was Carl Weathers real life brother

Bob White; Thomas (Woodrow) Wilson; Wil(bur) Wright. Yes....we had players with all three of these names. FYI, President Woodrow Wilson's first name was Thomas...why he went by Woodrow...or why he would is beyond me. And Willie Wright is currently on the Browns roster.....though I doubt his full first name is Wilbur. I don't even know if, say, William is his real first name. He goes by Willie always. Spent 2019 on Browns PS.

Lined out have been answered.

The Gipper

NOT former Browns player performing:

The Gipper

NOT former Browns player performing:

mjp28

John Hughes.....Yes a Browns player. But not to be confused with the Director of the likes of Ferris Beuhler, Breakfast Club, St. Elmo's Fire; Sixteen Candles etc

And a National Lampoon staff writer and later writer and/or director of the National Lampoon Vacation series and Animal House among other comedy classics.

The Gipper

NOT former Browns player performing: