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  • So?  They did table it.   I had not heard.    Rooney was right....it really is too gimmicky. 

    Like the college OT rules....nothing but a gimmick. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Like the college OT rules....nothing but a gimmick. 

    Yep, but I loved A&M's record setting 7 OT win over LSU!?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Like the college OT rules....nothing but a gimmick. 

    Yep, but I loved A&M's record setting 7 OT win over LSU!?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yep, but I loved A&M's record setting 7 OT win over LSU!?

    Would you have loved it less if there was a legitimate OT system in place and they won? 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Yep, but I loved A&M's record setting 7 OT win over LSU!?

    Would you have loved it less if there was a legitimate OT system in place and they won? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Would you have loved it less if there was a legitimate OT system in place and they won? 

    I'd like the win but would have missed multiple spectacular plays that 7 OT produced by both sides.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Would you have loved it less if there was a legitimate OT system in place and they won? 

    I'd like the win but would have missed multiple spectacular plays that 7 OT produced by both sides.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'd like the win but would have missed multiple spectacular plays that 7 OT produced by both sides.

    meh.  Those plays happen every week in college football in regulation time. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I'd like the win but would have missed multiple spectacular plays that 7 OT produced by both sides.

    meh.  Those plays happen every week in college football in regulation time. 

    @the-gipper said:

    meh.  Those plays happen every week in college football in regulation time. 

    Nope. It was one play after another every single overtime. There were more spectacular plays in the overtimes than any 3 full college games combined.

    It was named Sports Illustrated's Game of the Year for 2018. https://www.si.com/college/2018/11/28/regular-season-top-10-games-lsu-texas-am

  • @the-gipper said:

    meh.  Those plays happen every week in college football in regulation time. 

    Nope. It was one play after another every single overtime. There were more spectacular plays in the overtimes than any 3 full college games combined.

    It was named Sports Illustrated's Game of the Year for 2018. https://www.si.com/college/2018/11/28/regular-season-top-10-games-lsu-texas-am

    @texasag1969 said:

    Nope. It was one play after another every single overtime. There were more spectacular plays in the overtimes than any 3 full college games combined.

    It was named Sports Illustrated's Game of the Year for 2018. https://www.si.com/college/2018/11/28/regular-season-top-10-games-lsu-texas-am

    Not impressed by games that take such gimmickry to the extreme.  I am not saying that the kids didn't make great plays...even spectacular plays.  But having to go to 7 OTs with this system is a farce. 

  • I hate that 4th and 15 onside kick thing.   If you're losing the game then you deserve to be losing the game!   Don't penalize the team that has worked hard to get a lead.

    Let's change the NBA to Make It - Take it then!

    @orion said:

    I hate that 4th and 15 onside kick thing.   If you're losing the game then you deserve to be losing the game!   Don't penalize the team that has worked hard to get a lead.

    Let's change the NBA to Make It - Take it then!

    I kind of agree let's not get too cute with the rule changes unless they have to......proven data on health concerns, etc.

    ALSO I hate multiple OT games I like the current NFL version and then let it end in a tie unless it is a playoff game.

  • @orion said:

    I hate that 4th and 15 onside kick thing.   If you're losing the game then you deserve to be losing the game!   Don't penalize the team that has worked hard to get a lead.

    Let's change the NBA to Make It - Take it then!

    I kind of agree let's not get too cute with the rule changes unless they have to......proven data on health concerns, etc.

    ALSO I hate multiple OT games I like the current NFL version and then let it end in a tie unless it is a playoff game.

    @mjp28 said:

    ALSO I hate multiple OT games I like the current NFL version and then let it end in a tie unless it is a playoff game.

    Ya know what?  I don't have a problem with games ending in a tie.  Play 60 minutes...and end the game...so that 60 Minutes can come on on time.  🙂

    Obviously, playoffs 'require' a winner and a loser....but IMO, the regular season does not.

    edit:  add:  For the VAST majority of the last 20 years.....A TIE would've been a HUGE VICTORY for us.  

  • Play football for 60 minutes...then we can all get the hell out a here!

  • OK, that made no sense whatsoever. 

  • OK, that made no sense whatsoever. 

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, that made no sense whatsoever. 

    Lol....So, I say, for the regular season, no OT.   -  Play 60 minutes of football then we can all get the hell out of there.

    And Woody says, We're going to clone him right into his suite so we can all get the hell out of here.

  • They can table that 4th & 15 rule every year in my traditional ? opinion.. or till they can find a replacement for Troy Vincent 😮...

    I listened to Mr. V, try to explain the 'non-gimmick' of this rule yesterday.. of why any sports team, getting their butts handed to them all day should even earn a chance?

    Vincent replied "The NFL is a 60 minute 'entertainment' business" Get Out! before we can build 20 point comeback Targets?       

    Edit--i get my fair share of rule changes just flipping on a browns game weekly..why risk anymore? 

  • They can table that 4th & 15 rule every year in my traditional ? opinion.. or till they can find a replacement for Troy Vincent 😮...

    I listened to Mr. V, try to explain the 'non-gimmick' of this rule yesterday.. of why any sports team, getting their butts handed to them all day should even earn a chance?

    Vincent replied "The NFL is a 60 minute 'entertainment' business" Get Out! before we can build 20 point comeback Targets?       

    Edit--i get my fair share of rule changes just flipping on a browns game weekly..why risk anymore? 

    @gumby73 said:

    They can table that 4th & 15 rule every year in my traditional ? opinion.. or till they can find a replacement for Troy Vincent 😮...

    I listened to Mr. V, try to explain the 'non-gimmick' of this rule yesterday.. of why any sports team, getting their butts handed to them all day should even earn a chance?

    Vincent replied "The NFL is a 60 minute 'entertainment' business" Get Out! before we can build 20 point comeback Targets?       

    Edit--i get my fair share of rule changes just flipping on a browns game weekly..why risk anymore? 

    The refs have seemed to come up with new rules from time to time to keep the Browns from winning.   Going back to the Bottle game. 

  • New Rule:  # 119B  -   The bench area for each sideline will be extended beyond each goal line so as to offer social distancing during anthems.

  • The onside proposal made some sense, but it did seem a bit easy. Maybe 4th and 20-25 would have evened the odds.  The other factor is the goofy refs.  Throw a flag, automatic first down.  You don't see many flags thrown on the team receiving the ball on a onside kick. They are usually on the kicking team, now the offensive team.  Now the burden favors the kicking team even further. I am tired of refs changing games.

  • The onside proposal made some sense, but it did seem a bit easy. Maybe 4th and 20-25 would have evened the odds.  The other factor is the goofy refs.  Throw a flag, automatic first down.  You don't see many flags thrown on the team receiving the ball on a onside kick. They are usually on the kicking team, now the offensive team.  Now the burden favors the kicking team even further. I am tired of refs changing games.

    @ballpeen said:

    The onside proposal made some sense,

    Not to me it didn't.

    Does baseball give the losing team 4 or 5 outs because they're getting beat?   Does basketball turn into Make It, Take It because a team is losing?

    Why bother watching the whole game?  Just tune in at the end when the 'silliness' that'll decide the game takes place.

  • @ballpeen said:

    The onside proposal made some sense,

    Not to me it didn't.

    Does baseball give the losing team 4 or 5 outs because they're getting beat?   Does basketball turn into Make It, Take It because a team is losing?

    Why bother watching the whole game?  Just tune in at the end when the 'silliness' that'll decide the game takes place.

    @orion said:

    Not to me it didn't.

    Does baseball give the losing team 4 or 5 outs because they're getting beat?   Does basketball turn into Make It, Take It because a team is losing?

    Why bother watching the whole game?  Just tune in at the end when the 'silliness' that'll decide the game takes place.

    You mean like not calling an obvious PI that kept N.O. out of the Superbowl?

  • @orion said:

    Not to me it didn't.

    Does baseball give the losing team 4 or 5 outs because they're getting beat?   Does basketball turn into Make It, Take It because a team is losing?

    Why bother watching the whole game?  Just tune in at the end when the 'silliness' that'll decide the game takes place.

    You mean like not calling an obvious PI that kept N.O. out of the Superbowl?

    @texasag1969 said:

    You mean like not calling an obvious PI that kept N.O. out of the Superbowl?

    Well, yes but no.  That's a total screw up.  I'm talking about purposely making rules to screw the team that's worked hard and done the right things all game long, just to give the losing team more chances to screw the opponent.  

    How 'bout we do this?  The team captains walk out to the middle of the field, the ref tosses the coin, the home team calls it in the air, the winner of the toss is the winner of the game.  Done.  We can all get the hell out-a-here.  (don't make me post Woody Allen again)

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You mean like not calling an obvious PI that kept N.O. out of the Superbowl?

    Well, yes but no.  That's a total screw up.  I'm talking about purposely making rules to screw the team that's worked hard and done the right things all game long, just to give the losing team more chances to screw the opponent.  

    How 'bout we do this?  The team captains walk out to the middle of the field, the ref tosses the coin, the home team calls it in the air, the winner of the toss is the winner of the game.  Done.  We can all get the hell out-a-here.  (don't make me post Woody Allen again)

    @orion said:

    Well, yes but no.  That's a total screw up.  I'm talking about purposely making rules to screw the team that's worked hard and done the right things all game long, just to give the losing team more chances to screw the opponent.  

    How 'bout we do this?  The team captains walk out to the middle of the field, the ref tosses the coin, the home team calls it in the air, the winner of the toss is the winner of the game.  Done.  We can all get the hell out-a-here.  (don't make me post Woody Allen again)

    The Browns would find a way to lose 9 tosses.?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You mean like not calling an obvious PI that kept N.O. out of the Superbowl?

    Well, yes but no.  That's a total screw up.  I'm talking about purposely making rules to screw the team that's worked hard and done the right things all game long, just to give the losing team more chances to screw the opponent.  

    How 'bout we do this?  The team captains walk out to the middle of the field, the ref tosses the coin, the home team calls it in the air, the winner of the toss is the winner of the game.  Done.  We can all get the hell out-a-here.  (don't make me post Woody Allen again)

    @orion said:

    That's a total screw up.  I'm talking about purposely making rules to screw the team that's worked hard and done the right things all game long

    They purposely made non-calls at the end of a game not reviewable.  That screwed a team which had worked hard and done the right things all game long.

    So, they need to change rules.