Browns players taking a knee
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Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit?
If we're going to have people here posting negative, hateful comments against Browns players for peacefully protesting you might as well save us the trouble and leave now.
Based on Goodell admitting the NFL was wrong on this issue in the past, I think they'll have the balls to go against Trump. As a result, plus with everything else going on, you're going to see players taking a knee. I reference Jarvis and OBJ as they were just in the players' video on the issue.
Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.
Otherwise we're in for another long season of some awful and embarrassing takes on here.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit?
If we're going to have people here posting negative, hateful comments against Browns players for peacefully protesting you might as well save us the trouble and leave now.
Based on Goodell admitting the NFL was wrong on this issue in the past, I think they'll have the balls to go against Trump. As a result, plus with everything else going on, you're going to see players taking a knee. I reference Jarvis and OBJ as they were just in the players' video on the issue.
Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.
Otherwise we're in for another long season of some awful and embarrassing takes on here.
Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit?
If we're going to have people here posting negative, hateful comments against Browns players for peacefully protesting you might as well save us the trouble and leave now.
Based on Goodell admitting the NFL was wrong on this issue in the past, I think they'll have the balls to go against Trump. As a result, plus with everything else going on, you're going to see players taking a knee. I reference Jarvis and OBJ as they were just in the players' video on the issue.
Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.
Otherwise we're in for another long season of some awful and embarrassing takes on here.
I’ll bite ...See I am not going to fall prey to the pick a side mob mentality happening now in our country.
Am I happy with the direction of this country? (social aspects no- financially we are stronger than ever). We can be much better. We still have oppressed coming here from all over the world- I see it daily in San Diego. This is a great place by no means is it a perfect place.
I’m disgusted by The actions of a former officer and inactions of the other former officers in MN. I know they aren’t all bad there are certainly bad eggs that target groups and races. But a “solution” to disband the police is ludicrous.
I unfortunately and sadly see that people are treated differently in this Country.
I hate seeing people looting small businesses and other establishments but I think it’s great that peaceful protest is happening with both young and old. It’s uniting generations.But let me also say I am damn grateful for the sacrifice soldiers and officers have made to protect us. I’m grateful for their service and out of respect for what they’ve done the flag as a symbol not just of our nation but of the sacrifice of soldiers and officers I stop what I’m doing during the song and presentation of flag and my focus is on that. I don’t agree with kneeling but that’s a choice you have just as people have a choice not to agree with you.
I’m still going to buy NFL products watch games and hopefully go to games soon.
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Here's my take. Sadly, it's the police that set the tone of racism in this country. Yes, citizens do terrible racist things...but the police are the ones that set the example. And too many of them are bullies and power mongers, who think that they don't have to follow the laws. This type of activity has been going on all the way back to Wyatt Earp.....but now, we've all got video cameras in our pockets...
Police chiefs can come out and say all the right things, but it's all blah, blah, blah......because there's too many peckerheaded policemen. The police are no different than any other organization though, there's assholes in every profession...all the way up to and including priesthood and boy scout masters. There's just a higher concentration in the police because that's where the bullies in life would gravitate towards. That and the underworld.
Growing up, I instructed my son that the police are not your friends. They are a necessary evil. ( BTW, my little cousin is a policeman. He's a heck of a great guy! Made it to Sargent! I love him to death! )
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
I would just like to say, even if I don't agree with everything in your post, I appreciate that well thought out an honest discussion. Sometimes it is nice to get confirmation that the world isn't just the loud extremes.
I'm also genuinely not trying to bait anyone into posting (though a certain group might take this downhill fast).
Based on recent comments by Goodell and the NFL it looks like kneeling will be allowed. Based on the previous response from some on this board, I am asking they come to grips with this reality sooner than later. We definitely don't need to be "that" fanbase when the league resumes.
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My question is what is the average IQ of a police officer. this is no offense to you if your a policeman....I love “good” cops. but I do wonder sometimes if the training for cops just isn’t adequate enough.
I am sorry for both sides. I hate how the black community is treated. I hate how good cops will now be treated because of some bad cops, but I also see the systemic racism being existent. I also see the looting as despicable. Unfortunately nobody fucking wins in this scenario. That’s racism for you. I hope the country heals.
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Just remember, DJTs disaffection for the NFL and its players all comes back to him personally (as everything usually does) , because he was twice rejected to be allowed to become an NFL owner. He FUBARed the entire USFL situation...which I always felt that if he had not intervened could have actually been successful to the point that a potential merger with the NFL could have eventually happened; and again when he was rejected from consideration to buy the Buffalo Bills.
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Even the men’s national soccer team is looking into repealing the “kneel ban”.
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Zombo said:
It didn't bother me when players kneeled last time, and it won't bother me this time.
Let me know when to lock this thread or send it to the poli board.
Z
Going pretty smoothly so far. Let's see how it plays out
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Please, please, please can we skip the "they're disrespecting the flag" bullshit?
If we're going to have people here posting negative, hateful comments against Browns players for peacefully protesting you might as well save us the trouble and leave now.
Based on Goodell admitting the NFL was wrong on this issue in the past, I think they'll have the balls to go against Trump. As a result, plus with everything else going on, you're going to see players taking a knee. I reference Jarvis and OBJ as they were just in the players' video on the issue.
Drew Brees admitted his mistake and understands it now. I'm hoping more posters on here do as well.
Otherwise we're in for another long season of some awful and embarrassing takes on here.
I’ll bite ...See I am not going to fall prey to the pick a side mob mentality happening now in our country.
Am I happy with the direction of this country? (social aspects no- financially we are stronger than ever). We can be much better. We still have oppressed coming here from all over the world- I see it daily in San Diego. This is a great place by no means is it a perfect place.
I’m disgusted by The actions of a former officer and inactions of the other former officers in MN. I know they aren’t all bad there are certainly bad eggs that target groups and races. But a “solution” to disband the police is ludicrous.
I unfortunately and sadly see that people are treated differently in this Country.
I hate seeing people looting small businesses and other establishments but I think it’s great that peaceful protest is happening with both young and old. It’s uniting generations.But let me also say I am damn grateful for the sacrifice soldiers and officers have made to protect us. I’m grateful for their service and out of respect for what they’ve done the flag as a symbol not just of our nation but of the sacrifice of soldiers and officers I stop what I’m doing during the song and presentation of flag and my focus is on that. I don’t agree with kneeling but that’s a choice you have just as people have a choice not to agree with you.
I’m still going to buy NFL products watch games and hopefully go to games soon.
I’ll bite ...See I am not going to fall prey to the pick a side mob mentality happening now in our country.
Am I happy with the direction of this country? (social aspects no- financially we are stronger than ever). We can be much better. We still have oppressed coming here from all over the world- I see it daily in San Diego. This is a great place by no means is it a perfect place.
I’m disgusted by The actions of a former officer and inactions of the other former officers in MN. I know they aren’t all bad there are certainly bad eggs that target groups and races. But a “solution” to disband the police is ludicrous.
I unfortunately and sadly see that people are treated differently in this Country.
I hate seeing people looting small businesses and other establishments but I think it’s great that peaceful protest is happening with both young and old. It’s uniting generations.But let me also say I am damn grateful for the sacrifice soldiers and officers have made to protect us. I’m grateful for their service and out of respect for what they’ve done the flag as a symbol not just of our nation but of the sacrifice of soldiers and officers I stop what I’m doing during the song and presentation of flag and my focus is on that. I don’t agree with kneeling but that’s a choice you have just as people have a choice not to agree with you.
I’m still going to buy NFL products watch games and hopefully go to games soon.
While I could go on and on about how the kneeling during anthem was hijacked by a certain demography of people when it's truly about the killing of unarmed black men by the police. It nice hearing from someone that has a different viewpoint but isn't a complete an utter asshole about it. Stay safe go Browns!
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My question is what is the average IQ of a police officer. this is no offense to you if your a policeman....I love “good” cops. but I do wonder sometimes if the training for cops just isn’t adequate enough.
I am sorry for both sides. I hate how the black community is treated. I hate how good cops will now be treated because of some bad cops, but I also see the systemic racism being existent. I also see the looting as despicable. Unfortunately nobody fucking wins in this scenario. That’s racism for you. I hope the country heals.
My question is what is the average IQ of a police officer. this is no offense to you if your a policeman....I love “good” cops. but I do wonder sometimes if the training for cops just isn’t adequate enough.
I am sorry for both sides. I hate how the black community is treated. I hate how good cops will now be treated because of some bad cops, but I also see the systemic racism being existent. I also see the looting as despicable. Unfortunately nobody fucking wins in this scenario. That’s racism for you. I hope the country heals.
Probably very low. Hill jack states like Kentucky you don't even need a HS diploma. Over in Europe many countries train their police for 2-3 years and the use of a gun is a last resort. Your taught to deescalate dangerous situations. Over here it take 23 weeks in the police academy to get your badge and you get cops beating 75 old men and laughing about it as an end result. Many of these people were bullies in school. Add in the direct correlational that racism is also directly tied to being uneducated, stupid, and ignorant and you have the mess that we are in. It also doesn't help the police "Policing" themselves is simple not working, like at all. It one thing for you to let a fellow police officer off the hook for having a few to many, it's entirely a different story when you sit there for 9 minutes while an man dies under co-workers knee and you sit there doing nothing.
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My question is what is the average IQ of a police officer. this is no offense to you if your a policeman....I love “good” cops. but I do wonder sometimes if the training for cops just isn’t adequate enough.
I am sorry for both sides. I hate how the black community is treated. I hate how good cops will now be treated because of some bad cops, but I also see the systemic racism being existent. I also see the looting as despicable. Unfortunately nobody fucking wins in this scenario. That’s racism for you. I hope the country heals.
My question is what is the average IQ of a police officer. this is no offense to you if your a policeman....I love “good” cops. but I do wonder sometimes if the training for cops just isn’t adequate enough.
In just about every larger city department, you take a civil service test. Typically, the test is similar to a SAT or ACT test....not ultra tough but not easy. Usually about 200 questions.
You need 70% to pass, and those that do are ranked in orde (with all passing candidates). Then there's the physical agility test.
If you're being considered for a position then you have polygraph tests, background checks, etc. Then you need to pass the academy & department probation.
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Anyone who kneels and disrespects the flag should never be acknowledged as "American(s)" ever again..... They don't deserve it!
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Anyone who kneels and disrespects the flag should never be acknowledged as "American(s)" ever again..... They don't deserve it!
Anyone who kneels and disrespects the flag should never be acknowledged as "American(s)" ever again..... They don't deserve it!
So, what you seem to be saying is that Americans are not granted the freedom of expression?
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My question is what is the average IQ of a police officer. this is no offense to you if your a policeman....I love “good” cops. but I do wonder sometimes if the training for cops just isn’t adequate enough.
I am sorry for both sides. I hate how the black community is treated. I hate how good cops will now be treated because of some bad cops, but I also see the systemic racism being existent. I also see the looting as despicable. Unfortunately nobody fucking wins in this scenario. That’s racism for you. I hope the country heals.
Probably very low. Hill jack states like Kentucky you don't even need a HS diploma. Over in Europe many countries train their police for 2-3 years and the use of a gun is a last resort. Your taught to deescalate dangerous situations. Over here it take 23 weeks in the police academy to get your badge and you get cops beating 75 old men and laughing about it as an end result. Many of these people were bullies in school. Add in the direct correlational that racism is also directly tied to being uneducated, stupid, and ignorant and you have the mess that we are in. It also doesn't help the police "Policing" themselves is simple not working, like at all. It one thing for you to let a fellow police officer off the hook for having a few to many, it's entirely a different story when you sit there for 9 minutes while an man dies under co-workers knee and you sit there doing nothing.
Probably very low. Hill jack states like Kentucky you don't even need a HS diploma. Over in Europe many countries train their police for 2-3 years and the use of a gun is a last resort. Your taught to deescalate dangerous situations. Over here it take 23 weeks in the police academy to get your badge and you get cops beating 75 old men and laughing about it as an end result. Many of these people were bullies in school. Add in the direct correlational that racism is also directly tied to being uneducated, stupid, and ignorant and you have the mess that we are in. It also doesn't help the police "Policing" themselves is simple not working, like at all. It one thing for you to let a fellow police officer off the hook for having a few to many, it's entirely a different story when you sit there for 9 minutes while an man dies under co-workers knee and you sit there doing nothing.
I’m a cop. I have an above average IQ. I work with a lot of people who are as equally or more intelligent than I am. I don’t hate anyone. We live in dark times. Not sure what else to say.
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Probably very low. Hill jack states like Kentucky you don't even need a HS diploma. Over in Europe many countries train their police for 2-3 years and the use of a gun is a last resort. Your taught to deescalate dangerous situations. Over here it take 23 weeks in the police academy to get your badge and you get cops beating 75 old men and laughing about it as an end result. Many of these people were bullies in school. Add in the direct correlational that racism is also directly tied to being uneducated, stupid, and ignorant and you have the mess that we are in. It also doesn't help the police "Policing" themselves is simple not working, like at all. It one thing for you to let a fellow police officer off the hook for having a few to many, it's entirely a different story when you sit there for 9 minutes while an man dies under co-workers knee and you sit there doing nothing.
I’m a cop. I have an above average IQ. I work with a lot of people who are as equally or more intelligent than I am. I don’t hate anyone. We live in dark times. Not sure what else to say.
I’m a cop. I have an above average IQ. I work with a lot of people who are as equally or more intelligent than I am. I don’t hate anyone. We live in dark times. Not sure what else to say.
I applauded you for your work and mean no disrespect. Hell I believe you but there's WAYYY too many bad apples at this point, even if it's 4 percent of officers that are bad that's too much. Cops are essential to society the same way as an engine on a plane is. Think... would you be ok with an engine failure 4 percent of the time while going on a trip to Vegas? These guys should be held to highest of standards because they meant to protect all people end of story. This could have easily avoided if this was handled internally by police doing the work themselves think eg. MLB. But maybe being a "nark" had too many downsides I guess. Would really like to hear your input if you had anymore thoughts. Dark times indeed my friend. Stay safe.
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Anyone who kneels and disrespects the flag should never be acknowledged as "American(s)" ever again..... They don't deserve it!
Anyone who kneels and disrespects the flag should never be acknowledged as "American(s)" ever again..... They don't deserve it!
I was wondering when smell of lemon scented bleach, racism, and a profound detachment on reality would rear it's ugly head. Hell even Zomba got a lol out of this! When he starts spouting out his hatred of others and junk science it may be time to lock the thread.
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So, what you seem to be saying is that Americans are not granted the freedom of expression?
Express all you like.... just know that there can be consequences... And sometimes there usually are.... in the meantime we have CNN running 24/7 in the schools brain washing our young.. Yet. we're gonna cow tow to BLM, ANTIFA and all of the other leftist organizations and turn a man who was a drug infested thug. and a member of the porn industry. and make a martyr out him?.. LOL!... Only in America.... You people are deranged!
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Forget all the hoopla. Play the anthem, then have the players run on to the field. Forget all the introductions and fireworks. On gameday, it is a team of 48 or whatever it is. The team hits the field and that is that.
Don't give them the stage. The stage is the game.
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So, what you seem to be saying is that Americans are not granted the freedom of expression?
Express all you like.... just know that there can be consequences... And sometimes there usually are.... in the meantime we have CNN running 24/7 in the schools brain washing our young.. Yet. we're gonna cow tow to BLM, ANTIFA and all of the other leftist organizations and turn a man who was a drug infested thug. and a member of the porn industry. and make a martyr out him?.. LOL!... Only in America.... You people are deranged!
Express all you like.... just know that there can be consequences... And sometimes there usually are.... in the meantime we have CNN running 24/7 in the schools brain washing our young.. Yet. we're gonna cow tow to BLM, ANTIFA and all of the other leftist organizations and turn a man who was a drug infested thug. and a member of the porn industry. and make a martyr out him?.. LOL!... Only in America.... You people are deranged!
Yes, there can be consequences....in the meantime we have Fox News running 24/7 in the schools brain washing our young. We're going to cowtow to QAnon, White Supremacist and all the other right wing organization hate groups who want turn people into Nazi loving, murdering right wing terrorists. LOL.... You people, the ignorant, the racist, the hateful, the greedy, the indecent....you with your cult admiration of a fascist dictator wannabe ? NOT in America.
(now would be a good time to move this)
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