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    Hue Jackson Wanted Browns to Sign Colin Kaepernick in 2017: 'Wasn't My Decision'

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2895029-hue-jackson-wanted-browns-to-sign-colin-kaepernick-in-2017-wasnt-my-decision

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    @vambo said:

    Hue Jackson Wanted Browns to Sign Colin Kaepernick in 2017: 'Wasn't My Decision'

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2895029-hue-jackson-wanted-browns-to-sign-colin-kaepernick-in-2017-wasnt-my-decision

    is anybody surprised? hue blew.

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      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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      Hue Jackson was a poor choice to be a head coach for a young team that was in full tank mode. I'm being nice by saying poor.

      But continuing to run out his record as proof of this makes zero sense. He was bad because he was bad. 

      Anyone put in his position, especially in 2016 and 2017, would have put up a record-setting horrible win-loss record. 

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        Hue Jackson was a poor choice to be a head coach for a young team that was in full tank mode. I'm being nice by saying poor.

        But continuing to run out his record as proof of this makes zero sense. He was bad because he was bad. 

        Anyone put in his position, especially in 2016 and 2017, would have put up a record-setting horrible win-loss record. 

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        @dutch-oven said:

        Anyone put in his position, especially in 2016 and 2017, would have put up a record-setting horrible win-loss record. 

        Yup.  A terribly managed organization.  But with Hue's total ineptness at managing the QB position, and equal ineptness at in game decisions, he was the perfect HC if you were trying to tank.  -  1st and goal on the Steeler ONE yard line, in OT, and we lose the game  -

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          @dutch-oven said:

          Anyone put in his position, especially in 2016 and 2017, would have put up a record-setting horrible win-loss record. 

          Yup.  A terribly managed organization.  But with Hue's total ineptness at managing the QB position, and equal ineptness at in game decisions, he was the perfect HC if you were trying to tank.  -  1st and goal on the Steeler ONE yard line, in OT, and we lose the game  -

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          @orion said:

          Yup.  A terribly managed organization.  But with Hue's total ineptness at managing the QB position, and equal ineptness at in game decisions, he was the perfect HC if you were trying to tank.  -  1st and goal on the Steeler ONE yard line, in OT, and we lose the game  -

          Absolutely... I can't think of a better guy to hire if your plan was to guarantee two #1 picks in a row. 

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            I'll never say he had an easy position, but he didn't make his players better and ended up throwing people under the bus even after becoming the worst coach ever. 

            Proof being that when he finally got fired, the same seaaon with the same roster we ended up performing much better. 

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              I am now convinced Hue is a Trump supporter...

              "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                I am now convinced Hue is a Trump supporter...

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                @tour2ma said:

                I am now convinced Hue is a Trump supporter...

                Early on-set dementia is a son of a bitch. 

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                  @tour2ma said:

                  I am now convinced Hue is a Trump supporter...

                  Early on-set dementia is a son of a bitch. 

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Early on-set dementia is a son of a bitch. 

                  For who?  Trump, or Hue? 

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    Early on-set dementia is a son of a bitch. 

                    For who?  Trump, or Hue? 

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    For who?  Trump, or Hue? 

                    Yes. 

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                      I’m upset he didn’t get to coach a playoff caliber team.  He’s posturing himself in way that makes it seem he’s been more of guy just put in the wrong spots.
                       

                      He’s upset me a little over the past couple years by shifting blame when it should sit squarely on him.  He’s shown very little accountability and I have to wonder if his best performance will be someday convincing another general manager and owner that he should have another shot 
                       

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                        I’m upset he didn’t get to coach a playoff caliber team.  He’s posturing himself in way that makes it seem he’s been more of guy just put in the wrong spots.
                         

                        He’s upset me a little over the past couple years by shifting blame when it should sit squarely on him.  He’s shown very little accountability and I have to wonder if his best performance will be someday convincing another general manager and owner that he should have another shot 
                         

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                        @sdbacker80 said:

                        I’m upset he didn’t get to coach a playoff caliber team.  He’s posturing himself in way that makes it seem he’s been more of guy just put in the wrong spots.
                         

                        He’s upset me a little over the past couple years by shifting blame when it should sit squarely on him.  He’s shown very little accountability and I have to wonder if his best performance will be someday convincing another general manager and owner that he should have another shot 
                         

                        Fuck him.  Why do we need to expend one single cyberbyte on his sorry ass?

                        (is cyberbyte a thing....or did I just make that up?)

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                          Hue Jackson was a poor choice to be a head coach for a young team that was in full tank mode. I'm being nice by saying poor.

                          But continuing to run out his record as proof of this makes zero sense. He was bad because he was bad. 

                          Anyone put in his position, especially in 2016 and 2017, would have put up a record-setting horrible win-loss record. 

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                          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          Hue Jackson was a poor choice to be a head coach for a young team that was in full tank mode. I'm being nice by saying poor.

                          But continuing to run out his record as proof of this makes zero sense. He was bad because he was bad. 

                          Anyone put in his position, especially in 2016 and 2017, would have put up a record-setting horrible win-loss record. 

                          Hindsight is funny in that regard. The only thing I like to point out is that Hue was considered at the time a top 2-3 candidate for a HC gig across the NFL. In fact, most major organizations lauded the Browns for finally being able to snag an "in demand" coach.

                          That said, he obviously overtly failed in the one thing he made his mark on in the league in being able to evaluate, and play, QB talent. I told anyone who'd listen what a God awful mistake Kizer was going to be, and then his "trust me" guy of Kessler as the back-up? That's on Hue BIG time. So honestly, he does deserve to have that record thrown in his face. Not even Don Shula would have won more than 7-8 games with those rosters, but the most important position was his to mold and he beyond fucked it up 2 years in a row.

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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            Hue Jackson was a poor choice to be a head coach for a young team that was in full tank mode. I'm being nice by saying poor.

                            But continuing to run out his record as proof of this makes zero sense. He was bad because he was bad. 

                            Anyone put in his position, especially in 2016 and 2017, would have put up a record-setting horrible win-loss record. 

                            Hindsight is funny in that regard. The only thing I like to point out is that Hue was considered at the time a top 2-3 candidate for a HC gig across the NFL. In fact, most major organizations lauded the Browns for finally being able to snag an "in demand" coach.

                            That said, he obviously overtly failed in the one thing he made his mark on in the league in being able to evaluate, and play, QB talent. I told anyone who'd listen what a God awful mistake Kizer was going to be, and then his "trust me" guy of Kessler as the back-up? That's on Hue BIG time. So honestly, he does deserve to have that record thrown in his face. Not even Don Shula would have won more than 7-8 games with those rosters, but the most important position was his to mold and he beyond fucked it up 2 years in a row.

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                            @jrb12711 said:

                            Hindsight is funny in that regard. The only thing I like to point out is that Hue was considered at the time a top 2-3 candidate for a HC gig across the NFL. In fact, most major organizations lauded the Browns for finally being able to snag an "in demand" coach.

                            That said, he obviously overtly failed in the one thing he made his mark on in the league in being able to evaluate, and play, QB talent. I told anyone who'd listen what a God awful mistake Kizer was going to be, and then his "trust me" guy of Kessler as the back-up? That's on Hue BIG time. So honestly, he does deserve to have that record thrown in his face. Not even Don Shula would have won more than 7-8 games with those rosters, but the most important position was his to mold and he beyond fucked it up 2 years in a row.

                            I admit, I liked the hiring of Hue. 

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                              Hue was the greatest coach ever.  If you don't believe me, just ask him.

                              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                Hue was the greatest coach ever.  If you don't believe me, just ask him.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @ballpeen said:

                                Hue was the greatest coach ever.  If you don't believe me, just ask him.

                                On the other hand the evidence is that he is the worst coach ever based on his record. At least the worst coach that was not the owner of the team

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                                  Hue was on 92 The Fan today.  I guess he's got a book coming out in January that will explain everything.  

                                  He pretty much said that he had no say in who was being drafted or who wouldn't be resigned.  -  The 'committee' set up was touted as all of them having an equal voice and that, if needed, Sashi would make the final decision.  I remember saying many times that Hue's would be 'a voice in the wilderness' that would basically be ignored. 

                                  Man, we've had some of the most terrible front office / coaching tandems in the history of football.  Seemed like non of 'em ever got along.  And, of course, it all stems from the top - Jimmy.  Hopefully, the blind squirrel found a couple of acorns this time.

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                                    Hue was on 92 The Fan today.  I guess he's got a book coming out in January that will explain everything.  

                                    He pretty much said that he had no say in who was being drafted or who wouldn't be resigned.  -  The 'committee' set up was touted as all of them having an equal voice and that, if needed, Sashi would make the final decision.  I remember saying many times that Hue's would be 'a voice in the wilderness' that would basically be ignored. 

                                    Man, we've had some of the most terrible front office / coaching tandems in the history of football.  Seemed like non of 'em ever got along.  And, of course, it all stems from the top - Jimmy.  Hopefully, the blind squirrel found a couple of acorns this time.

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                                      Hopefully, the blind squirrel found a couple of acorns this time.

                                    Actually for the first time I think they have gotten it right from FO thru coaching staff. Most positive I have been in a long time. I was

                                    talking to Canton Mike yesterday about it and we both share that sentiment. The unknown factor will be how COVID-19 affects the season.

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                                        Hopefully, the blind squirrel found a couple of acorns this time.

                                      Actually for the first time I think they have gotten it right from FO thru coaching staff. Most positive I have been in a long time. I was

                                      talking to Canton Mike yesterday about it and we both share that sentiment. The unknown factor will be how COVID-19 affects the season.

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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      for the first time I think they have gotten it right from FO thru coaching staff. Most positive I have been in a long time.

                                      I felt good when we hired Chud as HC and Norv Turner as the OC.  Norv was a long time OC and HC and would've been right there to help Chud grow.  Problem was, we had Jimmy.     Right after the start of the season they traded Trent Richardson away leaving Chud with no RB.  (ultimately a great trade)  Jimmy told the coaching staff to be patient that they're planning for the future.  Then after the season, Mr. Be Patient fired Chud and the front office.  As I recall, Norv Turner blasted him about being told to Be Patient when Jimmuh was addressing the team about the firings.  (I always respected Norv Turner)

                                      Having said that, I DO like Stef.  And I hope he turns out to be a good HC.   - But then, I said the same exact thing at this time last year. 

                                      Last year we had Freddie & Dorsey who seemed like two peas in a pod.  Slightly gruff, old school football guys.  THIS year we have two polished, professional and articulate guys in Berry & Stefanski who, again, seem like two peas in a pod.

                                      I actually prefer the organization be represented by polished, professionals over the bill-hillys.....but ultimately it comes down to, "Just win baby!"

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                                        This is actually true.  

                                        What should this epic fail of a book be named?

                                        I Am The Greatest
                                        Nothing Is My Fault
                                        Confessions Of A QB Whisperer
                                        Huecumber: An American Legend
                                        Awkward Handshakes and Accidental Porn
                                        Blind On The Sideline
                                        When Pride Stopped Mattering: The Life Of Hue Jackson

                                        Any editor who gives this guy an advance.. deserves to lose their money.

                                        The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                                          "Hueless by Nature"

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