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Are We Fans Missing The real Problem With The Browns

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  • I really can't ever get on board with the fans being the problem. Expecting victory and a division title is what they should expect each year (reasonable or not). I mean that should be every player and coaches expectation.

    I'd agree the players started believing their own hype too much (just like DAL).

  • I did not say the fans are the problem, I think we the fans thought this team had more talent based on last years 10 wins and the signings in free agency and the draft picks this year, my point is the team is not as talented as many thought.

    Its not D.A.'s fault that the offensive line is not playing like last year, you can't blame D.A. for Jamal Lewis not having the big games he had last year or the drop passes by Edwards.

    There is a reason we are near last in every offensive catagory this year and it goes beyond the quarterback, some of it is the talent is not as good as we thought and some of it is coaching, but whats obvious is we got 10 wins beating a bunch of poor teams last season.

    With only one legit wide receiver on this team with Stallworth out and Lewis not running like the Lewis of last season has alot to do with the problems on offensive this season and the fact d-coordinators made adjustments when playing the Browns this year and the Browns did not make adjustments.

  • I got what you meant. What I mean is I don't think fans (or the players) had unrealistic expectations or beliefs of this team. I think the team is as talented as fans thought (and the NFL pundents, kind of like ARZ for the last few years). But it isn't showing up the field.

    I think there have been two big issues on this team that has prevented them from hitting the potential. DA and RAC. When the QB and coach aren't getting it done, that trickles all the way threw the team. Because at the end of the day, they are supposed to lead. Both seem to fall into quicksand.

  • You don't blow out the Giants in a dominant fashion like we did if you aren't talented.

    The starters are talented. The team is not deep in talent. It is not consistent (particularly at QB and WR). It is not well-coached.

    But there is talent. I wouldn't say enormous talent that is clearly underachieving like Indy, JAX, and SD appear to be this year, but still talented enough to be in the top 10-12 teams in the league.

  • Why did we blow out the Giants? everything went right that night

    This is the NFL, Kansas City almost beat Tampa Bay, the Lions almost beat the Bears, the Chargers blew out the Patriots week to week any team can beat any team

    Jax and San diego were hit by huge injuries, Jax is playing without most of its starting O-line, San Diego has lost its star playmaker Merriman for the season and oline injuries, Indy has got old and hit by injuries to the oline and Addai.

    Look at the 5 games we lost and what was Jamal Lewis rushing totals?

    On defense we have played better than many thought, but where are the playmakers on D, where are our linebackers when we need a big play on D, linebackers are supposed to be playmakers in a 3-4.

    Savage spent a high 1st round pick on Wimbley and so far he looks like a bust since his great rookie season yet the Steelers have a undrafted free agent in Harrison a 2nd round pick in Woodley and Timmons all playmakers this season, compare that to our linebackers.

    Look at Savage's track record with quarterbacks in Baltimore, Kyle Boller, Charlie Frye, Derek Andersen not very good.

    Name me one defensive stud Savage as drafted

    Romeo wanted Charlie Frye last season as the starter now he is a 3rd string quarterback, so much for RAC evaluation of quarterbacks.

    The player evaluation on this team is not very good and many people over judged this talent based on 10 wins last season

  • well when you protect your QB, no open competition. what do you expect.

  • well when you protect your QB, no open competition. what do you expect.

    @mr.-t said:

    well when you protect your QB, no open competition. what do you expect.

    And that’s why l think we invested so heavily in the OL this offseason. Conklin. Wills Jr. That’s what l’m talking about.

  • @mr.-t said:

    well when you protect your QB, no open competition. what do you expect.

    And that’s why l think we invested so heavily in the OL this offseason. Conklin. Wills Jr. That’s what l’m talking about.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    And that’s why l think we invested so heavily in the OL this offseason. Conklin. Wills Jr. That’s what l’m talking about.

    Did you just respond to a 12 year old comment bleed? ? 

    I'm not even sure how you found this thread!

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    And that’s why l think we invested so heavily in the OL this offseason. Conklin. Wills Jr. That’s what l’m talking about.

    Did you just respond to a 12 year old comment bleed? ? 

    I'm not even sure how you found this thread!

    @dutch-oven said:

    Did you just respond to a 12 year old comment bleed? ? 

    I'm not even sure how you found this thread!

    Shh, playing pranks here. Geez man.

  • Most of these guys have been deceased for many years now.

  • Most of these guys have been deceased for many years now.

    @mjp28 said:

    Most of these guys have been deceased for many years now.

    Well they certainly do not contribute here any more