Washington Redskins

mjp28

Nothing wrong with working your way through YSU I did it twice nothing wrong with $0 in student loans either.

I had four younger brothers and wasn't going to hit my parents up with my education.....they spent enough on my brothers as it was.

I was able to buy a house each time I graduated, something today's students can't even think about with the tuition and especially room and room and board costs.

The stories I heard from nursing and med students in my recent hospital visits were shocking on their loan debts.

gumby73

@brownsfan4evr said:

My wife and I put 6 children through college. 3 boys and 3 girls. Cedarville University, Toleo, U., Miami U., Youngstown U., and 2 at Kent State. 85 TOLEDO grad myself..what year did yours?

Oldest daughter has a mathematics degree and has a government office job in Virginia for a company that builds ships for the military.

And I just want to build the Boats Easy travel from NC..have her do the math & hire me! ? ?

BrownsFan4Evr

He graduated from UT in 2009.

The Gipper

@brownsfan4evr said:

My wife and I put 6 children through college. 3 boys and 3 girls. Cedarville University, Toleo, U., Miami U., Youngstown U., and 2 at Kent State. Oldest daughter has a mathematics degree and has a government office job in Virginia for a company that builds ships for the military.

https://nns.huntingtoningalls.com/

My other two daughters are an occupational therapist, and an R.N. Two sons are data migration consultants with their own companies, and other son is a high school teacher and coach in Connecticut. Not one liberal in the bunch. I think we did alright. Since we're bragging! LOL

I suspect you probably have no clue whether or not they are liberal or not. Mine are both like me pretty center of the road.

TexasAg1969

@dutch-oven said:

Washington Orangeskins.

Every halftime show is Russian hookers peeing on the team's mascot.

Post of the month.?

BrownsFan4Evr

@the-gipper said:

I suspect you probably have no clue whether or not they are liberal or not. Mine are both like me ......... (Then I feel sorry for them)

Since we talk politics and other issues all the time, I know my children's views on things. We all share the same values. I always suspected you were a just being annoying, and now you just proved it. Time to ignore you, because clearly.......

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Vagitron

I always get a good laugh and a eye roll when people indicate how old they are. I'm always shocked that some of you are old enough to have kids let alone put them through college. A few of you act like giant fucking man babies. It's remarkable. I have a 6 year old and I'm fucking awesome. Right, gipper?

The Gipper

@brownsfan4evr said:

Since we talk politics and other issues all the time, I know my children's views on things. We all share the same values. I always suspected you were a just being annoying, and now you just proved it. Time to ignore you, because clearly.......

Fucktard Snowflake

The Gipper

@vagitron said:

I always get a good laugh and a eye roll when people indicate how old they are. I'm always shocked that some of you are old enough to have kids let alone put them through college. A few of you act like giant fucking man babies. It's remarkable. I have a 6 year old and I'm fucking awesome. Right, gipper?

Your children will be Browns fanYour children will be Browns fan

Vagitron

@the-gipper said:

Your children will be Browns fanYour children will be Browns fan

Never going to happen. He already dislikes the Patriots and he knows we don't roll with that shit brown. ?

Gorka

@vagitron said:

I always get a good laugh and a eye roll when people indicate how old they are. I'm always shocked that some of you are old enough to have kids let alone put them through college. A few of you act like giant fucking man babies. It's remarkable. I have a 6 year old and I'm fucking awesome. Right, gipper?

Yeah you're awesome. Did ya have the kid with your cousin or daughter?

Gorka

@the-gipper said:

Your children will be Browns fanYour children will be Browns fan

Ohio children are more inclined to become Steeler fans than Pa. children are inclined to become Browns fans. The inconvenient truth.

Gorka

@dutch-oven said:

Washington Orangeskins.

Then watch you deranged liberal fgts try to impeach a duly established football team.

The Gipper

@gorka said:

Ohio children are more inclined to become Steeler fans than Pa. children are inclined to become Browns fans. The inconvenient truth.

Vag lives in like Columbus

hoorta

@topdawg31 said:

Not so sure the name Indians is considered offensive but what do I know? nothing offends me.

I would doubt "Indian" is offensive to Native Americans- unless they're on the Omar-AOC nut job fringe.

https://www.cleveland.com/tribe/2020/07/the-cleveland-indians-changing-their-name-i-dont-like-it-i-also-understand-it-i-guess-terry-pluto.html

Virtually every religious based school I'm aware of that teaches Native Americans has the word "Indian" in it. St. Joseph's (Lakota Sioux), St. Stephens (Arapaho), St Bonaventure (Navajo), St Labre (Northern Cheyenne)... Then there's the Wind River Indian Reservation & many others..... Um, some other name you'd like us to call you instead?

Sorry- changing the Indians name is going overboard on the PC scale- we got rid of Chief Wahoo to appease the radicals....

Dutch Oven

@gorka said:

Then watch you deranged liberal fgts try to impeach a duly established football team.

Someone knows the Captain Bonespur's Reign of Errors is coming to an end soon, and is very, very cranky. ?

Gorka

@dutch-oven said:

Someone knows the Captain Bonespur's Reign of Errors is coming to an end soon, and is very, very cranky. ?

Gorka

@the-gipper said:

Vag lives in like Columbus

Well there you go. He was a child once.

And sorta still is.

MLD Woody

@hoorta said:

Sorry- changing the Indians name is going overboard on the PC scale- we got rid of Chief Wahoo to appease the radicals....

I wouldn't call thinking there was an issue with chief wahoo "radical"

Bigalow80

I think what we are missing from all of this is once the Indians decided to go away from Chief Wahoo, what they realized is they no longer have a mascot (slider does not count). Personally, I hope they keep the name as it is incredibly generic (unlike redskins or braves) but I think its a losing battle in today's times. Other than the Block C (which I like but from a marketing standpoint is extremely boring and only so much you can do) they have nothing they can brand out with and sell. This is why I think the plan to change the name has been in the works for years. What's going on in today's times gives them the perfect opportunity to make the switch with the least amount of blowback. Yes, there are people who will swear off the team but when you average 15k people in the stands on a 93 win team, how loyal are your fans? They will find a way to negotiate to keep the trademarks on Indians and Chief Wahoo but ultimately this team name is going to change and this is why I believe Spiders is going to be the final answer. There is a connection to the teams history and even though they were bad, they did win a championship. It has tons of marketing and branding potential. It's not overused as a mascot or a symbol. They can call Progressive Field "the web" or whatever spider home you want. It's not tied to the Rock n Roll Hall of fame which we need to get away from as the "only" thing in Cleveland. Guardians is ok and has lots of freedom to design and a connection to the city but it sounds contrived. Long story short, it's all about the marketing potential and the ability to sell merchandise.