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  • Just for shits and giggles, the following are the largest markets in the USA without a team in each particular sports:

    Largest  Dozen  US  Metro areas with no Major League Baseball Team:

    1. Orlando     2. Portland   3.  Charlotte   4. Salt Lake City  5.Sacramento   6. San Antonio   7. Columbus  8. Indianapolis   9.  Las Vegas  10.  Raleigh/Durham  11. Nashville  12.  Virginia Beach

    Largest Dozen US Metro areas with no  NFL team:

    1. Orlando  2. San Diego 3. Portland  4. St. Louis  5. Salt Lake City  6. Sacramento  7. San Antonio  8. Columbus  9.  Raleigh/Durham  10. Milwaukee  11. Virginia Beach  12. Greensboro NC  

    Largest Dozen US Metro areas with no NBA team:

    1. Seattle  2. San Diego  3. St. Louis  4. Pittsburgh  5. Columbus   6. Kansas City  7. Las Vegas  8. Cincinnati  9. Raleigh   10. Nashville   11. Virginia Beach  12. Greensboro NC  

    Largest Dozen  US Metro areas with no  NHL team:

    1. Houston  2. Atlanta  3. Orlando  4. Cleveland  5. San Diego 6. Portland  7. Charlotte  8. Salt Lake City   9. Sacramento  10 San Antonio  11. Kansas City  12.  Indianapolis  12.  Cincinnati.

  • Notes:

    A.  Notice that  neither Buffalo nor Green Bay.....current "big league" cities  are  present.   Green Bay is notorious for being a "small town".....and the Buffalo area is just smaller than all of those other areas listed above.

    B. This was spurred because  Toronto will not allow the Blue Jays to play their games in their home stadium, and they are looking for a place to play here in the US.  Charlotte has been mentioned as a possible place to have them play, and there is some thought that it may be looked at as a location for a future expansion team....if/when that ever takes place. 

    C. While Orlando tops 2 of these lists and is #3 on another....those leagues...NHL/NFL/MLB  consider that market serviced by the teams they have in Tampa Bay....which is only  80 miles away.  In a sense  Tampa/Orlando can be considered one big sports market, even though they are demographically separated. 

  • Now may be a precarious time to pursue an expansion of a major professional sports franchise into your city with the team, stadium and everything else that goes along with a mega million or billion dollar investment.

    But then again with the pandemic still hot is it a good opportunity for some bold investors to make a move like that.

    Taxpayer funding might be scarce or virtually not available so it might have to be done with private investments and maybe tax incentives.

    I guess this is what separates the big money risk takers from the rest of us.  

  • Now may be a precarious time to pursue an expansion of a major professional sports franchise into your city with the team, stadium and everything else that goes along with a mega million or billion dollar investment.

    But then again with the pandemic still hot is it a good opportunity for some bold investors to make a move like that.

    Taxpayer funding might be scarce or virtually not available so it might have to be done with private investments and maybe tax incentives.

    I guess this is what separates the big money risk takers from the rest of us.  

    @mjp28 said:

    Now may be a precarious time to pursue an expansion of a major professional sports franchise into your city with the team, stadium and everything else that goes along with a mega million or billion dollar investment.

    But then again with the pandemic still hot is it a good opportunity for some bold investors to make a move like that.

    Taxpayer funding might be scarce or virtually not available so it might have to be done with private investments and maybe tax incentives.

    I guess this is what separates the big money risk takers from the rest of us.  

    NHL is expanding to Seattle, giving that league 32 teams....just like the NFL.    MLB and NBA still at 30.   32 seems a good number for all  leagues. 

  • I think Portland, Oregon and Montreal would be good locations for expansion teams in MLB. 

  • I would like to see Columbus get a MLB team. Then they could realign and make a division with:

    Cleveland, Pittspuke, Detoilet, Columbus, and Cincy

  • I would also like to see the Cavs traded for the Blue Jackets. To me NHL is a FAR FAR better product then the NBA

  • I would like to see Columbus get a MLB team. Then they could realign and make a division with:

    Cleveland, Pittspuke, Detoilet, Columbus, and Cincy

    @browns149 said:

    I would like to see Columbus get a MLB team. Then they could realign and make a division with:

    Cleveland, Pittspuke, Detoilet, Columbus, and Cincy

    So you want to make the Indians "territory" even smaller by adding a team in Columbus? They already have a relatively small area to draw from. 

  • I would also like to see the Cavs traded for the Blue Jackets. To me NHL is a FAR FAR better product then the NBA

    @browns149 said:

    I would also like to see the Cavs traded for the Blue Jackets. To me NHL is a FAR FAR better product then the NBA

    The Gunds screwed us forever with the NHL, that's why the NHL went with Columbus.

  • @browns149 said:

    I would like to see Columbus get a MLB team. Then they could realign and make a division with:

    Cleveland, Pittspuke, Detoilet, Columbus, and Cincy

    So you want to make the Indians "territory" even smaller by adding a team in Columbus? They already have a relatively small area to draw from. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    So you want to make the Indians "territory" even smaller by adding a team in Columbus? They already have a relatively small area to draw from. 

    Yes. It would be easier for fans of any of those teams to travel to an out of town game on a weekend. Not easy to drive to Minneapolis or Kansas City

  • @browns149 said:

    I would also like to see the Cavs traded for the Blue Jackets. To me NHL is a FAR FAR better product then the NBA

    The Gunds screwed us forever with the NHL, that's why the NHL went with Columbus.

    @bob806 said:

    The Gunds screwed us forever with the NHL, that's why the NHL went with Columbus.

    I figured that the NHL didn’t stay in Cleveland because Cleveland can’t support both NBA and NHL. 
     

    NHL is a much better product IMO

  • @bob806 said:

    The Gunds screwed us forever with the NHL, that's why the NHL went with Columbus.

    I figured that the NHL didn’t stay in Cleveland because Cleveland can’t support both NBA and NHL. 
     

    NHL is a much better product IMO

    @browns149 said:

    I figured that the NHL didn’t stay in Cleveland because Cleveland can’t support both NBA and NHL. 
     

    NHL is a much better product IMO

    The issue is how well  supported will when the teams be not how good of a product it is. Another words it comes down to money

  • Just announced today that Seattle NHL team will be known as The Kraken 

  • Just announced today that Seattle NHL team will be known as The Kraken 

    @the-gipper said:

    Just announced today that Seattle NHL team will be known as The Kraken 

    Ok.. this is cool & welcome back major sports!! 

  • Still.....kind of a stupid name. Orcas or Sockeye Salmon would have been better   

  • Just announced today that Seattle NHL team will be known as The Kraken 

    @the-gipper said:

    Just announced today that Seattle NHL team will be known as The Kraken 

    So will their arena be known as the "Krak House"?

    Making their fans "Krak heads"? 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So you want to make the Indians "territory" even smaller by adding a team in Columbus? They already have a relatively small area to draw from. 

    Yes. It would be easier for fans of any of those teams to travel to an out of town game on a weekend. Not easy to drive to Minneapolis or Kansas City

    @browns149 said:

    Yes. It would be easier for fans of any of those teams to travel to an out of town game on a weekend. Not easy to drive to Minneapolis or Kansas City

    And you would eliminate the ability of the Indians to draw interest and fans from a city approaching a million people by putting a team there.

    I am all aboard with trading the Cavs for the Blue Jackets, though. 

  • @browns149 said:

    Yes. It would be easier for fans of any of those teams to travel to an out of town game on a weekend. Not easy to drive to Minneapolis or Kansas City

    And you would eliminate the ability of the Indians to draw interest and fans from a city approaching a million people by putting a team there.

    I am all aboard with trading the Cavs for the Blue Jackets, though. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And you would eliminate the ability of the Indians to draw interest and fans from a city approaching a million people by putting a team there.

    I am all aboard with trading the Cavs for the Blue Jackets, though. 

    Not sure the Indians are getting too many fans from Columbus. Knowing people that live there, most of them like Cincinnati 

  • Now may be a precarious time to pursue an expansion of a major professional sports franchise into your city with the team, stadium and everything else that goes along with a mega million or billion dollar investment.

    But then again with the pandemic still hot is it a good opportunity for some bold investors to make a move like that.

    Taxpayer funding might be scarce or virtually not available so it might have to be done with private investments and maybe tax incentives.

    I guess this is what separates the big money risk takers from the rest of us.  

    @mjp28 said:

    Now may be a precarious time to pursue an expansion of a major professional sports franchise into your city with the team, stadium and everything else that goes along with a mega million or billion dollar investment.

    But then again with the pandemic still hot is it a good opportunity for some bold investors to make a move like that.

    Taxpayer funding might be scarce or virtually not available so it might have to be done with private investments and maybe tax incentives.

    I guess this is what separates the big money risk takers from the rest of us.  

    Bro, none of the old rules apply. All sports will nose dive in revenues. How can they not?

  • @browns149 said:

    Yes. It would be easier for fans of any of those teams to travel to an out of town game on a weekend. Not easy to drive to Minneapolis or Kansas City

    And you would eliminate the ability of the Indians to draw interest and fans from a city approaching a million people by putting a team there.

    I am all aboard with trading the Cavs for the Blue Jackets, though. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And you would eliminate the ability of the Indians to draw interest and fans from a city approaching a million people by putting a team there.

    I am all aboard with trading the Cavs for the Blue Jackets, though. 

    Another factor, many of those cities host a AAA team.  Then a team would have to find another location for its AAA team.