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  • 1 year later & still crickets later...  https://ips-dc.org/how-congress-manufactured-a-postal-crisis-and-how-to-fix-it/      

    btw, quit taking your carrier's nickels.. The price of a Stamp went up to 55 cents months ago.. ?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    With a mindset like this, we would still have the pony express, quills & inkwells, and horse and buggies.

    Subsidized deliveries of junk mail and other nonsense is nothing more than wasted taxpayer money.

    The only time I mail a letter is when I pay my property taxes, only because the local governments haven’t evolved in the 21st century.

    Then you're missing the point. The post office has evolved. There can be efficiencies- but this isn't the time to implement them. LOL, I'll talk to you about wasted taxpayer money after we cut a few hundred billion out of the defense budget. We spend more than the next 9 countries on military expenditures- combined.... 

    @hoorta said:

    Then you're missing the point. The post office has evolved. There can be efficiencies- but this isn't the time to implement them. LOL, I'll talk to you about wasted taxpayer money after we cut a few hundred billion out of the defense budget. We spend more than the next 9 countries on military expenditures- combined.... 

  • @jafbf said:

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    now, don't confuse Hoorta and his little woodpecker with facts. They HATE that

  • And of course since we already knew 95% of that the only thing some people need to do is to spin it so they can attack the president. If Mike Pence John McCain or Barack Obama were president you'd probably agree with the fact did the post office really needs overhauled. But it's so much more fun to cry about voter suppression isn't it?

    Anyway as for the people who lived in the Sticks well, shit happens. You know how hard it is to find a good blacksmith these days? Inefficient paper correspondence is being taken over by Leaps and Bounds by Electronic media. Sorry, that's just the way it goes. So if you live a hundred miles from nowhere that's going to be one of the pains in the ass you'll have to live with. Maybe once or twice a week Drive 25 or 50 miles to a central location and pick up your junk mail there.

    Also a lot of money as Wasted by putting the post office FedEx UPS you name it in high traffic areas. No need for that. Delivery locations are actually destinations. So what would be a lot cheaper put it somewhere else. Meaning. In the shopping center with the most expensive rental rates imaginable. My friend at the post office is also talking about clusters of boxes and every neighborhood. Like you would see it at apartment building but in the suburbs. That would cut down on a lot of time and effort. 

    But like with so many other things that are completely or  mostly or even partially government-funded there's no particular urgency to do anything more efficiently.

    And who knows? It might be a good thing for America to have to spend at least a little bit of time to get their mail. Or a little bit of effort? As it is we sit in front of the big screen all day long and wait for Amazon to bring us our shit. We would scream bloody murder if we had to get in the car and drive 1/2 Mile to pick up the mail.

    WSS

  • Business models and innovation become irrelevant, when you always have taxpayers shore up the bottom line.

  • It's not spin. It's obvious. Trump said it out loud. His goal is apparent, and that's to make it harder to vote.

    It's spin to try and make it something else

  • It's not spin. It's obvious. Trump said it out loud. His goal is apparent, and that's to make it harder to vote.

    It's spin to try and make it something else

    @mld-woody said:

    It's not spin. It's obvious. Trump said it out loud. His goal is apparent, and that's to make it harder to vote.

    It's spin to try and make it something else

    The Post Office is outdated...we don’t need a government official to tell us that.

  • Business models and innovation become irrelevant, when you always have taxpayers shore up the bottom line.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Business models and innovation become irrelevant, when you always have taxpayers shore up the bottom line.

    While they should definitely look to be efficient and improve, the USPS also isn't a normal business. It's a service provided to Americans

    Another way to look at it, how much money does the military "lose" every year? You want to address wasteful government spending then start with the big dogs

  • @mld-woody said:

    It's not spin. It's obvious. Trump said it out loud. His goal is apparent, and that's to make it harder to vote.

    It's spin to try and make it something else

    The Post Office is outdated...we don’t need a government official to tell us that.

    @canton-dawg said:

    The Post Office is outdated...we don’t need a government official to tell us that.

    Not saying it isn't. 

    But doing all of this now, right before an election, where many people are going to want to vote by mail, after he's gone on and on about "voter fraud" through mail...

    ... I mean come on. It's obvious.

    Through in all of the right wing "news" outlets pumping out as many "vote by mail bad!" stories as they can each day and it should be blindingly obvious what's going on.

    There's no way you could think this is a genuine attempt by Trump to just want to improve the USPS or something

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Business models and innovation become irrelevant, when you always have taxpayers shore up the bottom line.

    While they should definitely look to be efficient and improve, the USPS also isn't a normal business. It's a service provided to Americans

    Another way to look at it, how much money does the military "lose" every year? You want to address wasteful government spending then start with the big dogs

    @mld-woody said:

    While they should definitely look to be efficient and improve, the USPS also isn't a normal business. It's a service provided to Americans

    You’re right, my daily mail consists of 99% junk mail. We need taxpayers to help pay for that delivery.

    Another way to look at it, how much money does the military "lose" every year? You want to address wasteful government spending then start with the big dogs

    I find the military spending a necessary evil these days. There’s plenty of people in the world that would love to create another 9-11.

  • @mld-woody said:

    While they should definitely look to be efficient and improve, the USPS also isn't a normal business. It's a service provided to Americans

    You’re right, my daily mail consists of 99% junk mail. We need taxpayers to help pay for that delivery.

    Another way to look at it, how much money does the military "lose" every year? You want to address wasteful government spending then start with the big dogs

    I find the military spending a necessary evil these days. There’s plenty of people in the world that would love to create another 9-11.

    @canton-dawg said:

    And there are people that get medications through the mail. Sounds necessary as well. 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    And there are people that get medications through the mail. Sounds necessary as well. 

    @mld-woody said:

    And there are people that get medications through the mail. Sounds necessary as well. 

    I get medications delivered...by UPS.

  • I get meds from the VA through USPS.  Never had a problem.  They provide a tracking number.

  • Only had problem with USPS a few times.  Once didn't receive a couple of bills (found out a temp was delivering mail), and a few times received mail from same address but different street.  I always put the mail back into a USPS box redeliver.  I suspect some assholes just throw the mail away.

  • The wife bought me a Father’s Day gift in May, it was delivered the last week of July.

    The Post Office delivered it to the wrong house...twice.

  • The wife bought me a Father’s Day gift in May, it was delivered the last week of July.

    The Post Office delivered it to the wrong house...twice.

    @canton-dawg said:

    The wife bought me a Father’s Day gift in May, it was delivered the last week of July.

    The Post Office delivered it to the wrong house...twice.

    Bacon of the Month Club?

  • Speaking of Spin 5 days ago it was reported that the president told your girlfriend Nancy to send him a clean bill what the emergency funding for the Post Office and he would sign it.

    So guess why that hasn't happened? So a bunch of assholes can squeal about voter suppression.

    WSS

  • @canton-dawg said:

    The wife bought me a Father’s Day gift in May, it was delivered the last week of July.

    The Post Office delivered it to the wrong house...twice.

    Bacon of the Month Club?

    @hammertime said:

    Bacon of the Month Club?

    No, it was actually a pretty nifty flashlight.

    Funny thing, both times after it was delivered to the wrong address it was shipped back to Texas where it originated.

    If it was bacon, or any other perishable item, it would have definitely spoiled.

  • @westside-steve said:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-post-offices-problem-isnt-trump-11597360885

    Just so we don't have to keep hijacking threads to talk about the postal service.

    WSS

    Yes Steve- knew 95% of that. So what you going to do for those folks living out in the stix?  Think UPS or Fedex are going to want to lose millions servicing them? Cut out Saturday first class mail? All for it. Make junk mailers pay their fair share? Sure- they probably get charged a few bucks per ton of delivery. 

    Said it elsewhere- this is not the time to go screwing with the USPS business model right before the election. The problems may not be Trump's fault- but he sure as hell turned it into a political football with some remarks that certainly sound like he's suppressing mail delivery. 

    As to the Post Office being a financial sinkhole with no bottom- saw an interesting thought. They're a service provided for by the government.  Um BTW- so is the US military- with around $700 billion in discretionary spending. The $25 billion the Democrats want to spend to prop up the USPS through the end of the year is approaching the level of pissing in the ocean of red ink created by the military and their never ending wish list for new toys- that we're probably never going to need. And if the US government was run as a business (like some want to do with the Post office) it would have been declared bankrupt years ago. Except- Uncle Sam can keep on printing money he doesn't have. The national debt load (just checked) is $70,000 per capita.  Considering kids under 10 don't work- and retirees- you can effectively at least double that for people who are actually working. 

    @hoorta said:

    Yes Steve- knew 95% of that. So what you going to do for those folks living out in the stix?  Think UPS or Fedex are going to want to lose millions servicing them? Cut out Saturday first class mail? All for it. Make junk mailers pay their fair share? Sure- they probably get charged a few bucks per ton of delivery. 

    Said it elsewhere- this is not the time to go screwing with the USPS business model right before the election. The problems may not be Trump's fault- but he sure as hell turned it into a political football with some remarks that certainly sound like he's suppressing mail delivery. 

    As to the Post Office being a financial sinkhole with no bottom- saw an interesting thought. They're a service provided for by the government.  Um BTW- so is the US military- with around $700 billion in discretionary spending. The $25 billion the Democrats want to spend to prop up the USPS through the end of the year is approaching the level of pissing in the ocean of red ink created by the military and their never ending wish list for new toys- that we're probably never going to need. And if the US government was run as a business (like some want to do with the Post office) it would have been declared bankrupt years ago. Except- Uncle Sam can keep on printing money he doesn't have. The national debt load (just checked) is $70,000 per capita.  Considering kids under 10 don't work- and retirees- you can effectively at least double that for people who are actually working. 

    Crowd protests outside US Postmaster's North Carolina home

    • Aug 17, 2020
    postmaster
     
    So a crowd of 100 or more people protest that they want to vote by mail because in person voting is dangerous because it puts you in contact with others and might be crowded !!! You can't make this stuff up !!! HA stupid is as stupid does.
     
  • Just shows they are liars - the truth is, mail in ballots are their ticket to winning the upcoming critical election.

    fraud.

    they want it to happen badly.