The post office
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It's not spin. It's obvious. Trump said it out loud. His goal is apparent, and that's to make it harder to vote.
It's spin to try and make it something else
So why is vote by mail bad when Trump is actually suing two states about mail in voting?
And you can't make this crap up. Just got a postcard from the Ohio Republican Committee- this is verbatim off the card.....
Join
President Trump
& VOTE BY ABSENTEE BALLOT!
"I will be an absentee voter. We have a lot of absentee voters. It works, so we are in favor of absentee." DT
But don't let some states mail out absentee ballot requests Donnie- got it.... I'm going to spit on that card before I burn it. For the record, I'll vote in person on November 3rd.
So why is vote by mail bad when Trump is actually suing two states about mail in voting?
And you can't make this crap up. Just got a postcard from the Ohio Republican Committee- this is verbatim off the card.....
Join
President Trump
& VOTE BY ABSENTEE BALLOT!
"I will be an absentee voter. We have a lot of absentee voters. It works, so we are in favor of absentee." DT
But don't let some states mail out absentee ballot requests Donnie- got it.... I'm going to spit on that card before I burn it. For the record, I'll vote in person on November 3rd.
I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
So why is vote by mail bad when Trump is actually suing two states about mail in voting?
And you can't make this crap up. Just got a postcard from the Ohio Republican Committee- this is verbatim off the card.....
Join
President Trump
& VOTE BY ABSENTEE BALLOT!
"I will be an absentee voter. We have a lot of absentee voters. It works, so we are in favor of absentee." DT
But don't let some states mail out absentee ballot requests Donnie- got it.... I'm going to spit on that card before I burn it. For the record, I'll vote in person on November 3rd.
I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
Save your breath, the Libs still don’t know the difference between legal immigrants and illegal aliens.
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So why is vote by mail bad when Trump is actually suing two states about mail in voting?
And you can't make this crap up. Just got a postcard from the Ohio Republican Committee- this is verbatim off the card.....
Join
President Trump
& VOTE BY ABSENTEE BALLOT!
"I will be an absentee voter. We have a lot of absentee voters. It works, so we are in favor of absentee." DT
But don't let some states mail out absentee ballot requests Donnie- got it.... I'm going to spit on that card before I burn it. For the record, I'll vote in person on November 3rd.
I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
I think Hoorta might be deliberately having some sick fun with known false narratives. Squawks about them like an angry pink flamingo.
Either that, or TDS is taking it's toll on his psyche.
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So why is vote by mail bad when Trump is actually suing two states about mail in voting?
And you can't make this crap up. Just got a postcard from the Ohio Republican Committee- this is verbatim off the card.....
Join
President Trump
& VOTE BY ABSENTEE BALLOT!
"I will be an absentee voter. We have a lot of absentee voters. It works, so we are in favor of absentee." DT
But don't let some states mail out absentee ballot requests Donnie- got it.... I'm going to spit on that card before I burn it. For the record, I'll vote in person on November 3rd.
I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
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I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
If it's not a big deal why not wait until 2024 and iron out all the bugs why rush this if it's not perfected? Why are the Dems making a big deal of it?
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Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
If it's not a big deal why not wait until 2024 and iron out all the bugs why rush this if it's not perfected? Why are the Dems making a big deal of it?
If it's not a big deal why not wait until 2024 and iron out all the bugs why rush this if it's not perfected? Why are the Dems making a big deal of it?
Because Trump has it in his mind only absentee ballots are OK, not mail in ones. Never mind several states have used mail in ballots for years.
I'll even grant you the 1% chance some ballots went out to people who are dead, or recently moved. That would assume dishonesty on the part of the person who recieved one by mistake to fill it out, and mail it back. And I've heard the signatures are checked against those on file, so that should stop most of that fraud.
Why are the Dems making a big deal out of it? Because Trump is actively trying to suppress mail in voting. Or did you miss he's suing Nevada over it? Another big deal when his lackey Postmaster General is decommissioning and removing mail sorting machines. Add in, recent surveys are showing far more Democrats intend to vote by mail than Republicans. Not Rocket Science what Trump is trying to do.
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I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
If thats true how do dogs and people who have been dead for years get them? I don't buy that for a second. There is definitely a difference.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I think your confusing absentee ballot with mail in ballots. Absentee ballots require prior registration and verification before a ballot will be sent. Mail in ballots in some states require no registration. They are just being mailed to mailing lists.
Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
Um, yes you sure the hell ARE. There IS a big difference - stop swimming in Egypt...don't drink while swimming...
Judicial Watch Finds Millions of ‘Extra’ Registrants on ...
Jan 02, 2020 · Judicial Watch found major voting list issues in California, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Virginia, and Colorado. The following counties have excessive registration rates or have failed to cancel sufficient numbers of ineligible registrations: Colorado. Jefferson County. California. Imperial County. Monterey County. Orange County. Riverside County
Are States Purging Or Cleaning Voter Registration Rolls? : NPR
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/790319853
Dec 20, 2019 · So, for example, Georgia earlier this week took 300,000 inactive voters off the registration lists. That's still being challenged in court. But …
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Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
If thats true how do dogs and people who have been dead for years get them? I don't buy that for a second. There is definitely a difference.
If thats true how do dogs and people who have been dead for years get them? I don't buy that for a second. There is definitely a difference.
I mentioned there definitely is a possibility- even a probability that stuff happens when voter rolls don't get updated. Is that a widespread problem Trump is making it out to be? MHO is it's not. Sure, someone could register their dog and try and get away with it. LOL, maybe I should register my cat Norman.
But that does qualify as voter fraud, and you could go to jail for doing so. Happened a lot more frequently years ago where folks would register under multiple addresses and vote in person at 3-4 polling places. That sort of stuff gets cross referenced now. As you say- it's still not perfect by any means.
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If thats true how do dogs and people who have been dead for years get them? I don't buy that for a second. There is definitely a difference.
I mentioned there definitely is a possibility- even a probability that stuff happens when voter rolls don't get updated. Is that a widespread problem Trump is making it out to be? MHO is it's not. Sure, someone could register their dog and try and get away with it. LOL, maybe I should register my cat Norman.
But that does qualify as voter fraud, and you could go to jail for doing so. Happened a lot more frequently years ago where folks would register under multiple addresses and vote in person at 3-4 polling places. That sort of stuff gets cross referenced now. As you say- it's still not perfect by any means.
I mentioned there definitely is a possibility- even a probability that stuff happens when voter rolls don't get updated. Is that a widespread problem Trump is making it out to be? MHO is it's not. Sure, someone could register their dog and try and get away with it. LOL, maybe I should register my cat Norman.
But that does qualify as voter fraud, and you could go to jail for doing so. Happened a lot more frequently years ago where folks would register under multiple addresses and vote in person at 3-4 polling places. That sort of stuff gets cross referenced now. As you say- it's still not perfect by any means.
bad opiniion you have. how many registered voters.....1 in 8 are FAULTY?
One in 8 U.S. voter registrations faulty: survey - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-vote-idUSTRE81D19720120214
Feb 14, 2012 · One in eight U.S. voter registrations is invalid or markedly inaccurate, the result of an outdated and inefficient registration system, a Pew Center on the States report said on Tuesday.
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Um, no I'm not. Where do you suppose they get the addresses to send out those mail in ballots? Registered voter lists? I know damn well Trump wants to make a big frickin' deal about the difference.
Um, yes you sure the hell ARE. There IS a big difference - stop swimming in Egypt...don't drink while swimming...
Judicial Watch Finds Millions of ‘Extra’ Registrants on ...
Jan 02, 2020 · Judicial Watch found major voting list issues in California, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Virginia, and Colorado. The following counties have excessive registration rates or have failed to cancel sufficient numbers of ineligible registrations: Colorado. Jefferson County. California. Imperial County. Monterey County. Orange County. Riverside County
Are States Purging Or Cleaning Voter Registration Rolls? : NPR
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/790319853
Dec 20, 2019 · So, for example, Georgia earlier this week took 300,000 inactive voters off the registration lists. That's still being challenged in court. But …
Um, yes you sure the hell ARE. There IS a big difference - stop swimming in Egypt...don't drink while swimming...
Judicial Watch Finds Millions of ‘Extra’ Registrants on ...
Jan 02, 2020 · Judicial Watch found major voting list issues in California, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Virginia, and Colorado. The following counties have excessive registration rates or have failed to cancel sufficient numbers of ineligible registrations: Colorado. Jefferson County. California. Imperial County. Monterey County. Orange County. Riverside County
Are States Purging Or Cleaning Voter Registration Rolls? : NPR
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/790319853
Dec 20, 2019 · So, for example, Georgia earlier this week took 300,000 inactive voters off the registration lists. That's still being challenged in court. But …
What did I just say- states are being lax on updating their voter lists.... And how many of those millions are actually going to vote? I suppose the next thing you're going to say is California is mailing out ballots to migrant workers from Mexico....
The problem is easily solved. Every 4 years mail out postcards asking folks if they still want to be registered, and doing a computer cross check on their records...
That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States... My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number....
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If it's not a big deal why not wait until 2024 and iron out all the bugs why rush this if it's not perfected? Why are the Dems making a big deal of it?
Because Trump has it in his mind only absentee ballots are OK, not mail in ones. Never mind several states have used mail in ballots for years.
I'll even grant you the 1% chance some ballots went out to people who are dead, or recently moved. That would assume dishonesty on the part of the person who recieved one by mistake to fill it out, and mail it back. And I've heard the signatures are checked against those on file, so that should stop most of that fraud.
Why are the Dems making a big deal out of it? Because Trump is actively trying to suppress mail in voting. Or did you miss he's suing Nevada over it? Another big deal when his lackey Postmaster General is decommissioning and removing mail sorting machines. Add in, recent surveys are showing far more Democrats intend to vote by mail than Republicans. Not Rocket Science what Trump is trying to do.
Because Trump has it in his mind only absentee ballots are OK, not mail in ones. Never mind several states have used mail in ballots for years.
I'll even grant you the 1% chance some ballots went out to people who are dead, or recently moved. That would assume dishonesty on the part of the person who recieved one by mistake to fill it out, and mail it back. And I've heard the signatures are checked against those on file, so that should stop most of that fraud.
Why are the Dems making a big deal out of it? Because Trump is actively trying to suppress mail in voting. Or did you miss he's suing Nevada over it? Another big deal when his lackey Postmaster General is decommissioning and removing mail sorting machines. Add in, recent surveys are showing far more Democrats intend to vote by mail than Republicans. Not Rocket Science what Trump is trying to do.
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Um, yes you sure the hell ARE. There IS a big difference - stop swimming in Egypt...don't drink while swimming...
Judicial Watch Finds Millions of ‘Extra’ Registrants on ...
Jan 02, 2020 · Judicial Watch found major voting list issues in California, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Virginia, and Colorado. The following counties have excessive registration rates or have failed to cancel sufficient numbers of ineligible registrations: Colorado. Jefferson County. California. Imperial County. Monterey County. Orange County. Riverside County
Are States Purging Or Cleaning Voter Registration Rolls? : NPR
https://www.npr.org/2019/12/20/790319853
Dec 20, 2019 · So, for example, Georgia earlier this week took 300,000 inactive voters off the registration lists. That's still being challenged in court. But …
What did I just say- states are being lax on updating their voter lists.... And how many of those millions are actually going to vote? I suppose the next thing you're going to say is California is mailing out ballots to migrant workers from Mexico....
The problem is easily solved. Every 4 years mail out postcards asking folks if they still want to be registered, and doing a computer cross check on their records...
That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States... My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number....
What did I just say- states are being lax on updating their voter lists.... And how many of those millions are actually going to vote? I suppose the next thing you're going to say is California is mailing out ballots to migrant workers from Mexico....
The problem is easily solved. Every 4 years mail out postcards asking folks if they still want to be registered, and doing a computer cross check on their records...
That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States... My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number....
Easiest way voter ID and "Are you a US citizen" on the census.
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Because Trump has it in his mind only absentee ballots are OK, not mail in ones. Never mind several states have used mail in ballots for years.
I'll even grant you the 1% chance some ballots went out to people who are dead, or recently moved. That would assume dishonesty on the part of the person who recieved one by mistake to fill it out, and mail it back. And I've heard the signatures are checked against those on file, so that should stop most of that fraud.
Why are the Dems making a big deal out of it? Because Trump is actively trying to suppress mail in voting. Or did you miss he's suing Nevada over it? Another big deal when his lackey Postmaster General is decommissioning and removing mail sorting machines. Add in, recent surveys are showing far more Democrats intend to vote by mail than Republicans. Not Rocket Science what Trump is trying to do.
Why the need for mail in voting? Never had an entire mail in vote before? 1 in five were invalid recently that's quite a few if over 100,000,000 vote. Wait until 2024 then try it why rush?
Those machines were scheduled to be decommissioned before Trump.
Oh, I mostly agree.... The push for mail voting has everything to do with covid- and those who are paranoid to get out in public.... Obviously I'm not one of the paranoids. I'll wear my mask to the polls and bring plenty of hand sanitizer when I vote in person November 3rd. But that's what I just was getting at V.... Those invalid votes got caught. No? It's only Trump and his minions who are bringing up "massive mail voter fraud"- when everything I've seen elsewhere (other than Cal's far right gibberish) says the amount of actual voter fraud relative to the number of votes cast is minuscule.....
Regarding the bold that's news to me, and just about everyone else.... LeJoy is going to have to face madder than a wet hen Pelosi and a bunch of Democrats tomorrow explaining exactly why all of a sudden those sorters magically became obsolete right before the election.....
To a certain extent- I agree with Steve, the post office does need to be more efficient. Pony Express in an age of email? Got it. But it's not written in stone we need 6 day first class mail delivery. Guess you need to have a "critical" category for prescriptions and such, but for everything else- M-W-F works for me...
And don't blame the Mail Carriers for the problems- they work their asses off. I told our lady mail carrier she should take up mountain climbing- she'd be good at it. Not just the miles on her route, take the 3-4 steps getting up to the mailboxes of the 700 houses on her route. For the record- that would be equivalent to hiking up to the top of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago twice, every day.
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Why the need for mail in voting? Never had an entire mail in vote before? 1 in five were invalid recently that's quite a few if over 100,000,000 vote. Wait until 2024 then try it why rush?
Those machines were scheduled to be decommissioned before Trump.
Oh, I mostly agree.... The push for mail voting has everything to do with covid- and those who are paranoid to get out in public.... Obviously I'm not one of the paranoids. I'll wear my mask to the polls and bring plenty of hand sanitizer when I vote in person November 3rd. But that's what I just was getting at V.... Those invalid votes got caught. No? It's only Trump and his minions who are bringing up "massive mail voter fraud"- when everything I've seen elsewhere (other than Cal's far right gibberish) says the amount of actual voter fraud relative to the number of votes cast is minuscule.....
Regarding the bold that's news to me, and just about everyone else.... LeJoy is going to have to face madder than a wet hen Pelosi and a bunch of Democrats tomorrow explaining exactly why all of a sudden those sorters magically became obsolete right before the election.....
To a certain extent- I agree with Steve, the post office does need to be more efficient. Pony Express in an age of email? Got it. But it's not written in stone we need 6 day first class mail delivery. Guess you need to have a "critical" category for prescriptions and such, but for everything else- M-W-F works for me...
And don't blame the Mail Carriers for the problems- they work their asses off. I told our lady mail carrier she should take up mountain climbing- she'd be good at it. Not just the miles on her route, take the 3-4 steps getting up to the mailboxes of the 700 houses on her route. For the record- that would be equivalent to hiking up to the top of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago twice, every day.
Oh, I mostly agree.... The push for mail voting has everything to do with covid- and those who are paranoid to get out in public.... Obviously I'm not one of the paranoids. I'll wear my mask to the polls and bring plenty of hand sanitizer when I vote in person November 3rd. But that's what I just was getting at V.... Those invalid votes got caught. No? It's only Trump and his minions who are bringing up "massive mail voter fraud"- when everything I've seen elsewhere (other than Cal's far right gibberish) says the amount of actual voter fraud relative to the number of votes cast is minuscule.....
Regarding the bold that's news to me, and just about everyone else.... LeJoy is going to have to face madder than a wet hen Pelosi and a bunch of Democrats tomorrow explaining exactly why all of a sudden those sorters magically became obsolete right before the election.....
To a certain extent- I agree with Steve, the post office does need to be more efficient. Pony Express in an age of email? Got it. But it's not written in stone we need 6 day first class mail delivery. Guess you need to have a "critical" category for prescriptions and such, but for everything else- M-W-F works for me...
And don't blame the Mail Carriers for the problems- they work their asses off. I told our lady mail carrier she should take up mountain climbing- she'd be good at it. Not just the miles on her route, take the 3-4 steps getting up to the mailboxes of the 700 houses on her route. For the record- that would be equivalent to hiking up to the top of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago twice, every day.
So masks don't work?
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What did I just say- states are being lax on updating their voter lists.... And how many of those millions are actually going to vote? I suppose the next thing you're going to say is California is mailing out ballots to migrant workers from Mexico....
The problem is easily solved. Every 4 years mail out postcards asking folks if they still want to be registered, and doing a computer cross check on their records...
That's your problem Cal- you'll believe almost anything if it fits your narrative.... 1 in 8? Please. There's roughly 150 million registered voters in the United States... My calculator says 1\8th equals 19 million- almost double the population of the state of Ohio... You're the one swimming in Egypt if you want to believe that number....
Easiest way voter ID and "Are you a US citizen" on the census.
Easiest way voter ID and "Are you a US citizen" on the census.
True, but you can lie, and no one is going to check on the truthfulness of your answers...
FWIW, 10 years back- I was one of the unlucky ones who got fingered for an "extensive" Census questionnaire. I was sorely tempted to just answer complete bullshit to f**k up the works. How many people live here? 15. What's your nationality? Antarctican... What is your family income? $3 billion a year... You get my point.
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Oh, I mostly agree.... The push for mail voting has everything to do with covid- and those who are paranoid to get out in public.... Obviously I'm not one of the paranoids. I'll wear my mask to the polls and bring plenty of hand sanitizer when I vote in person November 3rd. But that's what I just was getting at V.... Those invalid votes got caught. No? It's only Trump and his minions who are bringing up "massive mail voter fraud"- when everything I've seen elsewhere (other than Cal's far right gibberish) says the amount of actual voter fraud relative to the number of votes cast is minuscule.....
Regarding the bold that's news to me, and just about everyone else.... LeJoy is going to have to face madder than a wet hen Pelosi and a bunch of Democrats tomorrow explaining exactly why all of a sudden those sorters magically became obsolete right before the election.....
To a certain extent- I agree with Steve, the post office does need to be more efficient. Pony Express in an age of email? Got it. But it's not written in stone we need 6 day first class mail delivery. Guess you need to have a "critical" category for prescriptions and such, but for everything else- M-W-F works for me...
And don't blame the Mail Carriers for the problems- they work their asses off. I told our lady mail carrier she should take up mountain climbing- she'd be good at it. Not just the miles on her route, take the 3-4 steps getting up to the mailboxes of the 700 houses on her route. For the record- that would be equivalent to hiking up to the top of the Willis (formerly Sears) Tower in Chicago twice, every day.
So masks don't work?
So masks don't work?
Ah- come on they're not totally effective, but they do reduce the risk- and that's a fact Jack... Some would only feel comfortable walking around outside in space suits they're so paranoid. But if you want to tempt fate, and not wear one- your call...
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Easiest way voter ID and "Are you a US citizen" on the census.
True, but you can lie, and no one is going to check on the truthfulness of your answers...
FWIW, 10 years back- I was one of the unlucky ones who got fingered for an "extensive" Census questionnaire. I was sorely tempted to just answer complete bullshit to f**k up the works. How many people live here? 15. What's your nationality? Antarctican... What is your family income? $3 billion a year... You get my point.
True, but you can lie, and no one is going to check on the truthfulness of your answers...
FWIW, 10 years back- I was one of the unlucky ones who got fingered for an "extensive" Census questionnaire. I was sorely tempted to just answer complete bullshit to f**k up the works. How many people live here? 15. What's your nationality? Antarctican... What is your family income? $3 billion a year... You get my point.
Good reason not to do mail in voting it's harder to lie in person. thank you.
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