Mack Wilson suffers knee injury, undergoing evaluation
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Here's the problem the Browns may have had with the idea of giving Schobert a big contract...
Myles Garrett, Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward and Nick Chubb are all better or more important, and all will command big contracts too. (Garrett already got his)
I believe you may have nailed it. Unfortunately, in today's NFL, you can't keep them all but it's always tough to lose a high character, productive, loyal guy like Joe. It's a coin toss & I worry a bit about Ward's long term durability. Good LBs tend to have long & productive careers, so we'll see. Time will tell
Mike
I believe you may have nailed it. Unfortunately, in today's NFL, you can't keep them all but it's always tough to lose a high character, productive, loyal guy like Joe. It's a coin toss & I worry a bit about Ward's long term durability. Good LBs tend to have long & productive careers, so we'll see. Time will tell
Mike
That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
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I believe you may have nailed it. Unfortunately, in today's NFL, you can't keep them all but it's always tough to lose a high character, productive, loyal guy like Joe. It's a coin toss & I worry a bit about Ward's long term durability. Good LBs tend to have long & productive careers, so we'll see. Time will tell
Mike
That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
I almost posted as you did, but thought saying it might start a war on the board due to Chubb's popularity. That being said, Chubb just may be one of those backs with long term value.
Mike
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I believe you may have nailed it. Unfortunately, in today's NFL, you can't keep them all but it's always tough to lose a high character, productive, loyal guy like Joe. It's a coin toss & I worry a bit about Ward's long term durability. Good LBs tend to have long & productive careers, so we'll see. Time will tell
Mike
That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
I sense Chubb is more about 'winning'.. And if he reads any paper clippings? 2nd round RB's, it's hard to get paid..While his production says he will just as pick #22 Derrick Henry..But i don't see Chubb as a demanding big money guy either..guess we will see? Ward & Baker sit in the drivers sit between 2 tags..Deal? great! Franchise tag? or 5th year option pay? The positions they both play..May sit as the highest in pay for position played if tagged?..heck, we hope all 3 have to happen.. If KC can do what they got going on? Garrett & Chubb ain't going anywhere..Baker & Ward have their biggest season of their football life on the line...When they see stats in the top 10 at their positions? Than I'll worry..Happy
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Maybe Mack Wilson can talk to the demon sperm voodoo doctor the resident genius on this board educates people with? ?
This coming from the group's Grammar Nazi who gives didactic lectures while misspelling words. It doesn't get any more hilarious than that.
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I believe you may have nailed it. Unfortunately, in today's NFL, you can't keep them all but it's always tough to lose a high character, productive, loyal guy like Joe. It's a coin toss & I worry a bit about Ward's long term durability. Good LBs tend to have long & productive careers, so we'll see. Time will tell
Mike
That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
You're gonna let the best player you had in 30 years walk? Genius.
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That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
You're gonna let the best player you had in 30 years walk? Genius.
You're gonna let the best player you had in 30 years walk? Genius.
When the time comes it will be Baker or Chubb on a second contract with the Browns possibility of neither. I can’t see any chance of both.
Chubb will play out that 4th year and then be franchised and he will get paid and be in another uniform in Year 6
we need to enjoy Kareem Hunt this year too.
there are some tough decisions coming up and we haven’t even done anything yet. We have draft capital and we need to hit on a better percentage with our picks
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He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
I sense Chubb is more about 'winning'.. And if he reads any paper clippings? 2nd round RB's, it's hard to get paid..While his production says he will just as pick #22 Derrick Henry..But i don't see Chubb as a demanding big money guy either..guess we will see? Ward & Baker sit in the drivers sit between 2 tags..Deal? great! Franchise tag? or 5th year option pay? The positions they both play..May sit as the highest in pay for position played if tagged?..heck, we hope all 3 have to happen.. If KC can do what they got going on? Garrett & Chubb ain't going anywhere..Baker & Ward have their biggest season of their football life on the line...When they see stats in the top 10 at their positions? Than I'll worry..Happy
I sense Chubb is more about 'winning'.. And if he reads any paper clippings? 2nd round RB's, it's hard to get paid..While his production says he will just as pick #22 Derrick Henry..But i don't see Chubb as a demanding big money guy either..guess we will see? Ward & Baker sit in the drivers sit between 2 tags..Deal? great! Franchise tag? or 5th year option pay? The positions they both play..May sit as the highest in pay for position played if tagged?..heck, we hope all 3 have to happen.. If KC can do what they got going on? Garrett & Chubb ain't going anywhere..Baker & Ward have their biggest season of their football life on the line...When they see stats in the top 10 at their positions? Than I'll worry..Happy
In regard to Chubb not demanding big money...if he keeps his production up there is a small chance that Chubb doesn’t demand big money- and if he’s doesn’t The players union and his agent will demand/convince that a large contract be in store for him.
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Maybe Mack Wilson can talk to the demon sperm voodoo doctor the resident genius on this board educates people with? ?
This coming from the group's Grammar Nazi who gives didactic lectures while misspelling words. It doesn't get any more hilarious than that.
This coming from the group's Grammar Nazi who gives didactic lectures while misspelling words. It doesn't get any more hilarious than that.
http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55780-trying-to-move-obj/
Oh, but it does get more hilarious than that. This above thread, where practically the entire board piles on to call you a clown, is comedic gold.
Your remark to Gipper on Page 2, where you offer to teach him English, is pretty interesting. Icecube? A GRAMMAR NAZI WHO WOULD LATER MISSPELL WORDS? Whhhhhhhhhaat? ?
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That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
You're gonna let the best player you had in 30 years walk? Genius.
You're gonna let the best player you had in 30 years walk? Genius.
I know that I probably have hurt your fragile ego, which is why you've desperately been trying to bait me into fights for months now, and I know that must really, really burn you up inside.
Problem is, I don't care. Deal with it, snowflake, and move on.
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That being said, I would be really shocked if the Browns end up paying Nick Chubb when he comes up for free agency either. He's probably the most universally liked player on this team by the fans, but paying a ton of money for a RB with four or so years under their belt is probably the least analytics thing ever.
I almost posted as you did, but thought saying it might start a war on the board due to Chubb's popularity. That being said, Chubb just may be one of those backs with long term value.
Mike
I almost posted as you did, but thought saying it might start a war on the board due to Chubb's popularity. That being said, Chubb just may be one of those backs with long term value.
Mike
I'd love for Nick Chubb to retire a Cleveland Brown, Canton Mike. Hell, I dropped $150 for a new Nick Chubb jersey, that should be arriving any year now. (Dammit!)
I can't see a front office so predicated on analytics dropping a ton of guaranteed money and salary cap space on a RB with 4 or 5 years (and 1200-1500 carries) under his belt (depending on if they franchise him) when he gets to free agency. It just doesn't seem to be something they would do, IMO.
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Well "IF" it's season ending surgery for Wilson this would be the season to do just that then rehab and plan on football in 2021.
Meanwhile the BROWNS defensive woes are not improving, time for free agents and a hope and a prayer.
I'm looking forward to the NFL draft in Cleveland in 2021, Woohoo !
MEANWHILE GO BROWNS in 2020.....baby !
I hear ya! There's no substitute for experience just look at the difference in Schobert after humbled beginnings, position change and musical Coordinators. "Flugel will you ever STFU about Schobert?" Yes, welcome to Make-It-Happenville!
The GOOD news is the FO addressed a lot of areas of need this off season; and there's experienced FAs that can help us like Clay Matthews III in particular...
I hear ya! There's no substitute for experience just look at the difference in Schobert after humbled beginnings, position change and musical Coordinators. "Flugel will you ever STFU about Schobert?" Yes, welcome to Make-It-Happenville!
The GOOD news is the FO addressed a lot of areas of need this off season; and there's experienced FAs that can help us like Clay Matthews III in particular...
I don't mean to upset the Apple Cart here.. But I see this team winning 6-8 games if they are lucky... I'm not sold on this defensive philosophy ,LB'ers or Safeties... Everything else on the perimeter seems legit.. Greedy,Ward, D-Line.. etc..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
You're gonna let the best player you had in 30 years walk? Genius.
I know that I probably have hurt your fragile ego, which is why you've desperately been trying to bait me into fights for months now, and I know that must really, really burn you up inside.
Problem is, I don't care. Deal with it, snowflake, and move on.
I know that I probably have hurt your fragile ego, which is why you've desperately been trying to bait me into fights for months now, and I know that must really, really burn you up inside.
Problem is, I don't care. Deal with it, snowflake, and move on.
Transference neurosis much? Not getting enough attention? Do you still talk to mommy everyday?
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This kid worked so hard. I can't believe the season ends like this for him....
Hopefully we'll get some good news soon. Hyperextensions can hurt like a a BEEOTCH, but once the swelling comes down the joints often respond well to therapy. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if he's back in 4-6 weeks.
I hear ya! I'm not getting Jiggy with it either. BUT, Terrell Davis once had to overcome a college career at UGA marred by injury as did another RB from that school (Garrison Hearst overcoming injuries in beginning of his NFL career). Torn ACLs are no longer the career death sentence they once were if that is the injury... Looking forward to the Return of the Mack!!!
I hear ya! I'm not getting Jiggy with it either. BUT, Terrell Davis once had to overcome a college career at UGA marred by injury as did another RB from that school (Garrison Hearst overcoming injuries in beginning of his NFL career). Torn ACLs are no longer the career death sentence they once were if that is the injury... Looking forward to the Return of the Mack!!!
I'm dying laughing because this was my theme song and played at my wedding when me and my groomsmen came out to the reception.
BTW, good news on Kevin Johnson. Released from hospital and listed as week to week. That's EXCELLENT news and means he could literally be back any day. I'm sure he'll miss SOME time, but it doesn't sound like it'll be long. We may even see him week 1.
Still waiting to hear about Mack, but it doesn't sound great. Still, I'm optimistic that he won't be gone for the year. They'll pump him full of anti-inflammatory medication, ice the crap of it, and then strengthen his knee back to normal. I'm guessing 6 weeks and he's back. I feel it.
What REALLY hurts is that we won't have a single linebacker from last year who faced Lamar Jackson. That's not good. That offense is simply devastating and I don't want to think about it right now. Hahahaha
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This coming from the group's Grammar Nazi who gives didactic lectures while misspelling words. It doesn't get any more hilarious than that.
http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55780-trying-to-move-obj/
Oh, but it does get more hilarious than that. This above thread, where practically the entire board piles on to call you a clown, is comedic gold.
Your remark to Gipper on Page 2, where you offer to teach him English, is pretty interesting. Icecube? A GRAMMAR NAZI WHO WOULD LATER MISSPELL WORDS? Whhhhhhhhhaat? ?
http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/55780-trying-to-move-obj/
Oh, but it does get more hilarious than that. This above thread, where practically the entire board piles on to call you a clown, is comedic gold.
Your remark to Gipper on Page 2, where you offer to teach him English, is pretty interesting. Icecube? A GRAMMAR NAZI WHO WOULD LATER MISSPELL WORDS? Whhhhhhhhhaat? ?
Look at all the time and energy you take on such irrelevant nonsense. How much rent do I owe for living in your head? You constantly shout and shout and shout about what a clown I am, and claim everyone is saying it, but it's really pretty much just you. Anyone who corrects punctuation on a message board has some serious self esteem issues. Didn't mommy give you enough attention growing up? Are you angry from being a nerd in high school?
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I sense Chubb is more about 'winning'.. And if he reads any paper clippings? 2nd round RB's, it's hard to get paid..While his production says he will just as pick #22 Derrick Henry..But i don't see Chubb as a demanding big money guy either..guess we will see? Ward & Baker sit in the drivers sit between 2 tags..Deal? great! Franchise tag? or 5th year option pay? The positions they both play..May sit as the highest in pay for position played if tagged?..heck, we hope all 3 have to happen.. If KC can do what they got going on? Garrett & Chubb ain't going anywhere..Baker & Ward have their biggest season of their football life on the line...When they see stats in the top 10 at their positions? Than I'll worry..Happy
In regard to Chubb not demanding big money...if he keeps his production up there is a small chance that Chubb doesn’t demand big money- and if he’s doesn’t The players union and his agent will demand/convince that a large contract be in store for him.
In regard to Chubb not demanding big money...if he keeps his production up there is a small chance that Chubb doesn’t demand big money- and if he’s doesn’t The players union and his agent will demand/convince that a large contract be in store for him.
Derrick Henry just signed a deal that still puts him 2.5M behind La'v Bell total..sitting Henry in 4th..Why would he do that? Has all to do with the team he is on and having a chance while winning..Henry saw hope & it took till his franchise tag price, last season, to see it in full..re-signed, still under L.Bell..Chubb needs to see the same in Cleveland.. right about now ?
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I hear ya! I'm not getting Jiggy with it either. BUT, Terrell Davis once had to overcome a college career at UGA marred by injury as did another RB from that school (Garrison Hearst overcoming injuries in beginning of his NFL career). Torn ACLs are no longer the career death sentence they once were if that is the injury... Looking forward to the Return of the Mack!!!
I'm dying laughing because this was my theme song and played at my wedding when me and my groomsmen came out to the reception.
BTW, good news on Kevin Johnson. Released from hospital and listed as week to week. That's EXCELLENT news and means he could literally be back any day. I'm sure he'll miss SOME time, but it doesn't sound like it'll be long. We may even see him week 1.
Still waiting to hear about Mack, but it doesn't sound great. Still, I'm optimistic that he won't be gone for the year. They'll pump him full of anti-inflammatory medication, ice the crap of it, and then strengthen his knee back to normal. I'm guessing 6 weeks and he's back. I feel it.
What REALLY hurts is that we won't have a single linebacker from last year who faced Lamar Jackson. That's not good. That offense is simply devastating and I don't want to think about it right now. Hahahaha
I'm dying laughing because this was my theme song and played at my wedding when me and my groomsmen came out to the reception.
BTW, good news on Kevin Johnson. Released from hospital and listed as week to week. That's EXCELLENT news and means he could literally be back any day. I'm sure he'll miss SOME time, but it doesn't sound like it'll be long. We may even see him week 1.
Still waiting to hear about Mack, but it doesn't sound great. Still, I'm optimistic that he won't be gone for the year. They'll pump him full of anti-inflammatory medication, ice the crap of it, and then strengthen his knee back to normal. I'm guessing 6 weeks and he's back. I feel it.
What REALLY hurts is that we won't have a single linebacker from last year who faced Lamar Jackson. That's not good. That offense is simply devastating and I don't want to think about it right now. Hahahaha
Jiggins, I don't know if having faced Lamar in the past really matters. His stop and start times are just insanity.
I think Mack will be back in 4-6. As far as I know, nothing was torn, right?
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Nick Chubb is one of those guys that play his position very well and very productively....is a role model to the entire team by his work ethic, devotion to the 'team' concept, while being quiet. And says all of the right things when he does speak.
We don't need no stinking running backs!
It's a bit of a conundrum. RB's are rarely analytics friendly past their original contract now a days. Some teams use the 'rent a back' method. - Hopefully the cards will fall in such a way that he is worthy of and we sign him to a longer term deal because, he's just about everything I would dream of for a team's RB.
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Nick Chubb is one of those guys that play his position very well and very productively....is a role model to the entire team by his work ethic, devotion to the 'team' concept, while being quiet. And says all of the right things when he does speak.
We don't need no stinking running backs!
It's a bit of a conundrum. RB's are rarely analytics friendly past their original contract now a days. Some teams use the 'rent a back' method. - Hopefully the cards will fall in such a way that he is worthy of and we sign him to a longer term deal because, he's just about everything I would dream of for a team's RB.
Nick Chubb is one of those guys that play his position very well and very productively....is a role model to the entire team by his work ethic, devotion to the 'team' concept, while being quiet. And says all of the right things when he does speak.
We don't need no stinking running backs!
It's a bit of a conundrum. RB's are rarely analytics friendly past their original contract now a days. Some teams use the 'rent a back' method. - Hopefully the cards will fall in such a way that he is worthy of and we sign him to a longer term deal because, he's just about everything I would dream of for a team's RB.
For me... its the QB,RB and your best WR... That's what you build your team around..... I would do everything possible to keep Chubb a Brown so long as he remains healthy (Key) Most RB's and LB'er's have a shelf life of 4 yrs on average...... If Baker proves himself this year... I see no reason why they can't co-exist for the immediate time and future ahead... They'll have to get creative..... Make necessary cuts where they are needed without gutting the roster...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Maybe Mack Wilson can talk to the demon sperm voodoo doctor the resident genius on this board educates people with? ?
This coming from the group's Grammar Nazi who gives didactic lectures while misspelling words. It doesn't get any more hilarious than that.
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I'm dying laughing because this was my theme song and played at my wedding when me and my groomsmen came out to the reception.
BTW, good news on Kevin Johnson. Released from hospital and listed as week to week. That's EXCELLENT news and means he could literally be back any day. I'm sure he'll miss SOME time, but it doesn't sound like it'll be long. We may even see him week 1.
Still waiting to hear about Mack, but it doesn't sound great. Still, I'm optimistic that he won't be gone for the year. They'll pump him full of anti-inflammatory medication, ice the crap of it, and then strengthen his knee back to normal. I'm guessing 6 weeks and he's back. I feel it.
What REALLY hurts is that we won't have a single linebacker from last year who faced Lamar Jackson. That's not good. That offense is simply devastating and I don't want to think about it right now. Hahahaha
Jiggins, I don't know if having faced Lamar in the past really matters. His stop and start times are just insanity.
I think Mack will be back in 4-6. As far as I know, nothing was torn, right?
Jiggins, I don't know if having faced Lamar in the past really matters. His stop and start times are just insanity.
I think Mack will be back in 4-6. As far as I know, nothing was torn, right?
Correct, as far as we know, nothing torn. That being said, it was a "severe" hyperextension, and that could easily result in the destruction of all sorts of joint related crap.
And yes, Lamar scares the living shit out of me. Honestly, the Ravens are the ONE team I don't want to play first. Give me anything else week 1, and I'd be happy. But Baltimore? Shit....
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